Another Government Shutdown Thread

[SpaceCoastVol]

Amy Klobuchar Accidentally Proves Obamacare Is a Failure With Her Latest 'Victim' Story

Klobuchar's latest story highlights Obamacare's flaws amid rising healthcare costs.

townhall.com

"Bill and Shelly retired in their early 50s and make $136,000 per year. Social media users scoffed at the notion that we need to give them $15,000 a year in tax credits on top of that.







Obamacare doesn't work. It was never designed to work. It was designed to collapse the system so Democrats could force single-payer socialized medicine down our throats."

People forget that

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[Vol737]

Surprised CNN didn't cut to this screen early in that segment:

 

[lawgator1]

Surprised CNN didn't cut to this screen early in that segment:

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Luckily, as this goes on and Congress continues to get paid, they are holding hearings on The Great Autopen Scandal.

 

[Vol737]

Luckily, as this goes on and Congress continues to get paid, they are holding hearings on The Great Autopen Scandal.

It's silly we would be concerned over aides exercising presidential authority by committee and facilitating executive action without the direct authorization of the POTUS. Three of those aides pleaded the fifth amendment. Are you saying there's absolutely nothing to see here and Biden was fully and cognitively able to give direct authorization to do so? Yes, I hope they would work to get the govt reopened soon.

 

[lawgator1]

Are you saying there's absolutely nothing to see here and Biden was fully and cognitively able to give direct authorization to do so?

Yes.

 

[Vol737]

Yes.

That's fine. I have a different opinion in that Biden looked and behaved in a manner where his cognitive ability was greatly compromised to the extent that he may not have been aware of what was being asked of him, nor what his aides "might" have actually been doing.

 

[volfanhill]

Yes.

Didn't you call for his removal from office bc he was unfit or at least say you were ok with it?

 

[Ashevolle]

I really do not think you're as stupid as your comment here would indicate.

Honestly, impotence is a good look for the Republicans.

 

[volfanhill]

Honestly, impotence is a good look for the Republicans.

Every single republican has voted for a CSR. Hard to blame them if you are honest and not being partisan. Especially since this was the Chuck governed way until now. Kind of gross. You are smarter than this. Be less partisan

 

[volfanhill]

Correct me if I'm wrong here:

One side says lets fund this thing for 6 more weeks and we can negotiate
All of its members support it

The other side says if you don't agree to our demands then we want to shut it down now.


Who isn't really wanting to negotiate? Who is forcing the shutdown? Come on people

 

[lawgator1]

Didn't you call for his removal from office bc he was unfit or at least say you were ok with it?

Yes.

But both can be true.

 

[volfanhill]

Yes.

But both can be true.

So he's mentally acute enough to make decisions on pardons but not to be POTUS? And so mentally incompetent he should be removed?

Lol


I swear just when I think you can't be anymore partisan. Hack

 

[Vol737]

It's silly we would be concerned over aides exercising presidential authority by committee and facilitating executive action without the direct authorization of the POTUS. Three of those aides pleaded the fifth amendment. Are you saying there's absolutely nothing to see here and Biden was fully and cognitively able to give direct authorization to do so? Yes, I hope they would work to get the govt reopened soon.

Yes.

Didn't you call for his removal from office bc he was unfit or at least say you were ok with it?

Yes.

But both can be true.

You're making zero sense, LG. Fully and cognitively able, yet you said he should be removed from office and somehow you think he was acute and aware enough to give direct authorization for others to Autopen executive actions? And you believe he was fully aware of what those executive actions were and said? On ten continents both cannot be true.

 

[volfanhill]

You're making zero sense, LG. Fully and cognitively able, yet you said he should be removed from office and somehow you think he was acute and aware enough to give direct authorization for others to Autopen executive actions? And you believe he was fully aware of what those executive actions were and said? On ten continents both cannot be true.

He is a fraud

 

[GroverCleveland]

Honestly, impotence is a good look for the Republicans.

What does this even mean?

 

[rekinhavoc]

CNN's Hunt: Dems Have Said Shutdowns Shouldn't Be Over Policy, Now Think It's 'Suddenly Right'

On Tuesday's broadcast of CNN's "The Arena," host Kasie Hunt discussed the government shutdown and said that "when Republicans have tried to do something | Clips

www.breitbart.com

"On Tuesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Arena,” host Kasie Hunt discussed the government shutdown and said that “when Republicans have tried to do something like this, Democrats have argued that the norms of our government should be that you negotiate policy outside of a government shutdown.”

While speaking with Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ), Hunt said, “I take your point about these millions of people. The cost of living is incredibly high. But, also, Republicans control the White House, they control the Senate, they control the House. And, in the past, Democrats, when Republicans have tried to do something like this, Democrats have argued that the norms of our government should be that you negotiate policy outside of a government shutdown. I have — over many years, covering Washington, people have said that over and over and over again. And now I have neighbors in the D.C. area who are both employed by the federal government who are having to use food banks. We are heading into Thanksgiving.

Why is it suddenly right to do it this way and to do it for this long, when it didn’t used to be the right way, in Democrats’ view?”

Gallego responded that things are different because of the Trump presidency."

 

[jmacvols1]

Interesting fact I did not know...food stamps began in the 1960's pushed by unions to make it easier for workers to strike long periods of time.
A 1981 law now prohibits striking workers from receiving food stamps.

Of course we already knew Dems use food stamps to buy votes.

 

[CobbVol]

Smaller government and need to break down the concentration of employees to other areas of the country ...

From the article:

Now Trump is using those keys to unlock one of his biggest campaign promises: draining the swamp and taking power back from Washington’s permanent ruling class. Conservatives have always wanted to do this, but thanks to Schumer, it is finally happening.

The federal government is the largest employer in the United States, with more than 2.4 million federal employees, and they are mainly concentrated in the Washington, D.C., area.

These bureaucrats receive nearly double the compensation on average that private sector workers get, and they are overwhelmingly Democrat, making D.C. much bluer than any state in the union. Federal jobs cost taxpayers $384 billion each year, helping to put four of the 10 wealthiest counties in the United States in the D.C. area. And the higher concentration of money and Democrats has only accelerated the bloat.

Schumer's Shutdown Is Empowering Trump To Drain The Swamp

The president’s efforts to shrink the federal workforce have gone into overdrive, and it is all thanks to Democrats in Congress.

thefederalist.com

 

[LouderVol]

@hog88

you have always talked about that Americans won't revolt as long as they can get their beer and internet. if the food goes, we could see things actually get "interesting".

I hope someone caves before then, because food riots will be worse than any fuel shortages or TP issues we have dealt with.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You're making zero sense, LG. Fully and cognitively able, yet you said he should be removed from office and somehow you think he was acute and aware enough to give direct authorization for others to Autopen executive actions? And you believe he was fully aware of what those executive actions were and said? On ten continents both cannot be true.

TDS removes even lawyer logic

 

[hog88]

@hog88

you have always talked about that Americans won't revolt as long as they can get their beer and internet. if the food goes, we could see things actually get "interesting".

I hope someone caves before then, because food riots will be worse than any fuel shortages or TP issues we have dealt with.

LOL The people getting food stamps aren't the people who will revolt. The majority of them don't have the gumption to work enough to feed their families so what makes you think they have the stones to revolt.

 

[theFallGuy]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5577883-senate-democrats-government-shutdown-pressure/

 

[LouderVol]

LOL The people getting food stamps aren't the people who will revolt. The majority of them don't have the gumption to work enough to feed their families so what makes you think they have the stones to revolt.

it won't be revolt to overthrow the government. it will be a revolt to turn the grift back on. or the widespread looting to make sure they stay fed.

 

[hog88]

it won't be revolt to overthrow the government. it will be a revolt to turn the grift back on. or the widespread looting to make sure they stay fed.

I could see some looting but it wouldn't be just food they would be stealing.