4 Straight Losses to Ark

#26
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UTFranklinVol said:
if we let this Arkansas team hang around us at home we are truly awful. we should be winning this game by 21+ points and Aguilar should be done by the 4th quarter.

IMO anything short of that is an immense failure of coaching.

I see us starting super hot (like we did against Georgia) except Arkansas doesn't have the ability to come back on us like Georgia.

I think it's 35-10 at the half, 49-17 at the end of the 3rd, final score 52-27. we give up 10 in the 4th quarter with our 2nd and 3rd string in.
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I just haven’t seen the defense yet —- to expect 30 pt beat downs of SEC opponents.
 
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Mason said:
Petrino is still one of the best Offensive minds in college football, i am concerned about this game but a Die Hard VOL so VOLs by Fitty!
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Arkansas has had petrino all year and what good has it done. the players gotta play and they ain't playing. I'm not worried about that at all.
 
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Clad in Big Orange said:
I won't expect a blowout over any SEC foe until the Vols can stop being their own worst enemy. It's kinda becoming a Heupel trademark that the Vols will underperform whenever there appears to be a mismatch on paper (conference games).
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Only two SEC games so far this year, so not really enough to go on yet. Last year, though, 4 of our 6 wins were by double digits with Alabama and Florida the only single score wins. In 2023, 2 of our 4 conference wins were by double digits. That year, we beat Vandy by 24 and South Carolina by 21. The only team we really outclassed in SEC play that was a close game was Kentucky on the road. We were probably better than Florida but that was in the swamp and we know how those games typically go.
 
#31
#31
if we are worried about not playing well against Arkansas we should just call off the rest of the year now. this is probably the second-easiest SEC opponent on our schedule next to Kentucky. and the game is AT HOME. This should be a VERY easy win for a team that plans on making the CFP.
 
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OmahaOmaha said:
Spread is 13 for a reason...
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That's my point.. That's not very high considering how bad Arkansas is and with an interim coach. ..It was 14 last year in Fayetteville when we caught an L too. Our fans are definitely the best at overlooking teams. All I heard last week was how we were going to dog walk Miss St. We lose that game without our 2 Defensive TD's. Then A'M beats the brakes off them and completely shuts down the offense that put up 34 on us. And yeah I know, home game vs away game..blah blah.. ANYBODY that knows football knows exactly what a trap/ look ahead game is. If this isn't one, then there never has been one. Point being, we can't get caught looking ahead to a team with nothing to lose.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I still don’t know how we lost the 2015 game. Just an absolute master class in dumb **** by Butch and Jancek. Lost 3 games that year when we were more than an 80% favorite in the fourth quarter.
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I may have been the only Tennessee fan that year to realize Jones was not going to be the coach to get us (there). The 2016 collapse proved me.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
if we are worried about not playing well against Arkansas we should just call off the rest of the year now. this is probably the second-easiest SEC opponent on our schedule next to Kentucky. and the game is AT HOME. This should be a VERY easy win for a team that plans on making the CFP.
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It's called 18-24 year olds..Happens every year to EVERY team. Look at Penn St, they got caught not being focused after losing a heartbreaker to Oregon. Last year, we played Arkansas before back to back games against Fla and Ala.. If anybody believes they were focused on Arkansas last year at a 14 pt favorite, y'all are crazy Everyone wants to blame Nico last year, he was far from the only problem. Our D gave up 300 passing yards and 140+ rushing yards. Not to mention penalties killed us too. While I love to blame Nico for **** like most of our fans, he was far from the only reason we lost.
 
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YankeeVol said:
'11 was a terrible team, 1-7 in the SEC.
'15 was actually a decent enough team, and the loss was at home.
'20 was another terrible team.

Last year, well Nico.
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That wasn't all on Nico. Our D gave up 440 yards and we had 10 penalties. Gave up almost 300 passing yards. Nico was part of the problem, but far from the only one.
 
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What if…

An Arkansas player at full speed is knocked out of bounds and bowls over Petrino?

Arkansas has several turnovers?

Arkansas accumulates 150+ yards in penalties?

In an argument, a livid Petrino lays hands on an official and is ejected?

Meanwhile, the Vols score on their first seven possessions?

Think positive thoughts….
 
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This team hasn't seemed to play very well coming out of a bye under CJH. I'm not expecting anything. Arkansas will come in with ZERO to lose and all the pressure will be on us. Not a good recipe under this staff.
 
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YankeeVol said:
'11 was a terrible team, 1-7 in the SEC.
'15 was actually a decent enough team, and the loss was at home.
'20 was another terrible team.

Last year, well Nico.
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2020 Arkansas was 3-7, so they were equally as bad as us. We were also 3-7.

2015 We still had the better record and it was in Neyland. No excuse losing that home game.

Now 2011 I'll give you, they were 11-2 and we were 5-7.

Then last year we were 10-3 and they were 7-6.

So really our only excusable loss was in 2011.

And no we have no business losing this year, but trap games can be dangerous if you let them be. That's my point on this.
 
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jeff1vol said:
This team hasn't seemed to play very well coming out of a bye under CJH. I'm not expecting anything. Arkansas will come in with ZERO to lose and all the pressure will be on us. Not a good recipe under this staff.
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Thank you! That was my whole point. If we weren't playing Ala next week I wouldn't be worried about looking ahead, but unfortunately we do. And Ark has a good QB that threw all over us last year and last years secondary is way better than our current one. Now if McCoy plays this weekend, then that changes the secondary talk But our D has been giving up chunk plays in the air and on the ground, which can be worrisome against a good QB, a team with nothing to lose and looking ahead. I say we win by 14-17, definitely not the 40 or 50 others think. And I hope to hell I'm wrong. I can see a 42-28 or 45-28 type game.
 
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37620VOL said:
We play very differently at home. I don't see us losing this one. I really want to see our defense play to its potential.
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I think we saw some glimpses against State. It was like Jekyll and Hyde: we gave up so many yards and opportunities, but they also scored two defensive touchdowns and closed it down with a great 4 down stop at the goal line.
 
#42
#42
jasonvol18 said:
I honestly didn't even realize this. We've lost 4 straight in this series, not sure how that's even possible.

Not gonna lie, this could definitely be a trap game with Ala up the following weekend. And no, I'm not saying we lose. I don't see a 4 TD blowout either. A desperate Arkansas team and a possible look ahead game for us is never a great recipe. I'm saying we win in the 14-17 pt range.
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Why we should be concerned - Arkansas averages 213 yards a game rushing and converts almost 60% of their 3rd downs.
Why we shouldn't be concerned - Arkansas has the worst defense in the SEC giving up 30 points and 425 yards a game.
Petrino has their offense tuned up, but that defense is as porous as a screen door
Vols in a bit of a shootout 48-35 GBO!
 
#43
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jasonvol18 said:
It's called 18-24 year olds..Happens every year to EVERY team. Look at Penn St, they got caught not being focused after losing a heartbreaker to Oregon. Last year, we played Arkansas before back to back games against Fla and Ala.. If anybody believes they were focused on Arkansas last year at a 14 pt favorite, y'all are crazy Everyone wants to blame Nico last year, he was far from the only problem. Our D gave up 300 passing yards and 140+ rushing yards. Not to mention penalties killed us too. While I love to blame Nico for **** like most of our fans, he was far from the only reason we lost.
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last year's game was on the road. Huepel has a bad problem losing road games but we don't lose many home games under heupel. with the crowd and a QB that is a FAR better leader than Nico, I expect this to be an easy win

again if it's not that's 1000% on piss poor coaching. this is as close to a gimme win in the SEC as it gets.

I would almost say the Kentucky game is harder because it will be on the road. which means it literally doesn't get any easier than this game in the SEC.
 
#46
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YankeeVol said:
'11 was a terrible team, 1-7 in the SEC.
'15 was actually a decent enough team, and the loss was at home.
'20 was another terrible team.

Last year, well Nico.
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Nico…. And coaching. It’s time we put some blame where it belongs. We continually play undisciplined, uninspired, unprepared football on the road.
 
#47
#47
jasonvol18 said:
That's my point.. That's not very high considering how bad Arkansas is and with an interim coach. ..It was 14 last year in Fayetteville when we caught an L too. Our fans are definitely the best at overlooking teams. All I heard last week was how we were going to dog walk Miss St. We lose that game without our 2 Defensive TD's. Then A'M beats the brakes off them and completely shuts down the offense that put up 34 on us. And yeah I know, home game vs away game..blah blah.. ANYBODY that knows football knows exactly what a trap/ look ahead game is. If this isn't one, then there never has been one. Point being, we can't get caught looking ahead to a team with nothing to lose.
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Well, to be fair, the Mississippi State game wasn't just close due to home/away. If you are going to say we lose that game without the two defensive scores, you should also acknowledge that we win by 14 if Matthews catches the gimme TD and the refs don't call that BS offensive PI. That's WITH having a muffed punt and two tipped Ints that gave them starting field positions inside our 30 yard line for all three drives. If we don't make all those critical mistakes and the Brazzell TD counts, we win that game by four TDs. Also, their game with A&M was close until it got into the fourth quarter. State completely fell apart down the stretch.
 
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deatojl said:
Well, to be fair, the Mississippi State game wasn't just close due to home/away. If you are going to say we lose that game without the two defensive scores, you should also acknowledge that we win by 14 if Matthews catches the gimme TD and the refs don't call that BS offensive PI. That's WITH having a muffed punt and two tipped Ints that gave them starting field positions inside our 30 yard line for all three drives. If we don't make all those critical mistakes and the Brazzell TD counts, we win that game by four TDs. Also, their game with A&M was close until it got into the fourth quarter. State completely fell apart down the stretch.
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this. the MSU game should have been a walk away victory. but our receivers missed easy catches or worse they bobbled the catch and caused an INT. couple that with bad officiating and we should have won easily.
 
#49
#49
jasonvol18 said:
Thank you! That was my whole point. If we weren't playing Ala next week I wouldn't be worried about looking ahead, but unfortunately we do. And Ark has a good QB that threw all over us last year and last years secondary is way better than our current one. Now if McCoy plays this weekend, then that changes the secondary talk But our D has been giving up chunk plays in the air and on the ground, which can be worrisome against a good QB, a team with nothing to lose and looking ahead. I say we win by 14-17, definitely not the 40 or 50 others think. And I hope to hell I'm wrong. I can see a 42-28 or 45-28 type game.
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I would be more inclined to agree with this being a trap game if we hadn't lost to them last year. This is a revenge game. Taylen Green did throw for 266 against us last year but they only scored 19 points and the last 7 was because we let them score in order to get the ball back rather than them running the clock down and kicking a game winning field goal.
 
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