Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

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#43,078
mrMet said:
How do you know they didn’t tell him to fire him and Vrabel said no? Mularky style. How do you know it wasn’t Vrabel’s style of practice that caused all those injuries year after year?

To be clear, I’m not placing ALL the blame on Vrabel, I’m asking you how do you know/so confident?

From what I remember, Vrabel interviewed for one team in the offseason before being an assistant for the Browns. Why did other openings not want him?

You act like the teams we had 2019-2021 were ass and Vrabel just coached them up himself lol. Derrick Henry himself said on Bussin with the Boys how good those teams were. Studs everywhere
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He wanted full control over his own roster. The Patriots gave it to him. He could have had a job if all he wanted was a job. After the Titans bungled his roster, he wanted to make sure the same thing didn't happen again.
 
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orangejuice said:
I think it’s funny that we lost to UGA due to a missed FG, and the media seems to act like we are just a mid level SEC team, but I keep seeing how good Vandy is and since they played well against Bama, I’ve seen some say they wouldn’t be surprised if they flirt with the playoffs. It’s wild how excited the media has gotten about Vandy.
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Bingo


Vandy scored a whopping 14 points, 7 on the very first drive of the game…then it was crickets offensively.
 
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It sounds like things are even worse inside the UNC program than I imagined. An insider with access to the program posted this on the myriad of things wrong on the UNC 247 site.


Attention to Detail
This is Bill's calling card, right? Well, so far this season, especially during the bye week, that attention to detail with scheduling and communication hasn't been there. Players and support staff are often notified of practice time and location only mere hours before they happen. From the top down, communication within the KFC has been abysmal this year, leading to a disconnect throughout many parts of the program. It may seem insignificant, but it goes to a bigger issue of disconnect within the program.

Nepotism
A little less so for the Belichick brothers, but QB Coach Lombardi is a nepo baby, and that's all I'll say. Does very little coaching and spends practice goofing around. Classic CEO's son.

Valuing Players
This may be the most controversial, but from what I've gathered, and based on my own experiences, it is obvious that the treatment and valuation of the players as human beings has deteriorated from the previous regime. There's a difference between being demanding and being an a-hole, and Bill leans toward the latter. Many players genuinely don't like the man, and when you're losing, that doesn't bode well for future recruits. To have respect and trust for a coaching staff, players must feel valued and like important parts of the team. It's painfully obvious that there is no respect for this coaching staff based on the lack of effort and energy seen today. Largely, this team has quit on this coaching staff, and we are 5 games in.

Halftime Lockerroom
Tale of 2 different sides in the halftime locker room today. On the defensive side, Bob Diaco was cussing them out and telling players to leave if the effort didn't pick up. On the Offensive Side, Freddie Kitchens was telling the offense "everything was going to be okay" and that they could win the game "one play at a time." In response to that, a very prominent sophomore WR called him out to his face and told him that "we need more energy than that coach." Players recognize that the coaching they're receiving is subpar, and frustration is growing.
 
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RandomUTfan said:
He wanted full control over his own roster. The Patriots gave it to him. He could have had a job if all he wanted was a job. After the Titans bungled his roster, he wanted to make sure the same thing didn't happen again.
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Hardly any coach ever gets full control. We will see if it works out for him

Still doesn’t excuse hiring Todd Downing
 
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mrMet said:
How do you know they didn’t tell him to fire him and Vrabel said no? Mularky style. How do you know it wasn’t Vrabel’s style of practice that caused all those injuries year after year?

To be clear, I’m not placing ALL the blame on Vrabel, I’m asking you how do you know/so confident?

From what I remember, Vrabel interviewed for one team in the offseason before being an assistant for the Browns. Why did other openings not want him?

You act like the teams we had 2019-2021 were ass and Vrabel just coached them up himself lol. Derrick Henry himself said on Bussin with the Boys how good those teams were. Studs everywhere
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We almost made the super bowl with Ryan Tannehill, running the ball and defense. In an era where that doesn't work. I just think of how tough the team was, how he out coached people during the game. He's a proven winner. We just live in a time now where you can't afford to lose as a coach. You can literally go to the final 4, win a super bowl, world series, national title and be fired for one bad season. Its ludicrous.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
We almost made the super bowl with Ryan Tannehill, running the ball and defense. In an era where that doesn't work. I just think of how tough the team was, how he out coached people during the game. He's a proven winner. We just live in a time now where you can't afford to lose as a coach. You can literally go to the final 4, win a super bowl, world series, national title and be fired for one bad season. Its ludicrous.
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I've seen a lot of football and a lot of good and bad coaches. I think the biggest mark of how good a coach is is how hard do their guys play for them? What do the players have to say about him? Vrabel's teams always seem to play hard for him. See it with the Patriots now. They aren't the most talented team in the NFL, but yesterday they did beat one of them.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
We almost made the super bowl with Ryan Tannehill, running the ball and defense. In an era where that doesn't work. I just think of how tough the team was, how he out coached people during the game. He's a proven winner. We just live in a time now where you can't afford to lose as a coach. You can literally go to the final 4, win a super bowl, world series, national title and be fired for one bad season. Its ludicrous.
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Ryan Tannehill was awesome in the 2.5 year run dude. How do you not remember that lol

You also forget Dean Pees left as DC because Vrabel wanted to take over the defense in the middle of the playoffs

He also had 2 bad seasons in a row. Started 7-3 and ended 7-10 in one of those seasons. If he was this superb elite coach, I guarantee he gets one single win out of 7 games.

Vrabel deserves plenty of blame just like many others in the organization do. He’s a solid coach but not his king he’s been made out to be
 
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