Israel vs Palestinians II

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NashVol11 said:
Subject to the conditions (seems like conditions outlined in Trump's plan, but I may be misunderstanding) being met, Hamas agrees to release all hostages

www.nbcnews.com

Hamas agrees to release all Israeli hostages, pending conditions, after Trump's Gaza peace proposal

Trump welcomed the Hamas statement and said that Israel “must immediately stop” bombing the Gaza Strip in order to get the hostages out safely.
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A billion VN bucks says they renege. They'll kill more and blame the IDF.

They want peace as much as I want AOC to be president
 
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Smokey123 said:
Over a million arrested, birth rates plummeted through forced birth control, GPS trackers on their cars, government working living in the homes of Uyghurs to make sure they’re abiding culturally, forcibly taking away children and brainwashing them. Really sick and twisted stuff
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And you don’t hear ANYONE calling for a boycott of China.
Meanwhile, Israel kills a tiny fraction of that number (collaterally during a war); and the leftists go cray cray calling to boycott anything and anyone from Israel.
And then claim not be be antisemitic 🙄
 
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OrangeTsar said:
And you don’t hear ANYONE calling for a boycott of China.
Meanwhile, Israel kills a tiny fraction of that number (collaterally during a war); and the leftists go cray cray calling to boycott anything and anyone from Israel.
And then claim not be be antisemitic 🙄
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That’s not really true. Multiple countries boycotted the 22 Olympics over it, human right groups have called for boycotts, countries put sanctions on them specifically for it. But yes it’s not nearly as large and wide spread as for Israel
 
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NashVol11 said:
That's stupid, go back to spamming 30 posts in a row about how you can't wait to watch NYC burn or whatever. Israel is always going out of its way to be the victims in every situation
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The irony is the U.S historically are the biggest bullies in existence. Using other countries like Israel to do their dirty work no matter how filthy and immoral, all in the name of profits. Then use propaganda to brainwash everyone into thinking we are the good guys. It’s vile and once you see it you can’t unsee it
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
The irony is the U.S historically are the biggest bullies in existence. Using other countries like Israel to do their dirty work no matter how filthy and immoral, all in the name of profits. Then use propaganda to brainwash everyone into thinking we are the good guys. It’s vile and once you see it you can’t unsee it
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We may not be the absolute “good guys”. But I would posit that we are at least “the best guys”.

And as far as using Israel to do our “dirty work”; I would say that if we were looking for a nation in the Middle East; it wouldn’t be Israel. It would be the most friendly Arab state. Saudi Arabia is heading in that direction.

And as far as using being “historically the worst bully”; I would recommend a few books on Ancient Rome.

Thanks 😀
 
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OrangeTsar said:
We may not be the absolute “good guys”. But I would posit that we are at least “the best guys”.

And as far as using Israel to do our “dirty work”; I would say that if we were looking for a nation in the Middle East; it wouldn’t be Israel. It would be the most friendly Arab state. Saudi Arabia is heading in that direction.

And as far as using being “historically the worst bully”; I would recommend a few books on Ancient Rome.

Thanks 😀
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Israel is the U.S.’s most reliable partner in the Middle East. They’re powerful, stable, and share America’s political and military interests. Most other countries in the region are either unstable, hostile, or can’t be trusted to act in ways that align with U.S. goals. Israel, on the other hand, is militarily strong, highly advanced, and willing to handle conflicts the U.S. doesn’t want to get directly involved in. Plenty of reasons they’re chosen and funded no matter how immoral.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Israel is the U.S.’s most reliable partner in the Middle East. They’re powerful, stable, and share America’s political and military interests. Most other countries in the region are either unstable, hostile, or can’t be trusted to act in ways that align with U.S. goals. Israel, on the other hand, is militarily strong, highly advanced, and willing to handle conflicts the U.S. doesn’t want to get directly involved in. Plenty of reasons they’re chosen and funded no matter how immoral.
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Doesn't this create an inconsistentcy in your point? Here's what I read (in bullet form)
- Israel is powerful with strong military.
- Surrounding countries are unstable and hostile.
- Funding from America is anbsolute no matter how immoral their actions.

With those being true, wouldn't it be reasonable Israel would invade, eradicate, and overtake enemies? And if they do not, wouldn't that mean there is some level of morality guiding their restraint?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
We may not be the absolute “good guys”. But I would posit that we are at least “the best guys”.

And as far as using Israel to do our “dirty work”; I would say that if we were looking for a nation in the Middle East; it wouldn’t be Israel. It would be the most friendly Arab state. Saudi Arabia is heading in that direction.

And as far as using being “historically the worst bully”; I would recommend a few books on Ancient Rome.

Thanks 😀
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Saudi like Qatar plays both sides and isn’t rlly aggressive. They wouldn’t be able to fill that role
 
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McDad said:
Doesn't this create an inconsistentcy in your point? Here's what I read (in bullet form)
- Israel is powerful with strong military.
- Surrounding countries are unstable and hostile.
- Funding from America is anbsolute no matter how immoral their actions.

With those being true, wouldn't it be reasonable Israel would invade, eradicate, and overtake enemies? And if they do not, wouldn't that mean there is some level of morality guiding their restraint?
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That’s a fair observation, but I don’t think their restraint is moral. It’s strategic. They know total invasion or eradication would destabilize the region even more, draw global condemnation, and potentially jeopardize U.S. backing. Their actions are limited by political calculus, not empathy. So I’d argue it’s not morality guiding restraint it’s consequence management
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
That’s a fair observation, but I don’t think their restraint is moral. It’s strategic. They know total invasion or eradication would destabilize the region even more, draw global condemnation, and potentially jeopardize U.S. backing. Their actions are limited by political calculus, not empathy. So I’d argue it’s not morality guiding restraint it’s consequence management
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I'm trying to follow.
Earlier you used the word "stable" to describe Israel. If they were to invade, eradicate, and overtake surrounding countries, why would the region be less stable?

Second confusion, if Israel is funded no matter how immoral why would the aforementioned action jeopardize US backing?
 
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McDad said:
I'm trying to follow.
Earlier you used the word "stable" to describe Israel. If they were to invade, eradicate, and overtake surrounding countries, why would the region be less stable?

Second confusion, if Israel is funded no matter how immoral why would the aforementioned action jeopardize US backing?
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Good questions when I say stable, I mean internally. Israel’s government, economy, and military operate consistently and effectively compared to neighboring states. But regional stability is a different thing. If they started full scale invasions, it would destabilize the region, inflame neighboring powers, disrupt trade routes, spike oil prices, and risk pulling in other nations. So they’d lose stability around them even if they stayed stable within their borders.





As for U.S. support it’s not unconditional in practice, even if it looks that way publicly. Washington backs Israel because it’s useful, not because it’s moral. If Israel’s actions ever sparked a global crisis or hurt U.S. interests ( by alienating allies or triggering an oil shock), that unshakable support would get politically expensive for America. So Israel has to play the line carefully push limits, but not blow up the entire board either
 
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They know they can say anything and their useful idiot cult members believe every word.


Useful idiot cult member finds meaning and acceptance. 👇
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