President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[volfanhill]

Feel free to cite the Obama or Biden admins violating the Hatch Act.

I'll make while we wait.

Several Obama officials were criticized for it.
Name a US citizen Trump assasinated

 

[allstar34bd]

If you give Health Care to the poor, give it to the middle class as well.
What's the difference between poor and middle class these days anyways... Undocumented Immigrants shouldn't have rights that a US Citizen isn't benefiting from as well.

 

[KB5252]

Of course the internet made it happen

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I loved that dude, he was hilarious. I discovered him as a young man on A&E's evening at the improv (man that was a great show) and I was hooked.

 

[85SugarVol]

Media stopped covering it once it was a lib.

Media manipulation is what LG lives for.

So an apparently Leftist shooter targeted an ICE facility, presumably to kill ICE agents, and all he did was kill 2 illegal alien detainees?

That’s kinda wild. I hadn’t heard anything about it.

 

[swampfoxfan]

If you give Health Care to the poor, give it to the middle class as well.
What's the difference between poor and middle class these days anyways... Undocumented Immigrants shouldn't have rights that a US Citizen isn't benefiting from as well.

I agree. Provide health care for everyone living in the United States.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Actually that wouldn't be too far off. I can think of at least 3 or 4 posters here who would **** a cadaver if no one was lookin'.

I’d like to see who’s on your list

 

[whodeycin85]

LOL. Do you have any idea what he does for a living?

Let me guess: I'm clueless too?

Yes because he was a hospital corpsman 50 years ago before senility took over.

 

[rekinhavoc]

This seems good.

 

[Majors]

So an apparently Leftist shooter targeted an ICE facility, presumably to kill ICE agents, and all he did was kill 2 illegal alien detainees?

That’s kinda wild. I hadn’t heard anything about it.

Yes, media cut it off when that part came out. LG went silent too on it.

 

[lawgator1]

Yes, media cut it off when that part came out. LG went silent too on it.

No I didn't. I pointed out that two of the victims of political violence were illegal immigrants and Trump didn't honor them like he did Kirk, portraying one as unacceptable, speaking at the funeral, but just shrugging off the other.

 

[Majors]

No I didn't. I pointed out that two of the victims of political violence were illegal immigrants and Trump didn't honor them like he did Kirk, portraying one as unacceptable, speaking at the funeral, but just shrugging off the other.

Yes, you didn’t chirp once it was known the shooter was a left ideology crazy. The funeral part was you trolling. The silence was the MSM not feeding your agenda.

 

[lawgator1]

Yes, you didn’t chirp once it was known the shooter was a left ideology crazy. The funeral part was you trolling. The silence was the MSM not feeding your agenda.

No, I said that political violence by either side is completely awful and to be condemned.

But the illegals were just as much victims of it as Kirk, regardless of the subjective motivation of the shooter.

You and Trump jump up and down and decry political violence from the left, but minimize it from the right. Even worse, you value one life over the other depending on the politics of the victim.

 

[Sandman 423]

I agree. Provide health care for everyone living in the United States.

People pay into Medicare and SS for 50+ years yet the programs can afford very small amounts when it is time to drawal. How the hell do you think they could afford Medicare for all?

 

[luthervol]

You’re cherry picking. How many times has Trump been called racist, a Nazi or whatever? Both sides say plenty of inflammatory things so trying to say one side is worse is silly. 2 sides, same coin.

The only thing sillier would be to claim that both sides do it equally.

As soon as the conclusion becomes "both sides are equally guilty" the motivation to be better than the other side disappears.
Which is exactly what the side most guilty wants.

Everybody lies......but everybody does not lie equally.
Continuums.
It's what separates us from the apes.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yes because he was a hospital corpsman 50 years ago before senility took over.

Lots of uninsured patients in military hospitals, I'm sure. It would make one an expert on the effects of uninsured patients.

 

[Majors]

No, I said that political violence by either side is completely awful and to be condemned.

But the illegals were just as much victims of it as Kirk, regardless of the subjective motivation of the shooter.

You and Trump jump up and down and decry political violence from the left, but minimize it from the right. Even worse, you value one life over the other depending on the politics of the victim.

You trolling about Trump attending a funeral for two illegals isn’t your best work. Kirk was an an American killed over free speech, two illegals were criminals. Had the guy missed your spin would be different.

Your post crave political violence, it’s part of your gig. Silent for a decade but somehow finding peace now that the left has been exposed as the bad guys.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The only thing sillier would be to claim that both sides do it equally.

As soon as the conclusion becomes "both sides are equally guilty" the motivation to be better than the other side disappears.
Which is exactly what the side most guilty wants.

Everybody lies......but everybody does not lie equally.
Continuums.
It's what separates us from the apes.

A lot more than silly excuses for your preferred political elites separates us from the apes. You'd be able to say that raping, killing and eating babies is actually, always wrong if you realized that because, you'd see them as inherently, objectively valuable and not just bald ape meat when push comes to shove. You'd be able to give rational answersas to why they need to be saved in hospitals, why slavery was wrong, and why society has a moral obligation to give the fruits of their labor to people who didn't work for it.

Otherwise, we can all just roll our eyes and say:

Until you realize that, your moral posturing and condescension here is meaningless, self-defeating, and unabashed arrogance. Why should we care about the personal opinions of a self-professed bald ape that somehow escaped the jungle and has no basis to believe he's any more rational than the rest of the apes that didn't escape the jungle?

I'll not have the debate in this thread.
But as a show of good faith, I'll answer 1a.
Humans are primates who evolved over time.
At least that's the most plausible current explanation.

You can provide your answer and advance the conversation in a new thread of your creation if you wish.
If not, I'm good with that also.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Eh, they all do this crap. Whoever is in charge blames the others.

No. They dont. I've NEVER seen an email or notice blaming a political party for anything. 26 years as a fed. 100% hatch act violation.

The Trump administration is completely insane. They've also shuttered funds to a dozen inspector generals. Why? Because they provide independent oversight and avenues for whistle blowers for the government. Take a step back and look what's going on. Federal troops in American cities patrolling. Goverment oversight functions shut down. For people who hate government the Republicns are stroking each other over what looks like a total government takeover. Most of yall are no better than the loony dims. Different agenda items but still yearn for government control of your life.

"Its ok when my guys doing it"..

 

[luthervol]

A lot more than silly excuses for your preferred political elites separates us from the apes. You'd be able to say that raping, killing and eating babies is actually, always wrong if you realized that because, you'd see them as inherently, objectively valuable and not just bald ape meat when push comes to shove. You'd be able to give rational answersas to why they need to be saved in hospitals, why slavery was wrong, and why society has a moral obligation to give the fruits of their labor to people who didn't work for it.

Otherwise, we can all just roll our eyes and say:

Until you realize that, your moral posturing and condescension here is meaningless, self-defeating, and unabashed arrogance. Why should we care about the personal opinions of a self-professed bald ape that somehow escaped the jungle and has no basis to believe he's any more rational than the rest of the apes that didn't escape the jungle?

yawn

 

[hUTch2002]

The only thing sillier would be to claim that both sides do it equally.

As soon as the conclusion becomes "both sides are equally guilty" the motivation to be better than the other side disappears.
Which is exactly what the side most guilty wants.

Everybody lies......but everybody does not lie equally.
Continuums.
It's what separates us from the apes.

Guess what though? You thinking “your side” does it less is nothing more than your opinion. Biden lied every single time his mouth moved.

 

[hUTch2002]

No. They dont. I've NEVER seen an email or notice blaming a political party for anything. 26 years as a fed. 100% hatch act violation.

The Trump administration is completely insane. They've also shuttered funds to a dozen inspector generals. Why? Because they provide independent oversight and avenues for whistle blowers for the government. Take a step back and look what's going on. Federal troops in American cities patrolling. Goverment oversight functions shut down. For people who hate government the Republicns are stroking each other over what looks like a total government takeover. Most of yall are no better than the loony dims. Different agenda items but still yearn for government control of your life.

"Its ok when my guys doing it"..

Ok so it’s in an email instead of saying it or implying it. That Hatch violation thing might not be a slam dunk based just on the email. It doesn’t mention anyone specific. If it is a violation then, by all means, punish according to the law. Zero issue with that. They both do the similar things in about every way and people get all in a tizzy when the other side does it. See Luther.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Trumps complaining China isn't buying US soybeans due to tarriffs. Soybean farmers being hurt. He loves farmers. Going to take tarriff money (taxes we paid) and give it to the farmers (welfare check). So let me get this straight..country called your bluff so you try to spin it on them being bad and your fix is to create a bigger welfare state with American taxpayer dollars? Doing democrats work for them. What a buffoon.

 

[Orange_Crush]

yawn

I seriously love that answer every time because it's the exact answer every one of your moral high ground posts deserves. lol

You attack Trump for doing ... whatever your daily hissy fit will be? Yawn.

You browbeat conservatives because they don't share your opinion about rounding up illegals. Yawn. Why should our clan of hairless apes let another clan of hairless apes invade our resources?

You try to cop out of these hard questions with answers like, "I'll let anyone here say that we should refuse medical care to poor baby illegal apes." Yawn. I'll say it. Why should I, as a hard-working ape, give the fruit of my labor to save the baby ape of some other ape? Let it die and I'll pass my genetics along to take its ape-place.

You are in that big old yawn corner until you can come up with some better moral prod than "My ape-opinion is better than your ape-opinion".

I'll not have the debate in this thread.
But as a show of good faith, I'll answer 1a.
Humans are primates who evolved over time.
At least that's the most plausible current explanation.

You can provide your answer and advance the conversation in a new thread of your creation if you wish.
If not, I'm good with that also.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Ok so it’s in an email instead of saying it or implying it. That Hatch violation thing might not be a slam dunk based just on the email. It doesn’t mention anyone specific. If it is a violation then, by all means, punish according to the law. Zero issue with that. They both do the similar things in about every way and people get all in a tizzy when the other side does it. See Luther.

The parties do it but the Federal work force is beholden to the constitution, not a political party. I've been through lots of shut downs and the messaging had NEVER blamed anyone but only mentioned congress needed to pass funding. What's going on is a hatch act violation. With the Trump administration there seems to be a feeling the law doesnt apply to them and its odd to see the right soooo quiet. Again it goes back to "its ok if my guys doing it" and that's a problem in this country.

 

[FLVOL69]

No. They dont. I've NEVER seen an email or notice blaming a political party for anything. 26 years as a fed. 100% hatch act violation.

The Trump administration is completely insane. They've also shuttered funds to a dozen inspector generals. Why? Because they provide independent oversight and avenues for whistle blowers for the government. Take a step back and look what's going on. Federal troops in American cities patrolling. Goverment oversight functions shut down. For people who hate government the Republicns are stroking each other over what looks like a total government takeover. Most of yall are no better than the loony dims. Different agenda items but still yearn for government control of your life.

"Its ok when my guys doing it"..

The best is yet to come brother, IG's who are corrupted need to be removed and as far as the NG goes Trump is simply preparing for the inevitable carnage the left thrives on when they don't get their way. I fully expect the shlt to hit the fan once more prominent dems are indicted which is coming and this administration will be prepared. Insurrection act is highly possible and what about the emails between the Strzok and Page? He'll never be president and they could smell the Trump supporters in Walmart? I've been patient however it looks like there's finally going to be some kind of accountability. Sit back and enjoy the show!