President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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Why wouldn't they charge him then??

It should be easy to prove if any of those bribes got contacts from him??

Until they can provide why or info to either question it's a moot point? Without proof as usual
 
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volfanhill said:
It looks like conspiracy to comit bribery


"Homan was soliciting payments in exchange for awarding contracts should Trump win the presidential election, according to an internal Justice Department summary of the probe"

Homan often accompanied Trump on the campaign trail in 2023 and 2024, and for months before the presidential election publicly touted that he expected to oversee implementation of Trump’s immigration policies.

“Trump comes back in January, I’ll be on his heels coming back, and I will run the biggest deportation operation this country’s ever seen,” Homan said at the National Conservatism Conference in July 2024."

The payments weren't for him to secure the business from Trump. It was to secure business from him as border czar if Trump 2.0 happened
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They may have thought it was to secure his business as border czar, but they would have to prove more than that, they would have to prove that was Homan's understanding and intent as well.

From MSNBC's article:
"When special agents in Texas began probing the subject’s claim that Homan was soliciting bribes, the White House border czar, 63, was president and owner of a private consulting business that said it could help companies in the border security industry win government contracts."

Nothing illegal there. I suspect Homan got paid by lots of people who thought his experience would help them get what they wanted.

As to the bribery to secure business from Homan himself when Trump 2.0 happened, also from the article (though it is buried way, way down):

After Trump was elected a second time in 2024, amid questions about Homan’s financial relationships with clients who sought work related to the border, Homan said he had no conflict and would take steps to prevent one. He said he was shutting down his consulting business and would remove himself from discussions of specific contracts to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest.

It appears that Homan closed his consulting business and removed himself from any decisions regarding contracts. I think that is a pretty good defense for him to any bribery prosecution. "Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, these agents may have *thought* I was going to engage in corruption, but they were mistaken. As proof of their mistake, look at what I actually did."

In fact, the article says the DOJ under the Biden Admin was waiting to see what Homan did once in the Trump admin to see if his acceptance of the money affected his contract assignments. It appears from this decision that they believed Homan's actions after the election were significant to proving his criminal intent when accepting the money. That makes sense.

I am not saying the agents did anything wrong, nor do I think they were engaged in a "partisan witch hunt," I just think *they* thought they had someone on the hook for corruption and it turned out the other party to the alleged corruption was not of a like mind as to the "conspiracy."

Granted, all we have is a bunch of reporting on this from writers who have access to the actual recordings and documents, and maybe those source materials have a smoking gun that would change my mind. For some reason the reporters don't share the actual recordings or documents with us.

My suspicion is that is because they can control the narrative if we can't judge the evidence ourselves. This isn't the 1800's, with limited type space on our papers, they can connect the source material to a hyperlink if there is actual evidence of corruption that we need to be fired up about it.

I don't need the media to tell me what to think. I have a lifetime of experience to know they can not be trusted to not manipulate their knowledge to try to sell papers and try to gain Pulitzers.
 
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Anyone have an over/under on how many Congressmen/Senators have taken big money from private entities or individuals and then actually taken official actions that in some way benefitted those donors once they were elected.

I am going with 535 on the nose.

And those people actually did something for the people who gave them money.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Anyone have an over/under on how many Congressmen/Senators have taken big money from private entities or individuals and then actually taken official actions that in some way benefitted those donors once they were elected.

I am going with 535 on the nose.

And those people actually did something for the people who gave them money.
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So you defense of Tom Homan openly accepting a quid-pro-quo bribe is "well every Congress person has probably done something similar"?

I mean ffs, why even have laws if we are just going to say "well someone else probably did something like that too so we shouldn't prosecute this naked violation of the law"?
 
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BeardedVol said:
So you defense of Tom Homan openly accepting a quid-pro-quo bribe is "well every Congress person has probably done something similar"?

I mean ffs, why even have laws if we are just going to say "well someone else probably did something like that too so we shouldn't prosecute this naked violation of the law"?
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I didn't say anything about, much less defend, Homan in the post to which you replied. But, yes, the Homan "corruption" allegations did get me thinking about all the lawful corruption our system allows.

Don't get me started on Congressional insider trading.
 
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This moron, Schumer, doesn't know what democracy is. He thinks its only with his loony hate filled disgusting anti-Trump party that democracy only belongs in. As long as Democrats get their way to rule w/an iron fist & do as they direct then their democracy way of life is fine. Go take a hike Chuckie. Better yet .... retire.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I disagree. I love that rule in college.
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That rule doesn't exist anymore. The only time the clock stops for first down is when they are selling more trucks and drugs... (in the last 2 minutes of each half)

But the assertion that they shortened the game is true. There isn't as much football actually being played in the 3+ hours that we are watching it. Prove me wrong.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
There is no antifa organization, it has no leader, no organizational chart. It is a movement of mostly peaceful demonstration. There has admittedly been violence, but antifa protestors where not always the instigators.
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There's another America hating organization that operates just like that. They also have a black flag and cover their faces.

The similarities are not lost on anyone paying attention.
 
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Looks like the morons (democrats) haven't learned their lesson from Nov 2024.
Still out here calling Trump a dictator and want to be a resistance to the american people's mandated vote when they elected Trump back into office to bring Unity.
 
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BeardedVol said:
So you defense of Tom Homan openly accepting a quid-pro-quo bribe is "well every Congress person has probably done something similar"?

I mean ffs, why even have laws if we are just going to say "well someone else probably did something like that too so we shouldn't prosecute this naked violation of the law"?
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it sounds completely made up.
 
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“I don’t want the best for them.”

This is our POTUS. I don’t care how ignorant or hateful or bull-headed I think some of you are, I still want the best for you. You are sons and daughters and brothers and sisters and moms and dads and play important roles in our society. I want the best for you. I want you to realize your potential, do things you love, love and be loved, and enjoy life.

If you can back this man to lead OUR America, I’m sorry, I just don’t understand it and can’t abide. Somebody please explain his line of thinking without the same ole “that’s Trump, he says wild things” line. He is accountable for his own words. This is plain hateful, not Christian, not moral, and not leadership.
 
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OHvol40 said:


“I don’t want the best for them.”

This is our POTUS. I don’t care how ignorant or hateful or bull-headed I think some of you are, I still want the best for you. You are sons and daughters and brothers and sisters and moms and dads and play important roles in our society. I want the best for you. I want you to realize your potential, do things you love, love and be loved, and enjoy life.

If you can back this man to lead OUR America, I’m sorry, I just don’t understand it and can’t abide. Somebody please explain his line of thinking without the same ole “that’s Trump, he says wild things” line. He is accountable for his own words. This is plain hateful, not Christian, not moral, and not leadership.
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When "the best" for someone else is in direct conflict with "the best" for me, or if "the best" for them is simply beyond the pale, I too unabashedly wish them the absolute worst.

You and your rogues' gallery have spent the last ten days pretending as if Charlie Kirk was some sort of monster. I find it unfortunate that the man you're so keen to vilify would have absolutely attempted to break bread with you and find common ground, while I think this about-face Kum Ba Yah ******** from you is absolutely hilarious, but that's just the kind of guy he seems to have been.

Trump, clearly, doesn't give a **** about that notion. He has a vendetta against the clowns who've tried to railroad him for the past decade, and I don't blame him one iota for wanting scorched earth.
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
When "the best" for someone else is in direct conflict with "the best" for me, or if "the best" for them is simply beyond the pale, I too unabashedly wish them the absolute worst.

You and your rogues' gallery have spent the last ten days pretending as if Charlie Kirk was some sort of monster. I find it unfortunate that the man you're so keen to vilify would have absolutely attempted to break bread with you and find common ground, while I think this about-face Kum Ba Yah ******** from you is absolutely hilarious, but that's just the kind of guy he seems to have been.

Trump, clearly, doesn't give a **** about that notion. He has a vendetta against the clowns who've tried to railroad him for the past decade, and I don't blame him one iota for wanting scorched earth.
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^^^ enables narcissistic revenge-seeking through the highest office in the land. Congrats. Wish you had so much fervor for children getting murdered in schools at an alarming rate.

Thanks for the insight
 
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OHvol40 said:
^^^ enables narcissistic revenge-seeking through the highest office in the land. Congrats. Wish you had so much fervor for children getting murdered in schools at an alarming rate.

Thanks for the insight
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Trump didn't murder children. Its trans people supported by the Democratic side doing those things. Thanks for your insight.
 
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