Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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He said groups fomenting (which means instigating) violence. Without seeing what his text actually said and the context it was said in, neither you nor I could infer fascism from it. I take it as putting an end to groups whose sole purpose is to riot, loot, whatever. That's trying to get your way through fear. It's what we call terrorism.
 
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jcvols24 said:
He said groups fomenting (which means instigating) violence. Without seeing what his text actually said and the context it was said in, neither you nor I could infer fascism from it. I take it as putting an end to groups whose sole purpose is to riot, loot, whatever. That's trying to get your way through fear. It's what we call terrorism.
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For s**s and giggles, let's play this out. Give me the "groups" you'd ban under Miller's ideal law.
 
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I don't know enough about any group at the moment to give an opinion one way or the other on if they should or should not be allowed to exist. It would take investigating that I don't have time for nor care to do.
 
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appvol said:
This is one smart young woman

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I am all for that. Name it after Charlie Kirk. Obama got rid of that and he had NO right to change that law. He did it knowing that that 7 out of the 8 most popular media channels in the US are extremely Leftist and comprise the Democrat Propaganda Machine. Complete bullcrap and it needs to change.
 
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Paper_Towel said:
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^^^ this is what a piece of **** looks like. Brave of this clown to post some garbage like that and then lock out comments so only the people they follow could respond. What's extremely disgusting is that over half a million people liked that comment.

I don't want anyone to abort their babies because its murder. I would be lying if I said I wasn't glad that when abortions are sadly performed it keeps a child from being raised by these psychotic people who celebrate the murder of a man just because they disagree with what he said. Lots of empathy and selfless behavior needed to raise a child to adulthood properly. Wanting someone shot in the neck in front of the world because you disagree with him doesn't suggest selflessness. It suggests narcissism, immaturity, and no moral foundation. None of that is good in a parent.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
^^^ this is what a piece of **** looks like. Brave of this clown to post some garbage like that and then lock out comments so only the people they follow could respond. What's extremely disgusting is that over half a million people liked that comment.

I don't want anyone to abort their babies because its murder. I would be lying if I said I wasn't glad that when abortions are sadly performed it keeps a child from being raised by these psychotic people who celebrate the murder of a man just because they disagree with what he said. Lots of empathy and selfless behavior needed to raise a child to adulthood properly. Wanting someone shot in the neck in front of the world because you disagree with him doesn't suggest selflessness. It suggests narcissism, immaturity, and no moral foundation. None of that is good in a parent.
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I’m a confused. Abortion is murder but you’re glad the baby is murdered bcuz it won’t grow up with a psychotic mother? Did I read that correctly?
 
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Smokey123 said:
I’m a confused. Abortion is murder but you’re glad the baby is murdered bcuz it won’t grow up with a psychotic mother? Did I read that correctly?
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Yeah thats called "looking on the bright side". I don't believe in killing babies in the womb...but if these people are celebrating the murder of an innocent man AND willing to kill an innocent child (their child) growing inside their own body then I guess the bright side is that baby didnt have to be raised by someone who clearly places no value on human life. I don't think "applauds murder" and "kills unborn babies" are desirable traits in a parent. Do you? Are those the traits you want in a woman raising YOUR kids? If so then cool...we just disagree about that.

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The one thing i always find amazing about people who are pro-abortion...every single one of you realize that if YOUR parents felt the same way that YOU would not exist?? If your own parents didn't value a human life more than you do, then you wouldnt be here to discuss this at all. Its funny that when abortion time comes, Daddy and Baby don't get a vote. Just the Mom. You may not even be for abortion. I have np idea and thats your choice. I just think thats kinda strange.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
What happened to Charlie Kirk was terrible, no question but it highlights a serious double standard. People on the right are outraged over a single death here, yet support policies that kill civilians, including children, in Palestine every day. That’s not consistent concern for human life it’s selective outrage. And the left does the same thing. We should be together and hate violence of all sorts. I’m gonna see my way out of this thread, I wish everyone the best
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We are allowed to separate the issues. You bringing up Palestine is just a classic example of whataboutism.

No, I'm not going to "be together" with a collective of people who can't seem to distinguish between a group, Hamas, who intentionally uses the places you described earlier to garner political favor by using human shields, and the countries trying to end Hamas who have taken a lot of precautions to navigate the situations that Hamas put those civilians in.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
This probably deserves its own thread but I’ll drop it here for now. Feel free to move or delete.
Thoughts if you watch?

It’s long but because of Charlie he’s laying it all for you…
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yeeeeaaaa I posted this like 25 pages ago and no one stopped a second to watch it...they're too busy doing exactly what the video talks about lol.
 
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The Original Fade said:
All of you on here going back and forth with one another with your snarky replies and perceived mic drop posts are delusional. You’re not changing anyone’s mind about anything. Want proof? Ask yourself if someone’s reply from the other side of the isle had any impact on you other than an opportunity for you to dream up another reply post that you think is a nuclear truth bomb. Newsflash - it isn’t. Your post is just noise and not changing anyone’s mind on any topic on here.
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O wow. This guy really changed my mind
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I'm not. I know that. Doesn't change the fact that it is a radical stance.
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You don’t care enough to even look at the context to know if it’s a radical stance. You’re taking one line quotes, refusing to look into either of them, and then making insane assumptions based of those.

It’s a sad look for a man old enough to have been around in the 60s
 
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Vol8188 said:
You don’t care enough to even look at the context to know if it’s a radical stance. You’re taking one line quotes, refusing to look into either of them, and then making insane assumptions based of those.

It’s a sad look for a man old enough to have been around in the 60s
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It was a paraphrased comment. Kirk has had that exchange on that subject more than once. I've watched the entire exchanges he's had on the subject. Just because you agree with it doesn't mean it's not a radical viewpoint. In one of those exchanges, Kirk also states blacks were better off in the 1940s than they've been for the 80 years since. It doesn't matter that he explains his reasoning of the statement. It's still a radical viewpoint. Sometimes radical viewpoints need to be expressed in order to affect change. You become too focused on trying to prove people wrong with whom you disagree. Just like you looked foolish trying to defend Patel.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
It was a paraphrased comment. Kirk has had that exchange on that subject more than once. I've watched the entire exchanges he's had on the subject. Just because you agree with it doesn't mean it's not a radical viewpoint. In one of those exchanges, Kirk also states blacks were better off in the 1940s than they've been for the 80 years since. It doesn't matter that he explains his reasoning of the statement. It's still a radical viewpoint. Sometimes radical viewpoints need to be expressed in order to affect change. You become too focused on trying to prove people wrong with whom you disagree. Just like you looked foolish trying to defend Patel.
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Post the videos. If you’ve seen him say these things, and you’re even admitting that you’re not only taking him out of context, but you’re even paraphrasing the actual one line quotes, then post the videos.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Post the videos. I’ve you’ve seen him say these things, and you’re even admitting that you’re not only taking him out of context, but you’re even paraphrasing the actual one line quotes, then post the videos.
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I think you can pull them up rather easily. I have difficulty trying to post attachments on my phone. My whole point with you is that it is ok for you to have viewpoints that are radical and outside of the mainstream. Seems you have an issue admitting it. It's not meant to discredit you.

Go Vols!
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I think you can pull them up rather easily. I have difficulty trying to post attachments on my phone. My whole point with you is that it is ok for you to have viewpoints that are radical and outside of the mainstream. Seems you have an issue admitting it. It's not meant to discredit you.

Go Vols!
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You say that without providing actual examples of radical views. Pretending all right wing views are radical is a major issue in the media today
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I think you can pull them up rather easily. I have difficulty trying to post attachments on my phone. My whole point with you is that it is ok for you to have viewpoints that are radical and outside of the mainstream. Seems you have an issue admitting it. It's not meant to discredit you.

Go Vols!
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I’ve heard this accusation made. I’ve been unable to locate an unedited video of it. If someone has to chop it up then it’s probably fake or intentionally misleading because the context has been changed. I’m no Kirk fan so I don’t know much about what he has or hasn’t said. But I have looked at several of these accusations and so far they’ve all been false. Maybe you can point me to an unedited video. Thanks in advance
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’ve heard this accusation made. I’ve been unable to locate an unedited video of it. If someone has to chop it up then it’s probably fake or intentionally misleading because the context has been changed. I’m no Kirk fan so I don’t know much about what he has or hasn’t said. But I have looked at several of these accusations and so far they’ve all been false. Maybe you can point me to an unedited video. Thanks in advance
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You can’t expect a man who lived through the 1960s to know how to copy and paste! Or be mature enough to have a conversation about the negative sides of interrogation for the black community
 
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Vol8188 said:
You can’t expect a man who lived through the 1960s to know how to copy and paste! Or be mature enough to have a conversation about the negative sides of interrogation for the black community
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Thats 100% true though. Im trying to explain to my Dad right now how to use wifi on the laptop he has been using wifi on for years....
 
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