Dadof2Vols
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@SergeantVol didn't get the 1000 yard stare from combat,I also joined the Army at 18, deployed to combat at 20, and had my first child at 21.
If the only reason you are getting married is to have sex, then you should not get married IMO. If that is a fringe benefit, then so be it. You should get married because you are both ready to commit to unselfishly looking out for the best interests of your spouse over yourself. Selfishness is marriage is not a good recipe.Making of God's precious and intimate sacrament a simple shallow release for lust is not a sin?! I don't agree at all with your opinion of what marriage is if you think it's not a sin to enter into it primarily just for sex. I think it's a horrific sin to make marriage into something like that.
And no, people don't change anywhere near as much between 25 and 30 as they do between 20 and 25. It isn't weak to wait, it's wise. Though wisdom is almost always considered weakness in our culture.
Become an adult, then get married. After 25, who you are is much, much, MUCH more concrete than when you're 20.
Right Glitch!Too many beta males in our society today. Alpha males lead their families and provide the masculine side of the coin that all children need. They need to know that they have a father that cares enough about them to discipline them and teach them the right way to do things. A woman needs a man to step into his role as leader and protector and provider. They don't need a gigantic kid that does the bare minimum for her and then goes and plays video games while she shoulders the bulk of the family load. Men need to be men and stop being little cry baby little weaklings. (right @Ulysees E. McGill ?)
Here's a boom. The hardest prayer I ever prayed was: "Father, grow <wife> into the person *you* want her to be. Please give me the grace to accept her as the person she is right now." In doing so I gave up my misguided quest to turn her into what I wanted. Not coincidentally, my marriage got much better around that time.
I'll try that on my 4th wife.......when that time comes.Here's a boom. The hardest prayer I ever prayed was: "Father, grow <wife> into the person *you* want her to be. Please give me the grace to accept her as the person she is right now." In doing so I gave up my misguided quest to turn her into what I wanted. Not coincidentally, my marriage got much better around that time.
But I like video games. And as it turns out, my wife likes to watch murder shows while I play video games. Wait...Too many beta males in our society today. Alpha males lead their families and provide the masculine side of the coin that all children need. They need to know that they have a father that cares enough about them to discipline them and teach them the right way to do things. A woman needs a man to step into his role as leader and protector and provider. They don't need a gigantic kid that does the bare minimum for her and then goes and plays video games while she shoulders the bulk of the family load. Men need to be men and stop being little cry baby little weaklings. (right @Ulysees E. McGill ?)
I… think we’re misunderstanding each other. I was mostly responding to the two scenarios you laid out on whether it was more sinful. I think we’re on the same wavelength for the most part, jave.Making of God's precious and intimate sacrament a simple shallow release for lust is not a sin?! I don't agree at all with your opinion of what marriage is if you think it's not a sin to enter into it primarily just for sex. I think it's a horrific sin to make marriage into something like that.
And no, people don't change anywhere near as much between 25 and 30 as they do between 20 and 25. It isn't weak to wait, it's wise. Though wisdom is almost always considered weakness in our culture.
Become an adult, then get married. After 25, who you are is much, much, MUCH more concrete than when you're 20.
Interesting post. Not sure with the wording whether it was you or your wife dating girls in their 20s & 30s…LOLGot married 14 years ago. My hwife, in her 40's now. Wasnt then. Dated girls in twenties, and thirties then. Maturity level wasnt even same. Nor can you say 'this age range, is more mature.' Met 21 yo's more mature than some 30 yo's.
The Stare...that painting is sad to me. I read about the artist with the Marines seeing the results of Tarawa (this one iirc, maybe Iwo Jima) and other battles, and instead of the gung-ho propaganda the military wanted him to produce (understandably) he decided to instead capture the horror of the War in the Pacific. I am thankful that he did...his art is haunting and really shows the horror these boys went through.
A lot of wisdom brother. Good on you.Here's a boom. The hardest prayer I ever prayed was: "Father, grow <wife> into the person *you* want her to be. Please give me the grace to accept her as the person she is right now." In doing so I gave up my misguided quest to turn her into what I wanted. Not coincidentally, my marriage got much better around that time.
Too many beta males in our society today. Alpha males lead their families and provide the masculine side of the coin that all children need. They need to know that they have a father that cares enough about them to discipline them and teach them the right way to do things. A woman needs a man to step into his role as leader and protector and provider. They don't need a gigantic kid that does the bare minimum for her and then goes and plays video games while she shoulders the bulk of the family load. Men need to be men and stop being little cry baby little weaklings. (right @Ulysees E. McGill ?)
Depends on your theological bent. Sin is sin to me, but not everyone lives by the same moral code. Not for me to tell you one way or the other. My way works and I feel it is right. You like your way. We still cheer for the Vols. Except @Adam Sandler who is a secret jawja/bammer fan.I've done a lot worse things to go to purgatory for than just living in sin with a woman out of wedlock... Marriage isn't for everyone, nothing wrong with just living together.
Yeah...I suppose we will find out by and by.Depends on your theological bent. Sin is sin to me, but not everyone lives by the same moral code. Not for me to tell you one way or the other. My way works and I feel it is right. You like your way. We still cheer for the Vols. Except @Adam Sandler who is a secret jawja/bammer fan.
Why would anyone get married for sex? It is much easier to have sex as a single man.If the only reason you are getting married is to have sex, then you should not get married IMO. If that is a fringe benefit, then so be it. You should get married because you are both ready to commit to unselfishly looking out for the best interests of your spouse over yourself. Selfishness is marriage is not a good recipe.
choosing the right partner is one of the most important decisions a person can make. I feel very blessed that my wife puts up with me.Here's a boom. The hardest prayer I ever prayed was: "Father, grow <wife> into the person *you* want her to be. Please give me the grace to accept her as the person she is right now." In doing so I gave up my misguided quest to turn her into what I wanted. Not coincidentally, my marriage got much better around that time.
Guess I should have used blue font? Just playing along bud. If you want to discuss that chapter on a serious note we can, but like I said, just playing along.That doesn't mean "the purpose and definition of marriage is sexual relief."
It means, "a proper marriage that is entered into for the right reason of mirroring to each other how God loves us will have the benefit of also helping with burning passions."
The Bible is not meant to be read in partial phrases....