Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[Garren04]

Also believe people are overlooking Gunner Stockton of Georgia. Played in a CFP game vs Notre Dame and played reasonably well for his first start.

Interesting take

 

[knoxvol52]

We must have watched different games. If he hadn’t have played and they ran the ball, they would have won. His turnovers killed them. And a lot of yards came at the end when they let him get yards cause it was over. They let him have short throws. Numerous sacks, fumble, and INT for pick six.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Ouch....

Since 1972 we've won in Gainesville twice... 2003 and 2001.

Well since Heupel took over they’ve won in Knoxville zero times and the tide is gonna turn on the gators in November when we play them as it will be only 80 degrees instead of 100 so get ready to beat that gata azz

 

[knoxvol52]

Interesting take

My opinion if yours is different so be it..I'm not arguing about this **** .

 

[Brillovol]

LNS coming along.

 

[JCVol00]

Have you considered the coaching staff treated them gingerly instead of assuming they can’t stay healthy? Or is that impossible for you to consider?

And you call me toxic lol

So treating them gingerly means keeping them out for over a week straight with a new qb?

Ok lol

 

[MemphisVol3]

I am sure there was no chance, but if there was - we chose wrong

Haha from a mentality/leadership perspective I agree with you. From a performance aspect, no one knows since this is his first year starting. He's had two years in that system though so I wouldn't be surprised if he's darn good.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Not a hot take at all because I agree with you

Here's a hot take:
The refs we're right in the Purdue game

 

[RiseToTheTop]

We must have watched different games. If he hadn’t have played and they ran the ball, they would have won. His turnovers killed them. And a lot of yards came at the end when they let him get yards cause it was over. They let him have short throws. Numerous sacks, fumble, and INT for pick six.

bingo

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Odds on which one of us has the 1st full-blown meltdown in the first game thread?

 

[volbeast33]

 

[SoilVol]

We didn’t play every other year in Gainesville though back in the 70s and 80s though did we

I don't think so. Not sure when we started doing that.

Prior to that we beat them in Gainesville regularly.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Ouch....

Since 1972 we've won in Gainesville twice... 2003 and 2001.

Heupel needs to fly Casey Clausen out to be with the team for that game. Need that guy's mojo to fix the @ Florida issues.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Dude the recievers are beyond talented. They are just always hurt and have little or no production.

Yeah the injuries are the worry, but WR is probably the only position that I think talent > experience.

TE room and RB room should be able to help offset some of the lack of production.

Our offense in 4 years under Heupel has been very spread out with WRs...

2024 we had 4 WRs catch 25 or more passes for 300 or more yards
2023 we had 4 WRs catch 15 or more passes for 200 or so yards (Bru injury and Joe checking down to RBs/TEs more had big impact)
2022 we had 5 WRs catch 30 or more passes for at least 400 yards
2021 we had 3 WRs catch 18 or more passes for at least 225 yards

Obviously '22 was the "perfect" year from a passing game standpoint but even with Hyatt having such a big year the distribution was still there.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I am sure there was no chance, but if there was - we chose wrong

Love the Manning family....I 100% think the opposite of "go here" was happening for them.

I don't think he was likely coming to TN or Ole Miss...every other spot likely an option, Texas made a lot of sense and I'm just happy he didn't pick Bama.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Hot take: Ty Simpson outplays DJ Lagway this year. I might the only non-believer in Lagway. Talented but TO machine last year.









Watch Lagway be awesome now lol.

Ty Simpson has already appeared in 16 games and been at Bama for 3 seasons with 2 Head Coaches. The fact he sat behind Milroe 2 of those years is very telling to me.

 

[SoilVol]

#6 Lady Vols soccer playing at #4 UCLA tonight at 10pm ET.

Coach put together a monster schedule this year.

 

[vol9799]

I don't think so. Not sure when we started doing that.

Prior to that we beat them in Gainesville regularly.

Regular trips didn't start till '91. Was a dry hole in the '90's and the '10's; shouldn't have been. We've squandered a lot of leads/games in that place.

 

[VolGee4]

I am not buying this new "we don't have WRs" debate either.

Travis Smith Jr. - 18th rated WR in 2025 class
Radarious Jackson - 30th rated WR in 2025 class
Amari Jefferson - 33rd rated WR in 2024 class
Mike Matthews - 9th rated WR in 2024 class
Braylon Staley - 15th rated WR in 2024 class
Chris Brazzell - 18th rated transfer WR in 2024 class

OL gives protection and you get a QB that knows wtf they're doing and you'll have WRs looking like studs.

Bru McCoy with Hooker throwing = stud
White looked like he was destined to be a beast with Hooker and even had a good year with Joe
Ramel Keyton as well

Nico was more of the problem than staff wanted to admit, even now with him gone they won't make those excuses or place blame. Just not how Heupel operates...but you don't handle the offseason the way we did IF he's a legit 1st round QB talent.

To add to your point, I think you used 247 rankings. Based on the composite and on3 rankings, Travis Smith was a top 85 OVERALL player. Mike Matthews was a top 26 overall player.

 

[Wickman]

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Talent isnt the issue, the depth is, as is the lack of production returning. Matthews and Stayley have a combined 9 career catches. Not to mention stayley and brazzell missed most of fall camp-and matthews missed a bit too. So they’ve already proven they cant stay healthy, and as it is we are going to be relying on guys who have never played a single snap in college (jefferson, jackson, smith)

Year 1 under Heupel, highlighted are the guys that had any previous production going into that season.


Tillman entered 2021 with 8 career catches
Hyatt a sophomore with 20 career catches
Payton in 2 years at Miss State had 28 catches

Gotta get the WR room healthy though, totally agree with that. But for most WRs this offense is just catching the ball on wide open routes. If you learn the routes and catch the ball you can put up huge numbers. I also think we see Ethan Davis a lot more in WR routes...

I'm fully anticipating early in the year we see mostly 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB sets.

 

[UTvol1fn]

Lol

Master of bating, most definitely

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Ouch....

Since 1972 we've won in Gainesville twice... 2003 and 2001.

2003: 24 to 10, Clausen went 12 of 23 for 235 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT
2001: 34 to 32, Travis Stephens 226 rushing yards and 2 TDs carried the day (Clausen threw 2 INTs with 1 TD and just 168 yards passing)

We for sure have defense to beat them, just a matter of if the RB room and Joey can do enough to keep us from needing to score 30+

 

[UpstateVol613]