War in Ukraine

Its not its own country, which is why it did what its masters told them. Sovereignty, where the U.S. tells you what to do or they cut you off from the global financial system and bomb you. Same thing. We have been through this exercise.
so from 1991 on the US has owned Ukraine? that is your stance?
 
so from 1991 on the US has owned Ukraine? that is your stance?

When did I say that? Basically, you're using sensational words or implying words i.e. sovereignty. Its just a word, just like everyone screams "freedom". Its up to the parties to determine how "sovereign" they want to appear, as an American I want to be out of this business. Borders change all the time, I just want my tax dollars out of all this mess as I believe we were either the root cause of it or a major reason why this exists.

I have no problem with them fighting it out.
 
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Which was what? Reminding you that you brag about voting for Haley? Reminder had she won, we are sending money to fund the war. If we are speaking of spineless. Might want to regroup.

Classic post, when emojis come out you quit.
I have mentioned that I voted for her a few times. Stating I "bragged" about it is an extreme characterization of it. In your usual mantra, you seem to be more concerned about casting aspersions as to people's motives without having the first damn clue as to what you're talking about. It's ok that you need to change the subject. That and being a LIAR is your SOP
 
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Its not its own country, which is why it did what its masters told them. Sovereignty, where the U.S. tells you what to do or they cut you off from the global financial system and bomb you. Same thing. We have been through this exercise.
Which of the formerly Soviet states are the real countries?
 
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That's not true at all. Trump has embarrassed himself and our country in his dealings with Putin both in his first term and in the current term. Most everyone gets that. Most all Americans want an end to this war, and most Americans also know we have an incompetent President negotiating on our behalf. It's been a real shat show. Hopefully he can muster some sort of compromise that doesn't favor Russia too much

On another note, there are far more people who are at least as patriotic as you who dislike Trump. In fact, I would say more so, since you have obviously put your loyalty to him over the country.
I don't support Trump but I wonder what you a think favoring Russia outcome looks like. He doesn't really have much in the way to threaten with other than US military involvement or sanctions. No way I'm he'll I want our military involved and not sure what more sanctions would accomplish at this point.

He didn't have much to leverage with at this point.
 
Good ole buddy.

Trust me, nothing posted in this forum is worth throwing a punch.

I just consider it akin to an observation platform overlooking a mental asylum with a TV in it playing Comedy Central. I do get some joy watching the smart internet warriors do battle behind their keyboards in the name of Freedom. Never gets old.

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I don't support Trump but I wonder what you a think favoring Russia outcome looks like. He doesn't really have much in the way to threaten with other than US military involvement or sanctions. No way I'm he'll I want our military involved and not sure what more sanctions would accomplish at this point.

He didn't have much to leverage with at this point.

We have some economic leverage in that we can relax sanctions. But in the end the real question is whether either the war has reached mutual stalemate, or whether for Putin the juice is not worth the squeeze.

Either way, Putin has to go home with something to justify the losses this has caused on his side of the fence.
 
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I just consider it akin to an observation platform overlooking a mental asylum with a TV in it playing Comedy Central. I do get some joy watching the smart internet warriors do battle behind their keyboards in the name of Freedom. Never gets old.

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Comedy central only has one good show.
 
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Comedy central only has one good show.
Yeah, but we're just watching the nuts watch it, its non-stop entertainment. Just throw a ball of yarn (or even one of the cancelled talk shows) in the pit of loons same thing, sad, but a guilty form of entertainment.
 
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