Israel vs Palestinians

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KB5252 said:
With all due respect Huff this woman is an idiot spouting hyperbole ........... Because if what she says has substance it would mean Israel absolutely sucks at genocide.

It's the equivalent of a pond owner deciding he wanted to eradicate some fish from his pond........ And having a garage full of dynamite to do it with. He would have that pond void of life within days if that was the goal.

The fact there are still any fish alive at all after more than a year indicates he's either incompetent, or killing all the fish was obviously never the goal.

Hamas is holding Israel and Palestinians hostage at this point. This ends tomorrow if they do. Then whatever comes next. But Israel has made a very difficult bed to lay in with regards to the Palestinian people.

Palestinians are going to have to learn to live with, not separate from Israelis and vice versa. The time of having separate lands needs to be over.
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There are some good, well thought out points there.
The definition of genocide in international law isn't the same as in the vernacular, and it looks to have been met in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing, which constitutes various war crimes, sure seems to be in progress. Making the place unlivable has been going on for a while.
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Rights expert finds ‘reasonable grounds’ genocide is being committed in Gaza

There are "reasonable grounds" to believe that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories said on Tuesday.
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OrangeTsar said:
Please explain in a logically constructed sentence what is different between expecting Israel to feed Palestinians in 2025 vs Britain feeding Germany in 1944?

Please PLEASE make a coherent argument for at least one time in your life?
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Why ask what you can't do?
That's a bad analogy. No real student of history would come up with it since they'd consider the legal status of the territory being attacked.
 
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Watch 2km of Hamas tunnels being destroyed. Hamas built 500km of these military facilities, underneath everything in Gaza. That’s why Gaza looks like it does now.



This is what happens when you build terror tunnels under your own people.
 
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MAD said:
You can criticize Israel all you want, just back it up with actual proof.
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If canada invaded us, kidnapped Americans, raped Americans, and killed Americans I wouldn't give an flying F what happened to a single Canadian as long as they were holding Americans hostage. Do I want innocents to die? No. But if that happens in the course of getting ours back then so be it
 
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volinbham said:
VFH advocating genocide up in here
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Its really interesting to me. People think Israel is being inhumane? Can you
Imagine if we had American citizens literally kidnapped within our borders and taken to a hostile country. Hell our response after 9/11 would have looked easy. This country would have demanded daily bombimgs and mass ground invasions. We would have given zero F’s about the enemy. And we would have listened to Toby Keith and Lee Greenwood. Its really silly the reaction to Israel. And then this nonsense about Palestine not being Hamas. Lets be clear

62% of this country does not support Trump. If he bombs someone tomorrow that's on us. We elected him.

Same with Hamas and Palestine. “ Oh no we elected suicidal sociopathic dictoars into power how could they act like suicidal sociopathic dictators? Don't blame us. “Its like a Cohen brothers movie.
 
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When they can't attack you for the things you do they'll simply make something up.

It's like when the UN Humanitarian Affairs chief Tom Fletcher said 14,000 children were going to die in the next 48 hours of starvation, only for them to quietly state afterwards what he meant was 14,000 might develop malnutrition over the next year if aid wasn't increased.
 
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The open hate for Israel by Democrats and Leftists in this country is staggering. Never, ever thought I would see that here after the atrocities in WW2 and all of the American heroes who gave their lives to put the the Axis powers down. I am thankful there are no more WW2 veterans alive to see this disgrace..

Hopefully the Jews in America realize and keep receipts for those who show their hate. There arent enough Jewish people in this nation to make much of a difference in elections...about 7.5 million which is half of the 15 million Jews on Earth...but there are enough of them here to make their presence felt in some local and maybe state elections. Sadly most of them live in NYC where the Republicans will likely never win an election again so the Jews votes dont matter much in federal elections. Maybe they can relocate to safer places like here in the South where they will be welcomed with open arms.
 
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International law - the WEST BANK belongs to Israel According to international law, who does the West Bank belong to? To Israel. Surprised? Watch the video and you’ll see it actually makes sense.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They could have had them back. Netanyahu declined the hostage agreement because he wants Palestinians ethnically cleansed from Gaza.

Bro, you can't even admit that Palestinians are starving. You are in denial of something everybody else is saying except Israel, who will not allow journalists into Gaza to independently report it.

You are hopeless. This hostage exchange refusal by Netanyahu has been explained to you. It's not the only time he did it, but it's the first time he admitted what his real goal was.
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Who is starving them?
 
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volfanhill said:
If canada invaded us, kidnapped Americans, raped Americans, and killed Americans I wouldn't give a flying F what happened to a single Canadian as long as they were holding Americans hostage. Do I want innocents to die? No. But if that happens in the course of getting ours back then so be it
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A reprehensible take.
 
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MAD said:


International law - the WEST BANK belongs to Israel According to international law, who does the West Bank belong to? To Israel. Surprised? Watch the video and you’ll see it actually makes sense.
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If Israel really owns the West Bank, why do they run an apartheid system there? Even if they don't own it by international law, and they don't, why do they run an apartheid system there?
 
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What do y’all think of Hamas demanding a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital and they refuse to stop the terror until they get what they want?
 
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Persian Vol said:
Yes, according to many people here, anything critical of Israel is all Hamas propaganda, and that we are all being duped.
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This came out yesterday.

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The biggest newspaper in Germany @BILD just exposed what other media outlets are trying to hide: The deliberate staging of Hamas propaganda by photographers in Gaza, that are later sold for tens of thousands of dollars to western media outlets to create a false narrative to demonise Israel and strengthen Hamas.

The article analyses the case of Anas Zayed Fteiha, a so-called “freelance journalist” who works for the Turkish state news agency Anadolu. On paper, he’s a reporter, but in reality, he’s an Islamic propagandist with a camera. That’s obvious from his social media posts, where he proudly poses in combat gear and shares slogans like “Free Palestine” or even “F*** Israel.” Neutrality? Not a chance.

The article shows that many of his photos deliver exactly what Hamas needs: suffering, rubble, crying children captured in perfect lighting. The kind of imagery that instantly sparks outrage against Israel in the West. But where are the photos that show the full picture? For example, the scenes where adult men collect food that’s actually being distributed? Those images vanish into obscurity. Instead, the “emotional shockers” end up in outlets like stern, CNN, BBC, Deutschlandfunk—and even in BILD itself.

And none of this is a coincidence. The Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) confirms what experts have been saying for a long time: 𝗻𝗼 𝗰𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗮 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗚𝗮𝘇𝗮 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗛𝗮𝗺𝗮𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗹 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝘁.

Historian Gerhard Paul puts it plainly: in southern Gaza, Hamas controls 100% of visual output. In other words, any photographer who doesn’t produce what the terrorists want is out of a job. That’s why the suffering is always portrayed one-sidedly, it’s designed to provoke sympathy in the West and stir anger at Israel.

Even historical parallels are drawn: back in 2002, Arafat staged himself in his “fortress” in Ramallah as a tragic hero by candlelight cameras on, spotlights off, pure emotion. Minutes later, he was back under bright lights. Same trick, different setting.

The disturbing part? Major news agencies and media outlets play along. They buy these images without questioning who’s behind them. Reuters defends itself by saying, “Our photos meet standards of accuracy and independence”, but it’s clear that in a place where Hamas monitors every pixel, true independence is impossible.

And now the key question: Why don’t we see revelations like this in other media? Why doesn’t ARD produce a report on how tightly Hamas controls imagery coming out of Gaza? Why doesn’t the BBC acknowledge that many of its sources are actually activists? The answer is simple: because this truth is uncomfortable. It would disrupt the cherished victim-aggressor narrative,where Israel is always the oppressor, and Palestinians are always the helpless victims.

The reality is this: Hamas is waging a double war: with rockets and with images. And in the second war, they’ve already won over half the world, because the media uncritically reproduces their perfectly staged visuals. Anyone who doesn’t see that is blindly walking into a propaganda trap.
 
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