Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[Adam2014]

Josh Pate to ON3 is insane.

 

[Garren04]

Joey created 28 explosive completions in 2024 (passes over 25+ yards) vs Nico created 17 for us last year

 

[DD4ME]

I mean Ainge doesn't think it's particularly close. Joey is easily the best one right now. Wouldn't doubt it.

You can watch Aguilar from two whole seasons ago where he lit it up. When I remember watching Merk look uncomfortable in a 60 point game against Chattanooga less than a year ago now.

 

[VolGee4]

Yeah routes on air versus live fire are 2 different things. Ainge is the only one I have heard that thinks the competition is not close. He will likely end up right regardless how close it is or isn't. Joey has so much more experience he's the obvious choice. But he may not be Hooker accurate either. It may very much look like Nico and Milton.

It may look a little discombobulated early. I recall someone posting Aguilar’s vertical pass percentage, and if he can hit those based on his history, then it will look better than Nico and Milton. I’m also excited about his run game. I think we can take advantage of that kind of like Hooker.

 

[JCVol00]

I find it interesting that Merk has been the 1st qb in for routes vs air and with the 1st wr’s for 4 of the 5 practices

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

That's Austin having watched just routes on air and things he's heard.

I'm still siding with Ainge's former QB eyeballs assessing them all in team period.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

It may look a little discombobulated early. I recall someone posting Aguilar’s vertical pass percentage, and if he can hit those based on his history, then it will look better than Nico and Milton. I’m also excited about his run game. I think we can take advantage of that kind of like Hooker.

He has the best deep ball completion percentage out of any projected P5 starting QB.

I'll still hold my breath on the first deep ball lol. But he's hit them in his career. Tons of App and juco highlights of him doing it.

The odds have to be in our favor here....even with Jake and George like...it would be insane if it keeps happening.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I don't believe it. I think it's Aguilar and there isn't much question to it. I believe the media is pumping a narrative to create interest and drama to fuel their paychecks.

 

[Aesius]

He has the best deep ball completion percentage out of any projected P5 starting QB.

I'll still hold my breath on the first deep ball lol. But he's hit them in his career. Tons of App and juco highlights of him doing it.

The odds have to be in our favor here....even with Jake and George like...it would be insane if it keeps happening.

The offense was fairly efficient in 2023 and 2024 even without a consistent deep ball threat. I think we're going to be very happy if Aguilar is even 80% as accurate as Hooker was on them.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I find it interesting that Merk has been the 1st qb in for routes vs air and with the 1st wr’s for 4 of the 5 practices

"There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably Tennessee too. . ."

I kinda remember Hooker, Milton and Nico running in different practice slots. I don't think that really means much.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

The offense was fairly efficient in 2023 and 2024 even without a consistent deep ball threat. I think we're going to be very happy if Aguilar is even 80% as accurate as Hooker was on them.

1st completed deep ball is gonna feel like a weight is lifted off the fan base and program, similar to the '22 bama game. . .

 

[SugarCC]

About the criticisms of Hooker and Tennessee offense...

First off, I want Brian Callahan to succeed, I do...even though i didnt really like his hiring to begin with. I still, very much, question whether he will succeed...his first year of play calling, without Joe Burrow, showed me not a thing to trust that he knows what he's talking about...especially as it pertains to UT's offense.

Second...Collinsworth's comment is so lazy and absurd. He talks about Hooker, who has ONE healthy year under his belt, and "anticipatory throws"...while comparing him to Jared Goff, who has been in the league NINE years, and been to a Super Bowl. No sh!t he can anticipate, you jackass; he'd been sitting on the couch long ago, if he couldn't. Then he goes on to puke up Kyle Allen's "advantage", in that he can "anticipate". Again, I'd hope the hell so, he's been in the league for SEVEN seasons.

Yes, there may be a bit of truth to what they're saying; but, anticipation, throwing to a spot rather than the receiver, guys coming out of college who are already very good at it...those guys are called special. Anticipation, throwing to spots, and throwing WRs open, precision...that takes time, craft, practice after practice, throw after throw. As great of a thrower as Manning was at UT, it was nowhere near the stratosphere of his peak. Yes, some guys coming out may be further along at it, some offenses in in college may help more than others; but, to make that kind of comment...just another example of a talking head being half-assed or nothing at all.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You are absolutely right Mcgill, they were roided up no doubt. I also believe it was a bigger problem in the 80s and 90s than everyone knew. I don't think they were the only ones doing it, just on a larger scale. Their roid system was like bammers bag game, I believe they had help just like the bammers do from the community and state............that's my conspiracy theory anyway. They were able to get away with it.

Exactly

 

[JCVol00]

"There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably Tennessee too. . ."

I kinda remember Hooker, Milton and Nico running in different practice slots. I don't think that really means much.

by practice 4 Milton was always first up, then hooker/hb alternated behind him fwiw

 

[Volsdeep4]

I find it interesting that Merk has been the 1st qb in for routes vs air and with the 1st wr’s for 4 of the 5 practices

No slight towards you but then you might not of played team sports.
New guy doesn’t just come in and take over for a guy who has been there. The guy who just came in has to earn and fight for that spot. It’s important for the team to see it and feel it too.

 

[DD4ME]

I'm optimistic too, but I'll still hope our receivers can stay healthy enough to build some chemistry and success. If we had a veteran group of receivers or more experience in the room I'd have no questions about offense. For me it's more a sum of the parts question than do we have talent question. We absolutely do have talent at QB and reciever. Looking forward to seeing it click and them succeed.

 

[SoilVol]

I respectfully disagree. Some of the methods they use like X-ray could absolutely be implemented without their continued presence, or at the very least with a greatly reduced number of personnel.

They are holdovers from a tense moment in history, but that doesn’t mean they should have become a permanent fixture. I’m hopeful that with the rise of AI and machine vision, we’ll soon see their jobs eliminated.

And really, the fact that the government knows they’re so ineffective that you can just pay a fee to bypass them should tell you everything you need to know.

You don't simply pay to bypass them. You get pre-approved as a safe flyer who is not a threat and warrants less oversight. It's not a speed pass at Disney.

Like I said, it needs reform but its still necessary. The fact they miss stuff is testament that there's still dangerous stuff trying to get through airports. Would be great for machines and AI to get implemented and be better than people, but that's still TSA.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Nebraska's highest elevation is 5424 ft according to McGoogles Almanac. Average elevation is 2,600 ft.

Johnson City TN is right at 1630 ft.

Fun fact, Iowa has ski resorts.

The Great Plains states all slope up from east to west at a pretty good clip...the town area where I grew up in the Texas Panhandle is on what is called the Llano Estacado and is one of the flattest areas anywhere on the Great Plains...but the elevation is in the upper 3000 foot range, and the farther west you go towards the Rockies in New Mexico/Colorado the higher it gets until it is much like Denver...right at a mile high or more.

 

[DD4ME]

Sanders is giving off very strong commitment to his craft vibes. I am excited to see how high he flies.

 

[DD4ME]

Perry is another dude drawing huge praise. He has a chance to truly contribute.

 

[DD4ME]

I'm optimistic too, but I'll still hope our receivers can stay healthy enough to build some chemistry and success. If we had a veteran group of receivers or more experience in the room I'd have no questions about offense. For me it's more a sum of the parts question than do we have talent question. We absolutely do have talent at QB and reciever. Looking forward to seeing it click and them succeed.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The events at bristol keep getting smaller. Next they'll do a basketball game, then WWF match, royal rumble. . .

They should put 3 football fields on there and play 3 games at the same time, .

Fun fact...my boy drives a truck for an events company that supplies tents, bleachers, furniture...whatever...for a lot of these big shindigs around the country, and he delivered most of the stuff for that Bristol Speedway game. He sent me a vid of him driving his rig on the speedway along with several pics...I thought that was pretty cool.

 

[DD4ME]

Perry is another dude drawing huge praise. He has a chance to truly contribute.

 

[DD4ME]

Fun fact...my boy drives a truck for an events company that supplies tents, bleachers, furniture...whatever...for a lot of these big shindigs around the country, and he delivered most of the stuff for that Bristol Speedway game. He sent me a vid of him driving his rig on the speedway along with several pics...I thought that was pretty cool.

That is cool

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

The offense was fairly efficient in 2023 and 2024 even without a consistent deep ball threat. I think we're going to be very happy if Aguilar is even 80% as accurate as Hooker was on them.

Yeah and Hooker missed some too. Joe and Nico were also hurt by a lot of drops too and overall WR core that wasn't as good.

The problem was, we still had guys schemed widddee open as hell and they were still missed at an absurd rate.

I think what could hurt Aguilar more is not having a WR group as good as 2022.

But if he hits the wide open ones, the defense and running game remains good then we could very easily go back to the playoff.

We would have been 11-1 at worst, hosting a playoff game, winning a home playoff game and who knows how much further, if Nico could anticipate at all and hit wide open deep balls.

UGA is the only team that we haven't had as many guys running wide open all around the field. We are worried about being able to beat Bama and UF on the road, but last year we literally left up to 30+ points on the board against Bama and probably close to that against Florida. Fumbles in the red zone, missed deep balls, missed FG's and int's. We should have blown them both out. There's a world where we have a good defense again and have those opportunities again and hit them down in those two sheise holes.