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OrangeTsar said:
Soooo, no belief in “defending democracy” any more? Dont the Republicans in Texas own the majority? Not just of seats but of the popular vote?
Maybe win some elections instead of taking your ball and going home when you lose
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They are gerrymandering, which they have every right to try to do.

But the rules require a quorum, and the Dems have every right to block the gerrymandering my scooting and depriving them of the quorum.

I can envision no law whereby they'd have to present themselves in the state, or at the state house, and which could pass constitutional muster. So, the Dems are likewise entitled to do what they are doing.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope (IE yes I agree). They’ve done this several times before and they’ll do it again too. And it backfires on them every time.
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Part of the votes that have to be cancelled involve relief funds for areas hit by the July 4 flash flooding. I hope the Republicans point that out often and loudly.
Dems (as usual) care more about political power than actually helping their constituents.
 
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lawgator1 said:
They are gerrymandering, which they have every right to try to do.

But the rules require a quorum, and the Dems have every right to block the gerrymandering my scooting and depriving them of the quorum.

I can envision no law whereby they'd have to present themselves in the state, or at the state house, and which could pass constitutional muster. So, the Dems are likewise entitled to do what they are doing.
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Entitled to skip on voting for disaster relief for July 4th flooding? How NOBLE of them
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Part of the votes that have to be cancelled involve relief funds for areas hit by the July 4 flash flooding. I hope the Republicans point that out often and loudly.
Dems (as usual) care more about political power than actually helping their constituents.
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As I said it always backfires.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Entitled to skip on voting for disaster relief for July 4th flooding? How NOBLE of them
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Whether its a good idea is a different question. And tacking on things like disaster relief is not fooling anyone as to what its really about.

My point was that it would seem blatantly unconstitutional to me to require the Dems to physically go to X place, by a certain time.
 
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lawgator1 said:
They are gerrymandering, which they have every right to try to do.

But the rules require a quorum, and the Dems have every right to block the gerrymandering my scooting and depriving them of the quorum.

I can envision no law whereby they'd have to present themselves in the state, or at the state house, and which could pass constitutional muster. So, the Dems are likewise entitled to do what they are doing.
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And at best it is a temporary measure considering that Texas will probably add around three more beautiful Red house districts (and EC votes) in the 20230 Census. And even more beautiful is the fact that those will come at the expense of California and New York.
America is turning more and more red every year and the democrats only answer is to continue to oppose Trump in the absence of any real policies or platform. I for one hope they continue on it. 20% in the polls is a wonderful place to abide I hear
 
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Majors said:
The left getting upset at their own game.
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The funny thing about Illinois and California threatening to gerrymander in return is that they have pretty much already done all of the gerrymandering they can. Gotta LIVE the IL Congressional District map
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lawgator1 said:
Whether its a good idea is a different question. And tacking on things like disaster relief is not fooling anyone as to what its really about.

My point was that it would seem blatantly unconstitutional to me to require the Dems to physically go to X place, by a certain time.
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No. If I refuse to go to my job; they will fire me. Texas Speaker should hold them to the same standard. Either show up for work Monday morning or pack up your box and clear your desk
 
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OrangeTsar said:
No. If I refuse to go to my job; they will fire me. Texas Speaker should hold them to the same standard. Either show up for work Monday morning or pack up your box and clear your desk
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Its not within the power of the Speaker, or the Governor, to fire them. And if they tried, it would be struck down before the ink is dry. Even the Supreme Court wouldn't abide that.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its not within the power of the Speaker, or the Governor, to fire them. And if they tried, it would be struck down before the ink is dry. Even the Supreme Court wouldn't abide that.
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It should be. Let’s have a constitutional amendment.
In the meantime, Gov Abbot should set up ICE detention centers at the homes of the runaway reaps since they are now abandoned property 😂
Or Trump could declare an insurrection and send US Marshalls to apprehend them and return them to Texas.
What I can’t believe is that you are DEFENDING an absolutely undemocratic tantrum by the very party that includes the word “democrat” in their name.
Stopping democracy by avoiding it is more an attack on democracy than ANYTHING Trump has done. Wouldn’t you agree?
Wasn’t the whole basis for charges on J6 that they were obstructing government proceedings? What exactly do you call ditching a quorum?
 
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Today’s stock market up-turn driven by the revision in last weeks job report.

www.barrons.com

Markets Rebounding as Investors Buy the Dip on Fed Rate-Cut Hope After Dismal Jobs Data

Stock futures were rising Monday as investors bought the dip in equities, after last week’s weak jobs report appeared to boost the chances that the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates soon. Futures tracking the Dow J
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What if we had these numbers before the fed made their decision ( 2 weeks ago)?
 
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lawgator1 said:
They are gerrymandering, which they have every right to try to do.

But the rules require a quorum, and the Dems have every right to block the gerrymandering my scooting and depriving them of the quorum.

I can envision no law whereby they'd have to present themselves in the state, or at the state house, and which could pass constitutional muster. So, the Dems are likewise entitled to do what they are doing.
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Agree, but why not with try to use it politically or go to court.

This looks weak / childish.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Whether its a good idea is a different question. And tacking on things like disaster relief is not fooling anyone as to what its really about.

My point was that it would seem blatantly unconstitutional to me to require the Dems to physically go to X place, by a certain time.
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You're probably correct in that they can't be charged for running away to prevent a quorum. Forfeit their seats, expelled from the legislature, I can see that being constitutional. BUT what Abbot is threatening them with is felony bribery for soliciting funds to leave and avoid the vote, i find that interesting and very plausible charges. What's the difference in soliciting payment FOR a vote and soliciting payment to not vote?
 
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lawgator1 said:
You equate this...

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To this?


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What in the actual fick is wrong with you?
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Nothing. I hat is wrong with YOU? Is obstructing congressional business illegal, yes or no?
The degree or nature of the obstruction is irrelevant to the definition of the offense.
Both of these have the same root transgression; refusal to accept the outcome of an election leading to the halting of legitimate government business. Stopping a vote by not participating has the exact same effect as a riot. The. Vote. Does. Not. Occur.
I thought you claimed to be an attorney?
 
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