Israel vs Palestinians

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n_huffhines said:
For many reasons, but yeah that's one of them. Israel will never let up as long as there are terrorists to fight.

But I also think Palestinian protests are especially impotent. How can they draw more attention with peaceful protests than they are right now getting genocided, and the US leadership still strongly supports Israel.

Like, what's a voluntary hunger strike going to do when imposed famine doesn't move the meter? We're a year into genocide. 6 months into famine. That's got the power of a million hunger strikes. We're still funding the ethnic cleansing. Hell, the Babylon Bee is making jokes about the starving. They're not going to GAF about peaceful protesters.
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When over 85% of the food you deliver is horded, and then sold back to the people by your leadership it's hard for me to place any more than half the blame on Israel.

For those complaining about people consuming Israeli propaganda, they are blind to the propaganda they lap up. But that's just human nature.
 
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KB5252 said:
When over 85% of the food you deliver is horded, and then sold back to the people by your leadership it's hard for me to place any more than half the blame on Israel.

For those complaining about people consuming Israeli propaganda, they are blind to the propaganda they lap up. But that's just human nature.
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Tells me not to believe propaganda, and posts propaganda.

I gotta see a link on this. ChatGPT couldn't find it.

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n_huffhines said:
Tells me not to believe propaganda, and posts propaganda.

I gotta see a link on this. ChatGPT couldn't find it.

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The UN itself reports that from May 19 to July 29, 2025, 87% of its 2,010 food trucks in Gaza—85% by tonnage—were intercepted. Some by crowds, others by armed individuals. This isn’t an Israeli claim. It’s published clearly on the UNOPS website. Anyone who truly cares about getting food to the...
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I'd seen this linked elsewhere. According to UNOPS it's legit.

Edit to add: if it was raided by armed individuals you can rest assured it was HAMAS or it's affiliated militias. They hate competition, and are becoming less and less popular.
 
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A USAID internal review examined 156 reported aid theft incidents from October 2023 to May 2025 and found no evidence attributing losses to Hamas. Most incidents couldn’t be traced to any specific actor.

www.timesofisrael.com

USAID finds no proof Hamas systematically loots aid; State Department, IDF push back

Report completed in June says majority of aid theft incidents can't be 'definitively attributed to a specific actor,' but acknowledges recipients are unvetted and could be Hamas
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KB5252 said:
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StandWithUs (@standwithus) on Threads

The UN itself reports that from May 19 to July 29, 2025, 87% of its 2,010 food trucks in Gaza—85% by tonnage—were intercepted. Some by crowds, others by armed individuals. This isn’t an Israeli claim. It’s published clearly on the UNOPS website. Anyone who truly cares about getting food to the...
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I'd seen this linked elsewhere. According to UNOPS it's legit.

Edit to add: if it was raided by armed individuals you can rest assured it was HAMAS or it's affiliated militias. They hate competition, and are becoming less and less popular.
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He doesn’t care, he has made up his mind unfortunately.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Most damningly, according to the UN’s own numbers, a staggering 85% of the aid entering the Gaza Strip by truck since May 19 has been stolen. UN policies, Hamas theft, black market greed delay Gaza aid | The Jerusalem Post
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That says since May 19, and the only person in that article attributing it to Hamas is an Israeli professor.

They put Hamas in the headline without any evidence that it's Hamas.

An article filled with lines like this "According to official Israeli sources..." is good for wiping my ass.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That says since May 19, and the only person in that article attributing it to Hamas is an Israeli professor.

They put Hamas in the headline without any evidence that it's Hamas.

An article filled with lines like this "According to official Israeli sources..." is good for wiping my ass.
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Ah yes the armed gangs in Gaza are not Hamas. Very logical

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@n_huffhines

Not a screen shot. Please read the link.

The UN has released a dashboard to allow for monitoring and tracking the aid movement in Gaza.

The link : https://app.un2720.org/tracking/arrived

No wonder the UN stopped delivering aid and left over 900 trucks filled with food to spoil. They can’t safely bring their trucks to their destinations that are in Hamas controlled territories, and yet, they rather pressure Israel and the GHF, blaming them instead of themselves.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That says since May 19, and the only person in that article attributing it to Hamas is an Israeli professor.

They put Hamas in the headline without any evidence that it's Hamas.

An article filled with lines like this "According to official Israeli sources..." is good for wiping my ass.
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You see, unless they’re clearly marked as Hamas members, we can’t prove that it was Hamas doing the stealing. And even if it was confirmed, how could we say they were doing this “routinely” or “systematically”, if we don’t have a written order from Sinwar saying “rob the trucks”?

Therefore, following Huff’s logic, Hamas does not steal aid!
 
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n_huffhines said:
For many reasons, but yeah that's one of them. Israel will never let up as long as there are terrorists to fight.

But I also think Palestinian protests are especially impotent. How can they draw more attention with peaceful protests than they are right now getting genocided, and the US leadership still strongly supports Israel.

Like, what's a voluntary hunger strike going to do when imposed famine doesn't move the meter? We're a year into genocide. 6 months into famine. That's got the power of a million hunger strikes. We're still funding the ethnic cleansing. Hell, the Babylon Bee is making jokes about the starving. They're not going to GAF about peaceful protesters.
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I did a search of how the "little guy" fights the "big guy" because I was curious about the options Palestinians legitimately have. I cannot remember each of the options but there wasn't a lot of them. One i remember is, Guerrilla tactics. Another was peaceful protests because it changes the emotional perspective of others and it garner's support against the bigger, better resourced opponent.
We've seen Guerilla tactics in the ME. Are those working? No.
Palestinians are running out of viable options and Peaceful protest is not something they have done. Note, it doesn't matter what you and I think about "genocide" or "starving". It matters what the Arab nations nearby think.

If you believe palestinians are not going to gain support through peaceful protests, then I have very disheartening news for you. They are doomed. Until either international assistance changes, or they are annihilated, they will continue to suffer badly.

This conflict doesn't end until one group destroys the other.
 
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Dramatic development in the negotiations with Hamas – the talks are on the verge of collapse. A political source told me just minutes ago: “Hamas has cut off contact and is not interested in negotiating. There’s no one to talk to on the other side.”

Another political source said: “Unfortunately, there will be no hostage deal, it looks like this is over.”

All the details coming up shortly on Channel 14’s main newscast.
 
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McDad said:
I did a search of how the "little guy" fights the "big guy" because I was curious about the options Palestinians legitimately have. I cannot remember each of the options but there wasn't a lot of them. One i remember is, Guerrilla tactics. Another was peaceful protests because it changes the emotional perspective of others and it garner's support against the bigger, better resourced opponent.
We've seen Guerilla tactics in the ME. Are those working? No.
Palestinians are running out of viable options and Peaceful protest is not something they have done. Note, it doesn't matter what you and I think about "genocide" or "starving". It matters what the Arab nations nearby think.

If you believe palestinians are not going to gain support through peaceful protests, then I have very disheartening news for you. They are doomed. Until either international assistance changes, or they are annihilated, they will continue to suffer badly.

This conflict doesn't end until one group destroys the other.
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This is what the movement has created in this country.

 
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MAD said:
This is what the movement has created in this country.

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I disagree. People are responsible for their actions. This girl wasn't created because of a movement. This girl chose to bully, demean, and be ugly. This is who she is. All she needs (in her mind) is justification.
....assuming the video is real.

Personally, I am tired of all the slogans, threats, and pussyfooting around. Let's get with it. Either the groups (Hamas and IDF) go all in until the last man is standing or I am done with them. I've got better things to do with my time and energy.
 
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McDad said:
I did a search of how the "little guy" fights the "big guy" because I was curious about the options Palestinians legitimately have. I cannot remember each of the options but there wasn't a lot of them. One i remember is, Guerrilla tactics. Another was peaceful protests because it changes the emotional perspective of others and it garner's support against the bigger, better resourced opponent.
We've seen Guerilla tactics in the ME. Are those working? No.
Palestinians are running out of viable options and Peaceful protest is not something they have done. Note, it doesn't matter what you and I think about "genocide" or "starving". It matters what the Arab nations nearby think.

If you believe palestinians are not going to gain support through peaceful protests, then I have very disheartening news for you. They are doomed. Until either international assistance changes, or they are annihilated, they will continue to suffer badly.

This conflict doesn't end until one group destroys the other.
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You think this is news to me? Why do you think I'm so passionate about this thread?

I believe somewhere around January 2024 I was thinking/probably saying in here the only way this ever "ends" is if Israel wipes them out. Israel's not interested in less control and enough Palestinians are mad enough about their subjugation that there will always be violence from their side.
 
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