Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

#2,801
#2,801
Go Fight Win said:
Per VQ

Just talked to a very reliable source.

Nate ament fell on his wrist in practice.

Told that if Tennessee had a game tomorrow Ament would play.

Hopefully we can simmer down on the ‘he might miss the start of the season talk.’
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The football council made an example of him to show the football team that they mean business. 😳
 
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Vols2DaWall said:
The Boo situation is incredibly frustrating and disappoint and just another notch against modern college sports. This was probably going to be a small stepback year regardless but of course it happened in an area where we were already razor thin.
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It falls more into the maturing of adults in society. He doesn’t have a mature male in his life to tell him he needs to grow up and stand by his word.

As far as step back year, I remember a team that was supposed to have a step back when the greatest college QB left. Lo and behold, they won it all.

I think we will see a revival in this offense and defense because the 2 biggest stars on the team left. These guys will play for each other and do some great things, IMO.
 
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Leeleesteeth said:
Kids that have only been exposed to family members who make a lifetime of bad decisions don't automatically magically turn around when they show up at college. The easiest and laziest thing to do is just toss them aside. At the same time you have to weigh their personal issues against the negative effect on the team. Any of us that worked with these kids for any length of time have long lists of tough decisions that had to be made and long lists of kids who were bound and determined to listen to the wrong people. The Hope is this young man can get his head screwed on right, make amends and turn himself around. Whatever Coach decides, dismissal, suspension for a time, etc I think he has earned the right to be supported by the fans no matter what it does to the "depth chart". What makes it difficult for a lot of programs right now is the Colorado Clown Show that kids are convinced they can run to and feel like coaches relate more to them (BS) and that they will have less accountability (also BS I believe). No easy answers for this situation, and anyone that thinks they have one has never really had to make these kinds of decisions.
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You don’t toss them aside but you have to create a situation of pain for them. He needs people close to him to ask why he is wasting his opportunity and getting out of that situation.

Example, my oldest daughter moved in with a young man that was in the Army in Clarksville, he was a clown. My wife unbeknownst to me gave her $1500 to allow her to rent a property that I had not seen. We go to move her in and it is in the worst part of Clarksville. Next month daughter asks for $250 from my wife to help with rent. Wife obliges.

We go visit her and see the place with 30 different bottle of alcohol and she also gets a new tat. I told her she would get nothing else from us except a room when she loses her apartment. Her boyfriend would have to stay at the barricks.

Moved her in to our house 2 months later. Cut off any funding. If she wanted food she had to to eat at my house and I wouldn’t give her money for gas. That pain of failure helped mature her.

Her and her husband, not the Army guy, bought a house 2 doors down from us. She is a great wife and mother to my 3 granddaughters.
 
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Vols4us said:
Are we not going to talk about this? It is not political.

www.whitehouse.gov

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Saves College Sports

SAVING COLLEGE SPORTS: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect student-athletes and collegiate athletic scholarships and
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Is there really anything to talk about?

Pay-for-play was already “illegal” and went unenforced, and this order doesn’t change that. I like that he’s trying to help, but one executive order won’t fix the mess especially when there’s still no agency with direct oversight like there needs to be.

All it really does is echo the NCAA’s view that athletes aren’t employees. Until Congress passes real laws, nothing changes.
 
#2,808
#2,808
25vol said:
Is there really anything to talk about?

Pay-for-play was already “illegal” and went unenforced, and this order doesn’t change that. I like that he’s trying to help, but one executive order won’t fix the mess especially when there’s still no agency with direct oversight like there needs to be.

All it really does is echo the NCAA’s view that athletes aren’t employees. Until Congress passes real laws, nothing changes.
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Ir was always a publicity stunt
 
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SoilVol said:
NCAA almost needs to require a license to serve as an agent for student athletes. Requires classes and such and say athletes cannot be represented by an agent who is not approved by the NCAA. And charge a phat fee for agents to get approved.

That where theres a professional and operational standard for communication and advising from NCAA and school collectives to athletes/agents.

Also requires collectives to be approved so athletes and schools and donors don't get screwed by sleezeballs.
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Is that what is done in NFL, MLB, NBA, etc?
I agree with you.
 
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25vol said:
Is there really anything to talk about?

Pay-for-play was already “illegal” and went unenforced, and this order doesn’t change that. I like that he’s trying to help, but one executive order won’t fix the mess especially when there’s still no agency with direct oversight like there needs to be.

All it really does is echo the NCAA’s view that athletes aren’t employees. Until Congress passes real laws, nothing changes.
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The government needs to stay out of it as they need to do on most things
 
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itsme said:
You don’t toss them aside but you have to create a situation of pain for them. He needs people close to him to ask why he is wasting his opportunity and getting out of that situation.

Example, my oldest daughter moved in with a young man that was in the Army in Clarksville, he was a clown. My wife unbeknownst to me gave her $1500 to allow her to rent a property that I had not seen. We go to move her in and it is in the worst part of Clarksville. Next month daughter asks for $250 from my wife to help with rent. Wife obliges.

We go visit her and see the place with 30 different bottle of alcohol and she also gets a new tat. I told her she would get nothing else from us except a room when she loses her apartment. Her boyfriend would have to stay at the barricks.

Moved her in to our house 2 months later. Cut off any funding. If she wanted food she had to to eat at my house and I wouldn’t give her money for gas. That pain of failure helped mature her.

Her and her husband, not the Army guy, bought a house 2 doors down from us. She is a great wife and mother to my 3 granddaughters.
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Nice. Totally agree. IF things are accurate I would think suspension, time on the Scout Team etc would be avenues to pursue before you kick him to the curb. That being said, we know at best 10 percent and the staff knows the rest. Trust them to do the right thing.
 
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Vols4us said:
Are we not going to talk about this? It is not political.

www.whitehouse.gov

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Saves College Sports

SAVING COLLEGE SPORTS: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect student-athletes and collegiate athletic scholarships and
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov
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The executive branch executes laws made by congress. He doesn't have the authority here, not so subtly suggested by some of the NCAA and conference leaders.
 
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berryvol said:
It was the spring before he committed to us. She was in his recruiting thread 24/7 for a week or two before Freak had to kick her out. It got ugly for a few days at the end with her going at literally anyone and everyone for everything from asking why he transferred HS to paying him great compliments. She was insane.
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Literally she got mad when I compared Boo to Adoree Jackson. A first rd pick who just got a fat contract with the Giants. Like that'd be a great career.
 
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mrMet said:
The government needs to stay out of it as they need to do on most things
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99% of the time, I’d agree with you. But in this case, we’re dealing with a corrupt and incompetent NCAA that ignored the issue for decades and is now powerless to stop anything. Regardless of how you feel about NIL, what’s happening right now isn’t good for the sport. Look around. Schools across the country are selling their souls to private equity just to keep up with NIL. That’s not sustainable .At this point, some level of government action might be necessary just to keep the whole thing from collapsing.
 
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#2,819
#2,819
I’m sure it’s been discussed but Adidas. Do they have any top programs other than Texas Am and Miami? Seems like a step back
 
#2,821
#2,821
RiseToTheTop said:
what exactly did he do to his knee?

surely not just an ACL?
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Much worse injury than just that.

It still baffles me how we didn’t target more DBs and WRs in the portal windows. And I know we got hood but we needed safety help bad and could have used more depth at CB.

If Boo is gone (most likely), we are a couple injuries away from looking at 7-8 wins. And that’s with a pretty easy SEC schedule.
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
Much worse injury than just that.

It still baffles me how we didn’t target more DBs and WRs in the portal windows. And I know we got hood but we needed safety help bad and could have used more depth at CB.

If Boo is gone (most likely), we are a couple injuries away from looking at 7-8 wins. And that’s with a pretty easy SEC schedule.
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no urgency. what compounds the frustration is we know we have money and resources.
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
Much worse injury than just that.

It still baffles me how we didn’t target more DBs and WRs in the portal windows. And I know we got hood but we needed safety help bad and could have used more depth at CB.

If Boo is gone (most likely), we are a couple injuries away from looking at 7-8 wins. And that’s with a pretty easy SEC schedule.
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We had that safety from Charlotte we were looking at bringing in. Makes no sense we didn't.

Is it most likely Bol leaves and just doesn't play college football this year? Feel like they'll figure it out.
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
Much worse injury than just that.

It still baffles me how we didn’t target more DBs and WRs in the portal windows. And I know we got hood but we needed safety help bad and could have used more depth at CB.

If Boo is gone (most likely), we are a couple injuries away from looking at 7-8 wins. And that’s with a pretty easy SEC schedule.
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man i agree with that. I feel the same way.

never understood the philosophy this past offseason
 
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