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You would think cutting $9B would be easy in DC and not need the VP to break the tie ...

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Vice President Vance had to break the 50-50 tie vote after three Republicans — Sens. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Susan Collins (Maine) and Mitch McConnell (Ky.) — voted against a motion to discharge the rescissions package out of the Senate Appropriations Committee, allowing the full upper chamber to advance to consideration of the package.

 
Senate Republicans and the White House agreed Tuesday to exempt a proposed $400 million cut to global AIDS relief from the rescissions package in an effort to woo moderate senators, such as Collins, to support the clawback request.

If Congress fails to pass the proposal by Friday, the administration would be forced to spend the $9 billion. The House will have to pass the rescissions package for a second time given the upper chamber’s decision to eliminate the proposed cuts to global HIV/AIDS relief. Four House Republicans voted against the proposal when it was initially under consideration.

 
My claim is that Trump himself and the people in his administration have been inconsistent. That is a fact.

Not sure if that’s the case for any admin ever. So I’m not impressed. Definitely not impressed enough to proclaim “conspiracy” nor pretend “they didn’t release the full video!” Because of an issue that’s apparently a nightly issue
 
Not sure if that’s the case for any admin ever. So I’m not impressed. Definitely not impressed enough to proclaim “conspiracy” nor pretend “they didn’t release the full video!” Because of an issue that’s apparently a nightly issue

I'm curious, do you think guys like Patel and Bongino were grifting their audience and they never actually believed any of the stuff they peddled prior to this admin?
 
I'm curious, do you think guys like Patel and Bongino were grifting their audience and they never actually believed any of the stuff they peddled prior to this admin?

It’s possible. Do you believe it’s possible they’ve since seen the evidence and realize there’s no conspiracy?
 
Be more specific. Who should apologize and regarding what

Patel and Bongino for peddling the "conspiracy theories" for years, then promising to expose it all once they become part of the admin, and now shaming their own audience for believing said conspiracy theories that they apparently just used to stir up the base and get support?

I know you are being intentionally obtuse and are not deaf, dumb or blind so don't pretend to be.
 
Patel and Bongino for peddling the "conspiracy theories" for years, then promising to expose it all once they become part of the admin, and now shaming their own audience for believing said conspiracy theories that they apparently just used to stir up the base and get support?

I know you are being intentionally obtuse and are not deaf, dumb or blind so don't pretend to be.

Not at all, I couldn’t pick Bongino out of a police line up. My first post today was literally me being annoyed by Trump’s tariffs.

But I have no problem with them stating they’ll release the files when they get in there and then it seems they did.

I think most people are just disappointed with reality. Reality is never as fun as conspiracy.
 
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Not at all, I couldn’t pick Bongino out of a police line up. My first post today was literally me being annoyed by Trump’s tariffs.

But I have no problem with them stating they’ll release the files when they get in there and then it seems they did.

I think most people are just disappointed with reality. Reality is never as fun as conspiracy.

They didn't release anything new. I'm going to ask your opinion on some specific claims they made.

Do you believe they have tens of thousands of hours of video? They said they did. You would have to believe that the only man implicated in thousands of hours of video evidence is Epstein for this to follow.

Do you believe they released everything they possibly could outside of child porn? They released info that was already public knowledge and made a big dog and pony show of it. They said that was "phase one". Did they do that knowing there was no phase two coming? Why call it phase one if that was it?

They say there is no further evidence. Now Trump says there is additional stuff, but it was made up by Obama and the democrats. Is that now what you believe? That Obama and the democrats made all of it up?


That is what you are asking folks to believe if they follow your advice and take what they say as 100% truth.
 
I can't wrap my mind around Trump and the soccer trophy. How is this real life? What the hell is he doing handing out the club WC trophy? I see all the memes and I checked TWICE to make sure the story is real.

Don't have time to talk about Epstein, but has time for whatever this is.

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Awkwardly inserted himself into the trophy hoist, pocketed a medal, and apparently decided the CWC trophy will remain in the Oval Office (fifa will make a new one for Chelsea). So bizarre
 
They didn't release anything new. I'm going to ask your opinion on some specific claims they made.

Do you believe they have tens of thousands of hours of video? They said they did. You would have to believe that the only man implicated in thousands of hours of video evidence is Epstein for this to follow.

Do you believe they released everything they possibly could outside of child porn? They released info that was already public knowledge and made a big dog and pony show of it. They said that was "phase one". Did they do that knowing there was no phase two coming? Why call it phase one if that was it?

They say there is no further evidence. Now Trump says there is additional stuff, but it was made up by Obama and the democrats. Is that now what you believe? That Obama and the democrats made all of it up?


That is what you are asking folks to believe if they follow your advice and take what they say as 100% truth.

They did release new information. The video being one easy example.

I’m sure they have a lot of videos. Yes, I think the creep liked to video himself.

Phase II seemed to be the video tape

People have been speculating about Epstein for years. No I didn’t think Obama is at the root of this. Rather it’s such a wild story, leading people to want there to be more to it.

Which part of that was unbelievable
 
They did release new information. The video being one easy example.

I’m sure they have a lot of videos. Yes, I think the creep liked to video himself.

Phase II seemed to be the video tape

People have been speculating about Epstein for years. No I didn’t think Obama is at the root of this. Rather it’s such a wild story, leading people to want there to be more to it.

Which part of that was unbelievable

They say they have "tens of thousands of hours" of video and you find it believable one single person is implicated in all that footage. That is unbelievable. We can get into the math if you'd like.

So after the stunt (which is what it was) of the Phase I release where no new info was released, your contention is that Phase II is the release of the jail video with 2 minutes and 53 seconds of missing footage.

I'm glad we agree it is an absurd thing for Trump to claim Obama/Democrats made up the Epstein files. I thought that would be a gimme as something not believable.
 
They say they have "tens of thousands of hours" of video and you find it believable one single person is implicated in all that footage. That is unbelievable. We can get into the math if you'd like.

So after the stunt (which is what it was) of the Phase I release where no new info was released, your contention is that Phase II is the release of the jail video with 2 minutes and 53 seconds of missing footage.

I'm glad we agree it is an absurd thing for Trump to claim Obama/Democrats made up the Epstein files. I thought that would be a gimme as something not believable.

How’s it unbelievable exactly? The man was a creep and enjoyed filming himself with underage girls.

Was the video tape not released separately? They reviewed material. Released some while continuing to review. Then released the video as part of a second release.

Why are you convinced there’s more to this story
 
How’s it unbelievable exactly? The man was a creep and enjoyed filming himself with underage girls.

Was the video tape not released separately? They reviewed material. Released some while continuing to review. Then released the video as part of a second release.

Why are you convinced there’s more to this story

Gee, I wonder what could lead me to believe there might be more to this story and not just blindly believe the bs that comes from our government when you yourself admit Trump is saying unbelievable things about this.
 
You would think cutting $9B would be easy in DC and not need the VP to break the tie ...

From the article:

Vice President Vance had to break the 50-50 tie vote after three Republicans — Sens. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Susan Collins (Maine) and Mitch McConnell (Ky.) — voted against a motion to discharge the rescissions package out of the Senate Appropriations Committee, allowing the full upper chamber to advance to consideration of the package.

It’s always the same clowns who show for votes. Nepotism Murkowski, term limit examples Collins and McConnell.
 
Gee, I wonder what could lead me to believe there might be more to this story and not just blindly believe the bs that comes from our government when you yourself admit Trump is saying unbelievable things about this.

Trump exaggerates and blames democrats for all things. Not sure why that would lead you to “conspiracy”.

Specifically what here leads you there? I can’t imagine both Biden and Trump are covering for whoever you believe they’re covering for
 
Republicans vote to cover for child rapists. Indefensible. The party of diddling kids.
Definitely not a good look for the Republicans as this was part of the campaign. Was the left running cover the last 16 of 20 years by not making it a priority and bringing justice to the situation well before 2016?
 
Trump exaggerates and blames democrats for all things. Not sure why that would lead you to “conspiracy”.

Specifically what here leads you there? I can’t imagine both Biden and Trump are covering for whoever you believe they’re covering for

That's what's unbelievable to you, and not that all the smoke surrounding Epstein, his island, his associates, the stuff with prince Andrew and that "tens and thousands of hours" of video evidence only implicates a single human being? That is believable?
 
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That's what's unbelievable to you, and not that all the smoke surrounding Epstein, his island, his associates, the stuff with prince Andrew and that "tens and thousands of hours" of video evidence only implicates a single human being? That is believable?

What smoke specifically are you talking about?

Epstein was a con man. An important part of convincing others to trust you with their investments is name dropping. So you take photos with every celebrity you can find.

The Andrew claims were only made by one woman. All of the other women named one man, Epstein.

The one woman who named Andrew was not deemed credible enough by the prosecution in the Maxwell case to use as a witness due to numerous issues
 
That's what's unbelievable to you, and not that all the smoke surrounding Epstein, his island, his associates, the stuff with prince Andrew and that "tens and thousands of hours" of video evidence only implicates a single human being? That is believable?
It's absolutely insane that we have dingbats that are just OK with this. It's insane that we have idiots looking at what this administration is saying and taking it at face value. It's insane that apparently we have a person in jail and one dead from suicide for literally apparently doing nothing.

At the very best the Trump administration is full of idiots that can't keep a single story straight. At the very worst they are covering it all up.
 

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