New York City

[SpaceCoastVol]

That involves payment, not theft.

That is stretching things though.

 

[C-south]

That involves payment, not theft.

Lol. Yea, “we’re going to forcefully seize your property and give you what we think it’s worth”.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Lol. Yea, “we’re going to forcefully seize your property and give you what we think it’s worth”.

The Japanese don't have eminent domain. Take a look at Narita airport sometime. At the end of one of the runways is a family farm that the family refused to sell. It has prevented the lengthening of that runway which they really need. The farm though looks like a prison. They built a 20 foot (looks like) concrete wall around the farm and have flood lights on at all hours. But at least they couldn't take it. I wonder how much money would have been made off of it had it been seized. It's very similar to the NIL argument for college athletes if you think about it. You get a pittance for your property, and the .gov makes a fortune.

 

[Orangeburst]

The Japanese don't have eminent domain. Take a look at Narita airport sometime. At the end of one of the runways is a family farm that the family refused to sell. It has prevented the lengthening of that runway which they really need. The farm though looks like a prison. They built a 20 foot (looks like) concrete wall around the farm and have flood lights on at all hours. But at least they couldn't take it. I wonder how much money would have been made off of it had it been seized. It's very similar to the NIL argument for college athletes if you think about it. You get a pittance for your property, and the .gov makes a fortune.

 

[Majors]

Republicans want to help the poor become rich. Democrats want to make the rich poor.
We are not the same

MLK Blvd. never changes in metropolitan ran democratic cities.

 

[EasternVol]

Both were made cheaper by elimination of regulations. Regulations which the government had prior to imposed on those industries.

So they were made cheaper.
They were also made cheaper by the government building infrastructure.

 

[EasternVol]

That is stretching things though.

Did the landowners not get fair market value?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

So they were made cheaper.
They were also made cheaper by the government building infrastructure.

Soooooooo the government created regulations that resulted in high prices for transportation. Then the very same government comes along and removes those regulation and you credit them for making it cheaper.

That's logical. Somewhere. DC maybe.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Did the landowners not get fair market value?

Not if you project out what the government makes off of it over time.

 

[Orange_Crush]

So they were made cheaper.
They were also made cheaper by the government building infrastructure.

Well, it's a good thing you aren't arguing against the statement "Name one thing the government has made cheaper without extorting from someone else to do it".

 

[EasternVol]

Soooooooo the government created regulations that resulted in high prices for transportation. Then the very same government comes along and removes those regulation and you credit them for making it cheaper.

That's logical. Somewhere. DC maybe.

No, that's not what I said. Building the infrastructure is the cost reduction driver.

 

[EasternVol]

Not if you project out what the government makes off of it over time.

Market value at the time of the sale.

 

[EasternVol]

Well, it's a good thing you aren't arguing against the statement "Name one thing the government has made cheaper without extorting from someone else to do it".

Is it good though?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

No, that's not what I said. Building the infrastructure is the cost reduction driver.

Let's compare the high speed rail in California with Brightline in Florida.

We don't know if private industry could have built airports cheaper, I am willing to bet they could have, but the .gov has a monopoly on that. We all know how well their bidding system works. Projects are bid, and when the 'low bidder' can't finish the job for what they contracted, the .gov comes up with more money. So you are half right... I guess. Oh and then there is that SpacEx thing.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Market value at the time of the sale.

They pay way less than it's worth. Because they have the threat of condemnation and expulsion if the owner doesn't take the offer. Take any highway they went to eminent domain to get. How much has the .gov made in highway/gas taxes over the years. They get that property for a pittance.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Republicans want to help the poor become rich. Democrats want to make the rich poor.
We are not the same

Sure Republicans want to help enrich the poor. That's why they deny education, medical care, food aid and demand they burden the tax relief given to the wealthy. You sir are a carnival barker.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Lol. Yea, “we’re going to forcefully seize your property and give you what we think it’s worth”.

Eminent domain is a favorite of donnie.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Eminent domain is a favorite of donnie.

Since when? That was Obummer's baby.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Sure Republicans want to help enrich the poor. That's why they deny education, medical care, food aid and demand they burden the tax relief given to the wealthy. You sir are a carnival barker.

 

[EasternVol]

They pay way less than it's worth. Because they have the threat of condemnation and expulsion if the owner doesn't take the offer. Take any highway they went to eminent domain to get. How much has the .gov made in highway/gas taxes over the years. They get that property for a pittance.

If your property would sell today to a private buyer for a $million, how much would the government have to pay you next week to build a heliport there?

 

[05_never_again]

When I went to New York, it cost 15 dollars for one hot dog. Its already dead, imo.

They don't sell $15 hot dogs in dead cities.

 

[85SugarVol]

That involves payment, not theft.

Ehhh, I don’t want the State forcing on me what they deem to be “fair market value” for my property…

 

[StarRaider]

Ehhh, I don’t want the State forcing on me what they deem to be “fair market value” for my property…

these are the same dufuses that think Mar-a-lago is worth about a million

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[OrangeTsar]

Sure Republicans want to help enrich the poor. That's why they deny education, medical care, food aid and demand they burden the tax relief given to the wealthy. You sir are a carnival barker.

Bark bark. Everything you just said is wrong. You don’t help people by just giving them stuff. That only creates a cycle of dependence and poverty. You give them jobs and self respect.