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My point exactly, Israelis have to keep inventing alternate realities either deflecting to unrelated things like gay rights or deflecting blame to others, rather than grapple with their own depravity. Trying to say anyone but the IDF is responsible when the IDF sees civilian children and unloads a tank at them is cowardly and disgusting
Are you denying that Hamas bombed their own hospital and tried to blame Israel? Are you denying they have shot their own people trying to escape the fighting and at food distribution centers?
 
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Are you asking me?

I have no idea. I hope not. Every president for the last 30 years has said that Iran having nukes would be a danger to Americans. If Iran has been that close for that long, and if those presidents really believed Iran to be a threat to us, we should be pissed at those presidents not taking any action.


I agree that a nuclear Iran is bad. Just something feels off here. Might be just me being overly cynical and distrustful after being lied to for so long...
 
Apparently after expelling the British we could have simply installed a theocracy and then blamed them for the next 50 years or more
 
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You forgot cheap. Extremely cheap

My only concern is our intel has had some major misses the past 25 years. How good is our intel? Was Iran actually just weeks away this time? What about those other times when they were only weeks away?

Hearing our intel almost reminds me of global warming activists. You have 5 years or else and 30 years later, it is trust me this time...
And you forgot sneaky. Never underestimate his sneakiness, Sir.
 
You forgot cheap. Extremely cheap

My only concern is our intel has had some major misses the past 25 years. How good is our intel? Was Iran actually just weeks away this time? What about those other times when they were only weeks away?

Hearing our intel almost reminds me of global warming activists. You have 5 years or else and 30 years later, it is trust me this time...

I understand this sentiment completely, but ... is it in anybody’s best interest to just wait and see if the intel is completely accurate or not? That is the dilemma here.
 
You forgot cheap. Extremely cheap

My only concern is our intel has had some major misses the past 25 years. How good is our intel? Was Iran actually just weeks away this time? What about those other times when they were only weeks away?
Who knows? Were they lies then, but not now? Now but not then? True then and we don't know what was happening behind the scenes to set them back and slow their rate?

Shrug
 
Stopped at a lemonade stand in the neighborhood where my rich boss lives today and bought a glass and gave them a tip because these 2 little girls (6yo-8yo?)were willing to work and be outside with the heat index over 100 degrees. I didn't need a drink but wanted to help a little. Thankful for their parents too, seems like they are off to a good start with these 2.

That said...I was away for a short time and it looks like D4h and others have wrecked the place. Better off arguing with an 8yo girl at a lemonade stand...than with a stranger who lives in an alternate version of reality and therefore refuses to acknowledge basic principles and guidelines.
 
Stopped at a lemonade stand in the neighborhood where my rich boss lives today and bought a glass and gave them a tip because these 2 little girls (6yo-8yo?)were willing to work and be outside with the heat index over 100 degrees. I didn't need a drink but wanted to help a little. Thankful for their parents too, seems like they are off to a good start with these 2.

That said...I was away for a short time and it looks like D4h and others have wrecked the place. Better off arguing with an 8yo girl at a lemonade stand...than with a stranger who lives in an alternate version of reality and therefore refuses to acknowledge basic principles and guidelines.
They're sending the money to Hamas.
 
Gotta say pretty impressive if it sticks and theres actual peace

But the same question remains. wtf happens when the Islamic republic stays in charge and rebuilds their nuclear facilities
 
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Hasn't Iran been weeks away for 20 years?
Not really. They reached 20% enrichment in 2012 and 60% enrichment in 2021. Then when they stockpiled the 60% enrichment that made the time needed to get enough of the 90%(amount needed for a nuke) shorter than starting from scratch. So they were definitely closer than they've ever been after stockpiling the 60% uranium. Way closer than 20 years ago.
 
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