Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[knoxvol52]

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It's a beautiful sight seeing that prediction is t it?

 

[DD4ME]

 

[deatojl]

Yes.
Who also won a National Championship at Auburn with much less talent than those Florida teams.

Would you really argue Jake Frohm was better than Justin Fields too?

It’s absolutely not a stretch to think Cam Newton could have elevated them even more. Not to mention Cam got the Panthers to the Super Bowl. Tebow had Percy Harvin too who was the best player in college football. Tebow was perfect for what Meyer wanted from his QBs.

No, I'm not in any way insinuating that Frohm is better than Fields. I simply asked if his assertion that if Cam Newton was at Florida, he would have been better than Tebow when Cam actually was at Florida and rode the bench behind Tebow. If there is an argument I would make it is that the NFL is, has, and always will be a different game than college. Just because a QB doesn't have massive success in the NFL doesn't mean he isn't a good player. Sometimes, the skill sets just don't translate.

Would you say Brock Purdy is a better QB than Cam Newton?

Purdy, in 2 1/2 years as an NFL starter, has led his team to the playoffs each year, reached two NFC Championship games and one Superbowl. He is only one game short of Cam's total playoff games in his entire career and already has more playoff wins. Purdy also has a better completion %, Avg yds per attempt, TD/INT ratio and QBR than Cam Newton.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

It's a beautiful sight seeing that prediction is t it?

 

[Priddler]

If Josh Allen was surrounded by the level of talent in college Heath Shuler had he would have won the Heisman and a national title at Tennessee.

The reason guys like Allen shine in the pros more than college is because there isn't as big a gap in talent between teams in the pros. This allows individual talent to be more easily detected. Versus in college where an average QB can look like a star if he's surrounded by Ohio State level talent while playing teams like Rutgers and Purdue every other week.

If this were true, then I imagine Allen would have been more highly recruited. I believe I recall him saying Wyoming was the only school that recruited him. Granted, some of that may been where he played HS ball and where he grew up. I, however, tend to believe that scouts find the talent...pros find players more often than not regardless of what college they play for, and likewise, colleges find the HS players.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

In my neighborhood, we would look for any discarded big wheel or green machine. Would strip the back wheels off of them, grab some 2x4s, a rope, and you had a heck of a go cart machine of death. You wonder why ole Darth wears a suit? Because he peeled off most of his skin falling off a homemade go cart doing 30 mph, downhill on asphalt.

There was a big hill, a really big hill, in the neighborhood next to where I grew up. They were just building the subdivision, so there were no houses there yet. They just put the pavement on the big hill road. There was a spring that ran onto the road about 3/4 of the way down the hill. Water was always pouring onto the road there. . . nothing like ripping a little Tecumseh 5.5hp go-kart down that hill in 100 degree heat, then hitting the water and getting soaked. . . it would hydroplane and spin in a circle or two before it stopped.

I hydroplaned one time and the tire caught traction mid-spin. It high-sided me out of the seat like a rocket. I hit the pavement at warp speed and skinned everything from the top of my forehead to the bottom of my feet and everything in between on the right side. I looked like a strawberry for the last 3 weeks of summer vacation that year.

 

[screenthis]

There was a big hill, a really big hill, in the neighborhood next to where I grew up. They were just building the subdivision, so there were no houses there yet. They just put the pavement on the big hill road. There was a spring that ran onto the road about 3/4 of the way down the hill. Water was always pouring onto the road there. . . nothing like ripping a little Tecumseh 5.5hp go-kart down that hill in 100 degree heat, then hitting the water and getting soaked. . . it would hydroplane and spin in a circle or two before it stopped.

I hydroplaned one time and the tire caught traction mid-spin. It high-sided me out of the seat like a rocket. I hit the pavement at warp speed and skinned everything from the top of my forehead to the bottom of my feet and everything in between on the right side. I looked like a strawberry for the last 3 weeks of summer vacation that year.

ah, good times. So many of us attempted things in our youth that could have taken us out.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

ah, good times. So many of us attempted things in our youth that could have taken us out.

All the kids in our "gang" had worn out dirt bikes, bmx's with different wheels, garage sale go-karts, etc. We must've looked like a miniature gang from Mad Max rolling through the neighborhood.

Reminds me of tying a piece of twine to the back of the go-kart so we could pull someone on a bicycle.

 

[screenthis]

All the kids in our "gang" had worn out dirt bikes, bmx's with different wheels, garage sale go-karts, etc. We must've looked like a miniature gang from Mad Max rolling through the neighborhood.

Reminds me of tying a piece of twine to the back of the go-kart so we could pull someone on a bicycle.

Hopefully, kids are still going out and doing those things. We used to skateboard down a hill that was far too steep an ran in to another street. If a car had come up at the wrong time, I might not be here today.

 

[knoxvol52]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It’s not hate. It’s just realistic conversation. I loved that team. I just think there are two lessons from this.

The first is that we give way too much credit to the QB for wins, losses, and championships. That year proved that it’s a team game and they won in spite of subpar QB play.

Second, because we erroneously credit QBs with championships, I think we have, in retrospect, elevated Tee to a player that he really wasn’t. Folks have forgotten how much he struggled as a passer, just completing simple throws. He’s consistently mentioned as an all-time great UT QB, but he probably wasn’t top 10.

Again, not hate. Just reality.

I don't know why this is even debatable..people are stupid.

Tee didn't win that NC, but he didn't lose it either....he made some great plays and helped win games, but he played awful sometimes too and the team won in spite of him.

I used to say when he held it, that the most ironic record in all of sports was him holding the consecutive completion record, when he often couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

That team won on the back of the running game and defense. We weren't winning anything on Tee's arm.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

There was a big hill, a really big hill, in the neighborhood next to where I grew up. They were just building the subdivision, so there were no houses there yet. They just put the pavement on the big hill road. There was a spring that ran onto the road about 3/4 of the way down the hill. Water was always pouring onto the road there. . . nothing like ripping a little Tecumseh 5.5hp go-kart down that hill in 100 degree heat, then hitting the water and getting soaked. . . it would hydroplane and spin in a circle or two before it stopped.

I hydroplaned one time and the tire caught traction mid-spin. It high-sided me out of the seat like a rocket. I hit the pavement at warp speed and skinned everything from the top of my forehead to the bottom of my feet and everything in between on the right side. I looked like a strawberry for the last 3 weeks of summer vacation that year.

My front tie rod broke once when I was screaming around a turn and I went flying into a field of thornbushes at full speed until it came to a stop 10 feet in...I looked like I had been mauled by a whole pack of tomcats.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

My front tie rod broke once when I was screaming around a turn and I went flying into a field of thornbushes at full speed until it came to a stop 10 feet in...I looked like I had been mauled by a whole pack of tomcats.

We rode our bikes everywhere. We also really liked jumping ramps.
We made a ramp at the school. The athletic fields were tiered and so we had the bright idea to jump the ramp down the drop off to the lower field. We could pick up speed down the sloped upper field and soar off the ramp. It was awesome as we would go well over 10 yards in the air.
Everything was great until my last jump. I hit pretty hard on the landing. My handlebars snapped off. I fell forward and wedged my chest between the remaining upright handlebars. Of course then wrecked. My chest remained wedged in the handlebars. My friends had to pull me and my bike apart.
When we looked at the remainder of my handlebars, they had snapped off they looked like knife blades. If I hadn’t hit just right, I would have been dead.
I truly believe that my guardian angel(s) saved me from my own stupidity. After I got new handlebars, I quit jumping ramps.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

My front tie rod broke once when I was screaming around a turn and I went flying into a field of thornbushes at full speed until it came to a stop 10 feet in...I looked like I had been mauled by a whole pack of tomcats.

 

[Orangeburst]

What a slow day..that took 5 minutes to catch up.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Today's RF theme song....




*I was riding my bike down my uncle's freshly graveled driveway, lost control at the bottom of it, and hit a rusted out chain link fence. I needed 13 stitches in my arm, 8 in my hand, tore my shirt, and I was bleeding from most everywhere. I was heading across my uncle's yard to get back to my cousin's house. My uncle was out in the yard cleaning fish and had saw what happened. He hollered at me to come over there. I was dragging my bike, bloody, had a arm full of gravel, and uncle E says "you know what they say, if you're going to be dumb, you better be tough". Thanks uncle E. (I was 11 years old.)

 

[Orangeburst]

my Big Wheel was so worn out it developed a flat spot on front wheel..clump clump clump..finally threw it away.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

*stolt

 

[knoxvol52]

My 8 year old grand daughter just called and said my generation is a bunch of "Snow Flakes" . I told her that her generation was a bunch of over privileged "cry babies".

 

[LaagerVol]

Down the Rabbit hole...

Fail on the Smokey and the Bandit toys. Didn’t get the truck right or the sheriffs car

 

[LaagerVol]

All the kids in our "gang" had worn out dirt bikes, bmx's with different wheels, garage sale go-karts, etc. We must've looked like a miniature gang from Mad Max rolling through the neighborhood.

Reminds me of tying a piece of twine to the back of the go-kart so we could pull someone on a bicycle.

I FINALLY got a 4-wheeler when I was 14. Suzuki 230 with no rear suspension and mostly blown up motor. Bald front tires wouldn’t stay aired up. Smoked so bad my friends always made me ride in the back of the group so I wouldn’t choke them out. But I was happy as could be riding it

 

[SoilVol]

@Purplehaze26 I was driving from Huntsville to Florence yesterday and was alongside a white GMC with Vols Orange GMC logos, a Power T front plate and a UNA license plate.

Just gonna assume that was you

 

[LaagerVol]

I don't know why this is even debatable..people are stupid.

Tee didn't win that NC, but he didn't lose it either....he made some great plays and helped win games, but he played awful sometimes too and the team won in spite of him.

I used to say when he held it, that the most ironic record in all of sports was him holding the consecutive completion record, when he often couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

That team won on the back of the running game and defense. We weren't winning anything on Tee's arm.

Agree but I hate that we are even having this discussion. Just doesn’t feel right

 

[Type Orange+]

My 8 year old grand daughter just called and said my generation is a bunch of "Snow Flakes" . I told her that her generation was a bunch of over privileged "cry babies".