President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[BowlBrother85]

Unnecessary is violent protest. If you don’t like the end result, address the actions that led to it.

They are both unnecessary ..... The ends do not justify the means. This deployment of Marines was a terrible precedent for an American President to establish. It's purpose was completely political.

 

[dalton_vol]

I have already specified that as well. It is not the stated mission of the United States Marine Corps to protect property on American soil. Their deployment was completely inappropriate.

It was appropriate, Trump didn't have to, he could have allowed la to continue to burn which would have made all those communist leaders continue to look bad. He did it to protect the police and the Federal agents.

 

[Vol8188]

Deporting illegal aliens is a popular policy. That's why he was elected.

If you only ask the question the way you just did, yes. And it’s more popular than the Biden policy of never deporting anyone.

But if you actually asked “should we be deporting 80 year old abuelita who has no criminal record and has lived here for 30 years”, it’s not a popular policy.

 

[C-south]

I have already specified that as well. It is not the stated mission of the United States Marine Corps to protect property on American soil. Their deployment was completely inappropriate.

How dare anyone stop ya boys from destroying s***. Guess they’ll have to settle on looting somewhere….like they weren’t going to anyway.

 

[swampfoxfan]

LOL.

That doesn't surprise me.

It's hard to cure stupid

 

[C-south]

They are both unnecessary ..... The ends do not justify the means. This deployment of Marines was a terrible precedent for an American President to establish. It's purpose was completely political.

Cry me a f******* a river. Hopefully he starts actually utilizing them.

 

[C-south]

It's hard to cure stupid

In your case there isn’t one.

 

[dalton_vol]

If you only ask the question the way you just did, yes. And it’s more popular than the Biden policy of never deporting anyone.

But if you actually asked “should we be deporting 80 year old abuelita who has no criminal record and has lived here for 30 years”, it’s not a popular policy.

I understand your point, but we should still deport them. That 80yr man has been sending money to Mexico for 30yrs. He should be grateful to go back and enjoy a low cost of living

 

[whodeycin85]

I have already specified that as well. It is not the stated mission of the United States Marine Corps to protect property on American soil. Their deployment was completely inappropriate.

It's will with the POTUS right to do that and courts agree

 

[Orange_Crush]

Ok. The point was Trump is making exceptions to the law* because of economic need, and you're telling me he's not justifying illegal immigration?

I'd really like someone to give me a response that isn't weird, because I've been told the law matters more than the points I'm making and Trump is now saying a point I'm making is more important than the law. Quite the conundrum.

*because the laws are collectively fkn stupid

What, specifically, has Trump said will be done?

 

[Majors]

They are both unnecessary ..... The ends do not justify the means. This deployment of Marines was a terrible precedent for an American President to establish. It's purpose was completely political.

Protesters can go home at anytime. Political is open borders leading to this. Remember this is what the left wanted, if we are discussing “completely political”.

 

[hog88]

The ends doesn't justify the means. Marines should not be deployed for purposes of domestic crowd control and/or protecting domestic police officers on duty and federal buildings on American soil. This has set a terrible precedent, which will lead to more problems than it will ever solve.

This is one thing we agree on.

 

[Orangeburst]

nm

 

[swampfoxfan]

It doesn't move the needle much for me. feel that democrats allowing illegal immigration to get to this level is the causee.Fixing it is not going to be easy and will look like a mess at times. I don't like utilizing the National Guard/Marines but I also don't like that Newsom pretends that nothing is going on and wont handle his state.

News flash undocumented people have been entering this country since the mayflower landed.
As I have said before a great many come as guest workers and never leave, that's been going on during every administration including trumps.

Having served with the USMC I can promise you a marines duty is to kill enemies not guard parked cars. I hope yourmaga love does include Kent State actions.

Donnie doesn't hate all immigrants, only poor ones, rich immigrants are welcomed. Just takes a 5 million dollar bribe.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Protesters can go home at anytime. Political is open borders leading to this. Remember this is what the left wanted, if we are discussing “completely political”.

Nothing you say here justifies Trump's inappropriate deployment of United States Marines.

 

[BowlBrother85]

It's will with the POTUS right to do that and courts agree

Just because you can do something .... doesn't mean that you should,

This has set an awful precedent, and it completely disregards the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. It will lead to more problems than it will ever solve. It was clearly a political stunt.

 

[BowlBrother85]

nm

The Insurrection Act has not been invoked by Trump. That is the whole point. This deployment is in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, because Trump did not invoke the Insurrection Act first.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Cry me a f******* a river. Hopefully he starts actually utilizing them.

Awww... the intelligence and maturity of the Cult of Trump is on full display now.

 

[swampfoxfan]

I understand your point, but we should still deport them. That 80yr man has been sending money to Mexico for 30yrs. He should be grateful to go back and enjoy a low cost of living

Except if they clean trump property or pick mega donor fruit

 

[C-south]

Nothing you say here justifies Trump's inappropriate deployment of United States Marines.

Since the opposite is always true with everything else you say this makes sense.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Since the opposite is always true with everything else you say this makes sense.

See above post #28,493.

 

[C-south]

Except if they clean trump property or pick mega donor fruit

Guess that makes you far worse than Trump.

 

[swampfoxfan]

And how would that be? Are you referring to your often told lie?

 

[Majors]

Nothing you say here justifies Trump's inappropriate deployment of United States Marines.

So you endorse the violence. Nothing inappropriate about protecting America.

 

[n_huffhines]

You don't fix stupid laws by breaking laws in this country. We have a process of legislation.
I'll try to assist and provide clarity.
Illegal immigrants have bypassed process. The one's in question are willing to go through process for temp work visas. They've met the requirements to be granted that pathway of legal immigration. Therefore they move from illegal to legal status. The law does matter.
You can drive legally and illegally. One is punishable. One isn't. You can also go through process to become a legal driver.

Seems crystal clear to me.

They bypassed the process tho. That's been a deal-breaker for Trump and his acolytes. This is a complete and total pivot.

In fact, I've heard arguments from Trump people to get rid of legals if they initially came in illegally.

Face it, the laws are totally ****ed and we have a madman picking and choosing winners all over the economy through tariffs and immigration policy, etc. Top-down centralized control with banana republic rules, and you're telling me that this passes the smell test because Trump will make them legal? That's precisely my point.