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Vol8188 said:
Why would we be worried about wealthy inequality?

Those who do little and have little skills, should have little. Those who do more, should have more. Inequality is not an issue. It’s a positive
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I agree with the sentiment but the reality is in the past 50 years the average CEO salary has increased like 1000% while everyone else is less than 30%. It’s a real issue but so is illegal immigration.
 
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C-south said:
I agree with the sentiment but the reality is in the past 50 years the average CEO salary has increased like 1000% while everyone else is less than 30%. It’s a real issue but so is illegal immigration.
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I’m not denying illegal immigration is bad. I’m only saying there’s larger issues amount and they use immigration as a distraction while they fill their pockets through corruption. Propaganda is a strong tool
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I’m not denying illegal immigration is bad. I’m only saying there’s larger issues amount and they use immigration as a distraction while they fill their pockets through corruption. Propaganda is a strong tool
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But when nothing was done before at least cracking down on illegals is doing something. The corruption thing is broad and doesn’t just apply to just one party. The paying people a “living wage” will just divert the problem to making everything even more unaffordable and we’re pretty much already there. I think we’re just at a point of no return right now. If you could blow up the stock market, private equity firms, etc that would be a good start.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I’m not against people who work more earning more, I’m against a system that’s rigged against people to where doing more doesn’t always matter. There’s billionaires who make more in 1 day than most people make in their entire lifetime, and those same workers can’t afford healthcare, rent, or free time. It’s systemic failure rigged against the common hard working person. Not to mention tax loopholes the rich take. Right now it doesn’t matter for most people
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Because they get taxed more. Free stuff ain’t free.
 
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C-south said:
But when nothing was done before at least cracking down on illegals is doing something. The corruption thing is broad and doesn’t just apply to just one party. The paying people a “living wage” will just divert the problem to making everything even more unaffordable and we’re pretty much already there. I think we’re just at a point of no return right now. If you could blow up the stock market, private equity firms, etc that would be a good start.
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I agree corruption spans both parties. I’m not a dem. But scapegoating immigrants while billionaires make more and more isn’t really doing something, it’s a distraction. As for living wages, the problem isn’t pay going up, it’s corporations hoarding more and more profits instead of sharing the gains with workers. It’s bc wealth Keeps going up, not bc people at the bottom make a few bucks more
 
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Tomatoe farmers are plowing crops under, no labor to pick and no profitable market due to tarrifs. In the coming months grocery prices will sky rocket.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I agree corruption spans both parties. I’m not a dem. But scapegoating immigrants while billionaires make more and more isn’t really doing something, it’s a distraction. As for living wages, the problem isn’t pay going up, it’s corporations hoarding more and more profits instead of sharing the gains with workers. It’s bc wealth Keeps going up, not bc people at the bottom make a few bucks more
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Why should they share profits? People arent forced to work for a certain company...
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I agree corruption spans both parties. I’m not a dem. But scapegoating immigrants while billionaires make more and more isn’t really doing something, it’s a distraction. As for living wages, the problem isn’t pay going up, it’s corporations hoarding more and more profits instead of sharing the gains with workers. It’s bc wealth Keeps going up, not bc people at the bottom make a few bucks more
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Who’s scapegoating anything? Separate issues require separate solutions and not having a solution to one doesn’t have to keep you from working on another.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Why should they share profits? People arent forced to work for a certain company...
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What? They should share profits bc workers create those profits. I’m not saying CEOs shouldn’t get rewarded but when workers can’t afford rent and the CEO is buying his 5th yacht, that is a problem. Basic survival relies on jobs, it’s not a free market it’s a rigged one.
 
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C-south said:
I agree with the sentiment but the reality is in the past 50 years the average CEO salary has increased like 1000% while everyone else is less than 30%. It’s a real issue but so is illegal immigration.
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The average CEO is running a much larger company than 50 years ago but you’ve also made these numbers up. US salaries are up far more than 30% from 50 years ago
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
What? They should share profits bc workers create those profits. I’m not saying CEOs shouldn’t get rewarded but when workers can’t afford rent and the CEO is buying his 5th yacht, that is a problem. Basic survival relies on jobs, it’s not a free market it’s a rigged one.
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The owners of these businesses are the one who takes the risk in starting them up, not the workers.

You can say you arent Dem but you are one step to the right of Lenin...
 
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C-south said:
Who’s scapegoating anything? Separate issues require separate solutions and not having a solution to one doesn’t have to keep you from working on another
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Scapegoating happens when political leaders and media constantly blame immigrants for crime, job loss, or economic decline while ignoring corporate tax dodging, union busting, and wage stagnation. That’s not working on separate issues, it’s misleading the public to focus anger downward instead of upward. I’m not against secure borders or legal processes I’m against using fear of immigrants to avoid dealing with the actual power structures draining the country and its citizens
 
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Vol8188 said:
The average CEO is running a much larger company than 50 years ago but you’ve also made these numbers up. US salaries are up far more than 30% from 50 years ago
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It wasn’t a number I made up. You can argue where I heard it at did but it’s a pretty believable stat given our current situation.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The average CEO is running a much larger company than 50 years ago but you’ve also made these numbers up. US salaries are up far more than 30% from 50 years ago
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Dak Prescott gets paid 60 million a year. Not because he's great but that's the perceived value he provides....
 
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Vol8188 said:
The average CEO is running a much larger company than 50 years ago but you’ve also made these numbers up. US salaries are up far more than 30% from 50 years ago
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Sure the companies are larger but that doesn’t justify a 300-500X different between CEO and average worker pay. In the 1960s it was much lower, like a 20X difference.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
The owners of these businesses are the one who takes the risk in starting them up, not the workers.

You can say you arent Dem but you are one step to the right of Lenin...
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The CEO of Allstate didn’t start it up. I think he makes like $29 million a year. How many people do you think they screwed over after Helene? What risks has he taken?
 
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C-south said:
The CEO of Allstate didn’t start it up. I think he makes like $29 million a year. How many people do you think they screwed over after Helene? What risks has he taken?
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Over 95% of his compensation is performance based (driven by stock price)....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
The owners of these businesses are the one who takes the risk in starting them up, not the workers.

You can say you arent Dem but you are one step to the right of Lenin...
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I never said business owners shouldn’t be rewarded for starting their company and taking risks. But without workers, there is no business. It’s not communism to say working people generating profit should be able to afford housing, healthcare, and food.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I’m not against people who work more earning more, I’m against a system that’s rigged against people to where doing more doesn’t always matter. There’s billionaires who make more in 1 day than most people make in their entire lifetime, and those same workers can’t afford healthcare, rent, or free time. It’s systemic failure rigged against the common hard working person. Not to mention tax loopholes the rich take. Right now it doesn’t matter for most people
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“Doesn’t always matter”-there will always be people who fail and aren’t necessarily at fault. No system can prevent that. But if people who work hard are mostly rewarded, the system is working.

They can obviously afford rent by virtue of them not being homeless. “Affording healthcare” is a loaded phrase that’s mostly nonsense at this point. Most people have 16 hours a day that they’re free.

It’s not systemic failure. Our tax system is harder on the wealthy and easier on the middle class than most of the EU, the idea that the rich aren’t paying taxes relative to “the working man” is an absolute joke and 100% false.
 
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