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TACO tRump! A little sensitive maybe? lol

Reporter: Wall Street analysts have a new term called the TACO trade.. Saying Trump always chickens out on tariffs…

Trump: I kick out?

Reporter: Chicken out.

Trump: I gave the E.U. a 50% tax tariff. They called up and said, please, let meet right now. You call that chickening out? Don’t ever say what you said
Trumplethinskin!
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Trump responds angrily to his Wall Street nickname: ‘Don’t ever say what you said’

Trump really doesn't like "TACO trade".
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Spatting rich children. Doncha' luv 'em?

Musk Calls Out Trump’s ‘Big, Beautiful Bill’ as a $1.5 Trillion Broken Promise That Hurts Working People

Elon Musk is voicing disappointment in President Donald Trump’s signature spending legislation, calling it a setback…
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"I’m tired of being a whipping boy" ~ fElon
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Elon Musk opens Trump rift and says: I’m tired of being a whipping boy

Head of Doge sends president a message by criticising his ‘big, beautiful’ bill to cut taxes
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VOLLeeann said:
"I’m tired of being a whipping boy" ~ fElon
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Elon Musk opens Trump rift and says: I’m tired of being a whipping boy

Head of Doge sends president a message by criticising his ‘big, beautiful’ bill to cut taxes
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If he hadn't pushed Vivek out and DOGE followed the original plan for streamlining government, everything would've been a million x better for Elon. A whipping is punished for the faults of others. DOGE had its own faults. Trump didn't make him lie about their cuts. Trump didn't make him promise transparency and then fail to deliver. Elon is the one who screamed "massive fraud" 100x and then never demontrated it. Trump didn't hire questionable people (other than Elon) and give them keys to the kingdom. Trump didn't cut national parks staff (an extremely profitable enterprise for the government). Etc.
 
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Trump Considering Pardons for Gretchen Whitmer Kidnap Plotters and calls convictions a 'railroad job'​


President Donald Trump said he's considering pardons for the men who plotted to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

'I'm going to look at it. I will take a look at it. It's been brought to my attention,' he said in the Oval Office on Wednesday. 'I did watch the trial. It looked to me like somewhat of a railroad job, I'll be honest with you.'

Trump claimed there was bipartisan support for the pardon.

'A lot of people are asking me that question from both sides actually,' he said. 'A lot of people think they got railroaded. A lot of people think they got railroaded.'


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Trump considering pardons for Gretchen Whitmer kidnap plotters

President Donald Trump said he's considering pardons for the men who plotted to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
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Orange_Crush said:
Is the quota on # of illegals deported, or gross number of people forced out of the country?

Is the quota placed on ICE (that has a very specific jurisdiction), or the DoJ?

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It would appear that the quota is directed at a very specific jurisdiction, which has nothing to do with imprisoning US citizens, and you ask for the "practical" difference? That pretty damn practical of a difference.


And you are sure the US will have no jurisdiction agreement with another country that offers prison-as-a-service, specifically per our own citizens?

There seems to be a lot of assumptions on your part.
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we, including the supreme court, have established our government no jurisdiction over someone in another nation's prison, and that we can't guarantee due process for them. early on we had the guy deported to el salvador when about the one limitation on his deportation was NOT el salvador. that doesn't build trust for an admin talking about removing habeas corpus.

I am saying when the quota comes due they aren't going to look too hard into who is actually an illegal or not. they are only going to care about hitting their quota. we have seen time and time again this admin revoke various legal immigrant statuses for no real reason.

we have seen this admin skip over the small due process required to deport people, and just shrug when the Supreme Court tells them they got it wrong. its not a leap to see how a citizen can fall thru the cracks of the amazing incompetent government.

your argument relies on completely ignoring the complete lack of competent-ness from the government in general, not just this admin. you are completely ignoring this nations incredibly long history of screwing over not just non-citizens, but also citizens. you completely ignore the words and acts of this administration, including their non Constitutional acts, all just to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

we are driving on tires with no tread left, and you are telling me to ignore the wet roads as a factor because its a "category issue" you can't define as any different.
 
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LouderVol said:
we, including the supreme court, have established our government no jurisdiction over someone in another nation's prison, and that we can't guarantee due process for them. early on we had the guy deported to el salvador when about the one limitation on his deportation was NOT el salvador. that doesn't build trust for an admin talking about removing habeas corpus.

I am saying when the quota comes due they aren't going to look too hard into who is actually an illegal or not. they are only going to care about hitting their quota. we have seen time and time again this admin revoke various legal immigrant statuses for no real reason.

we have seen this admin skip over the small due process required to deport people, and just shrug when the Supreme Court tells them they got it wrong. its not a leap to see how a citizen can fall thru the cracks of the amazing incompetent government.

your argument relies on completely ignoring the complete lack of competent-ness from the government in general, not just this admin. you are completely ignoring this nations incredibly long history of screwing over not just non-citizens, but also citizens. you completely ignore the words and acts of this administration, including their non Constitutional acts, all just to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

we are driving on tires with no tread left, and you are telling me to ignore the wet roads as a factor because its a "category issue" you can't define as any different.
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I'm merely telling you that you are making an argument strung together with compounding fallacies. Period. Slippery slope, category errors, and argument from personal incredulity. At the very minimum.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm merely telling you that you are making an argument strung together with compounding fallacies. Period. Slippery slope, category errors, and argument from personal incredulity. At the very minimum.
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dude you were the one with the fallacy issue, you moved the goal posts, and drug it into a semantics battle without once actually providing your own semantics or basis for your opinion. personal incredulity was the entire spark for this conversation.

the original question was what exceptions I took to the quotas. I explained. and since then it has devolved into some twisted argument of "what is is" because you don't want to admit that Trump COULD do more/worse with this.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:

Trump Considering Pardons for Gretchen Whitmer Kidnap Plotters and calls convictions a 'railroad job'​


President Donald Trump said he's considering pardons for the men who plotted to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

'I'm going to look at it. I will take a look at it. It's been brought to my attention,' he said in the Oval Office on Wednesday. 'I did watch the trial. It looked to me like somewhat of a railroad job, I'll be honest with you.'

Trump claimed there was bipartisan support for the pardon.

'A lot of people are asking me that question from both sides actually,' he said. 'A lot of people think they got railroaded. A lot of people think they got railroaded.'


www.dailymail.co.uk

Trump considering pardons for Gretchen Whitmer kidnap plotters

President Donald Trump said he's considering pardons for the men who plotted to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
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All FBI plots should be uncovered and corrected.
 
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dude you were the one with the fallacy issue, you moved the goal posts, and drug it into a semantics battle without once actually providing your own semantics or basis for your opinion. personal incredulity was the entire spark for this conversation.

the original question was what exceptions I took to the quotas. I explained. and since then it has devolved into some twisted argument of "what is is" because you don't want to admit that Trump COULD do more/worse with this.
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I haven't moved anything. I responded to this objective statement:
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quotas are bad
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With, "Why?".

At which point you began telling me what "they" "will" do. (Hell, go reread. My first several posts were basically nothing but clarifying questions.)


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because they will just begin to make up reasons to deport people. even people who can/should be here.

just like quotas on the interstate lead to people getting tickets after the cop tailgated them for 3 miles in the dark pushing them over the speed limit.

find them, catch them, deport them. no reason to throw in a quota. that is way too big brother for me.
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It turns out your argument is strung together with category errors, slippery slope fallacies, personal incredulity (apparently as explanation of what "they will do").

Sprinkle in some assumptions that if (God forbid) "they" could legally imprison US citizens in foreign prisons, they couldn't/wouldn't negotiate a treaty of capabilities for the US gov't, which was a helluva red herring anyway, since the original quota was given strictly to immigration officials, and not the DoJ, who would be the ones dealing with citizen/prison. (That's another category error you've made--i.e. that immigration's capabilities per an El Salvadoran citizen in El Salvador will the same as a US citizen in El Salvador, likely with signed treaties per the US DoJ calling the shots in that business transaction.)

But to answer your objection, I freely admit they COULD attempt to do any of that, which is a FAR CRY from you telling us what they WILL do.
 
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utvolpj said:
You cared enough to post about it in the recruiting forum and likely cared about pardons 6 months ago. But sure, go with what's convenient today
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🤣🤣🤣 it funny that instead of worrying about the real issues in society. Trump takes it upon himself to pardon a couple of Tax evaders....keep up the great work Donald...
 
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It's also probably worth noting per the "due process" claims that due process only requires the right to file habeas, and not the right to have it heard. Most habeas requests are summarily rejected without being heard by a judge. So, there's really no need for long, drawn out habeas motions in most of these cases where they are blatantly here illegally.

Get them in custody with evidence collected and presented. If they want to request habeas, let them request it, and let it be summarily rejected unless the case presents a good legal reason to grant. Doesn't have to add weeks to the process of deporting an illegal.
 
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