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BowlBrother85 said:
Assuming that's true, the Republicans should have held a Senate confirmation hearing for Garland and then voted down his nomination.

That's not what they did, however. The Republicans used the rationale that it was too close to the election to hold a hearing or a vote for a Supreme Court nominee. That rationale was revealed to be a dishonest excuse 4 years later, when they did hold a Senate confirmation hearing and Senate vote on Any Coney Barrett. It was blatant hypocrisy.
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The R’s should have given him the standard process, and then voted him down.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What specifically is there? There’s no point where he says what you claimed.

There’s nothing wrong about it. McConnell did the right thing in both scenarios.

You found the first article you came across. It has numerous quotes from McConnell and others, but never says what you say it did. If I’m wrong and I missed it in that sea of trash, feel free to screenshot the exact quote and I’ll respond
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Yes, there are!!!! Nobody is this damn stupid. It has to be stubbornness, combined with too much pride to admit when you are wrong .... AND YOU ARE!!!!!

From the article :

"I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say, 'Lindsey Graham said whoever is the next president , whoever it might be, make that nomination." _ Sen. Lindsey Graham in 2016 .... this stated belief was violated in 2024 when he voted to confirm Amy Coney Barrett.

"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president." _ Sen. Mitch McConnell .... this stated belief was violated when he quickly pushed through the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation in 2020, with less than a month before the election.

"Given that we are in the midst of the presidential election process, we believe that the American people should seize the opportunity to weigh in on whom they trust to nominate the next person for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. It is today the American people, rather than a lame duck president whose priorities they just rejected in the most recent national election, who should be afforded the opportunity to replace Justice Scalia." - Sen, Chuck Grassley .... However, Sen. Grassley did not wait for the American people to vote in October of 2020, when they rushed the confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett through, in order to get ahead of the election, when it looked certain that Trump would lose.
 
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Vol8188 said:
He was successful as a businessman in general. The idea that he wasn’t is a joke
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Lol, he was bailed out by investors that he screwed over, just like he screwed over numerous builders over the decades.
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Your fantasy of his business acumen, is just that; fantasy.
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You want to believe the fantasy, because it's the lynchpin to your faith in him.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Assuming that's true, the Republicans should have held a Senate confirmation hearing for Garland and then voted down his nomination.

That's not what they did, however. The Republicans used the rationale that it was too close to the election to hold a hearing or a vote for a Supreme Court nominee. That rationale was revealed to be a dishonest excuse 4 years later, when they did hold a Senate confirmation hearing and Senate vote on Any Coney Barrett. It was blatant hypocrisy.
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The Rs should have brought the vote to the floor in 2016. Im with you here....

With that being said, ACB is probably far less of a hack than Merrick Garland would have been.

We got way too many fringe judges on both sides currently on the Supreme Court...
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol, he was bailed out by investors that he screwed over, just like he screwed over numerous builders over the decades.
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Your fantasy of his business acumen, is just that; fantasy.
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You want to believe the fantasy, because it's the lynchpin to your faith in him.
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Hopefully he can suddenly become a best selling author after his term.
 
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Vol8188 said:
He was successful as a businessman in general. The idea that he wasn’t is a joke
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I think there's a difference between successful and savant. The myth that the right wants to put out there about his business acumen really isnt supported by facts. There is some level of success for sure. The colossal failure the left wants to point out isnt fully supported by facts.

Easy to become a billionaire when you start off with several hundred million. It just is.

His real estate results are actually quite middling.

He is incredible at branding. This is by far his best business trait.Truth Social and the Apprentice are the best examples of this.

If you look at the totality, he is a subpar to middling real estate guy and an expert marketer....
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, there are!!!! Nobody is this damn stupid. It has to be stubbornness, combined with too much pride to admit when you are wrong .... AND YOU ARE!!!!!

From the article :

"I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say, 'Lindsey Graham said whoever is the next president , whoever it might be, make that nomination." _ Sen. Lindsey Graham in 2016 .... this stated belief was violated in 2024 when he voted to confirm Amy Coney Barrett.

"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president." _ Sen. Mitch McConnell .... this stated belief was violated when he quickly pushed through the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation in 2020, with less than a month before the election.

"Given that we are in the midst of the presidential election process, we believe that the American people should seize the opportunity to weigh in on whom they trust to nominate the next person for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. It is today the American people, rather than a lame duck president whose priorities they just rejected in the most recent national election, who should be afforded the opportunity to replace Justice Scalia." - Sen, Chuck Grassley .... However, Sen. Grassley did not wait for the American people to vote in October of 2020, when they rushed the confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett through, in order to get ahead of the election, when it looked certain that Trump would lose.
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Not sure why you gave me multiple quotes from people not named McConnell. The one line you gave was from a tweet. In that one singular line, he doesn’t give much detail on his “why”. If you go to the speeches where he does give his why, he mentions the divided government and how Democrats would not support a Republican nominee under such circumstances. Not that he has some fundamental view that you should just never do such a thing.

That’s not a thing he ever said.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol, he was bailed out by investors that he screwed over, just like he screwed over numerous builders over the decades.
View attachment 743169

Your fantasy of his business acumen, is just that; fantasy.
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You want to believe the fantasy, because it's the lynchpin to your faith in him.
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If you invest in a company that’s public, you see the debt. It’s public. That’s not screwing anyone.

Yes, the ability to show large losses from things like depreciation are a major reason why people invest in real estate. That’s not a negative.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I think there's a difference between successful and savant. The myth that the right wants to put out there about his business acumen really isnt supported by facts. There is some level of success for sure. The colossal failure the left wants to point out isnt fully supported by facts.

Easy to become a billionaire when you start off with several hundred million. It just is.

His real estate results are actually quite middling.

He is incredible at branding. This is by far his best business trait.Truth Social and the Apprentice are the best examples of this.

If you look at the totality, he is a subpar to middling real estate guy and an expert marketer....
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Completely disagree. The idea that it’s easy to continue to grow an already large and successful company is not accurate. It’s far more likely you fail than succeed.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Not sure why you gave me multiple quotes from people not named McConnell. The one line you gave was from a tweet. In that one singular line, he doesn’t give much detail on his “why”. If you go to the speeches where he does give his why, he mentions the divided government and how Democrats would not support a Republican nominee under such circumstances. Not that he has some fundamental view that you should just never do such a thing.

That’s not a thing he ever said.
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For one thing, I have consistently referred to not just McConnell, but to "Senate Republicans."

But yes, McConnell absolutely did say that a Supreme Court vacancy during an election year, should be filled by the President who wins that election. He made that clear in his quote when he said that the American people should have a voice in who selects the next Supreme Court Justice.

So, on top of being stubborn, ignorant, and having too much pride to admit when you are wrong .... your reading comprehension skills are on the level of the average 3rd grader. Or am I giving you too much credit? Probably so.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Assuming that's true, the Republicans should have held a Senate confirmation hearing for Garland and then voted down his nomination.

That's not what they did, however. The Republicans used the rationale that it was too close to the election to hold a hearing or a vote for a Supreme Court nominee. That rationale was revealed to be a dishonest excuse 4 years later, when they did hold a Senate confirmation hearing and Senate vote on Amy Coney Barrett. It was blatant hypocrisy.
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Not sure “dishonest excuse”, is a term liberals should use right now.
 
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