Recruiting Football Talk VIII

I’ve been rewatching a lot of highlights and full games from last year.

It’s given me a lot of confidence going into this upcoming year.

Nico was not good. We literally won 10 games with a liability at QB.

And Dylan Sampson wasn’t an elite, irreplaceable back.

I think we’re gonna be fine in 2025 on offense.
 
I’ve been rewatching a lot of highlights and full games from last year.

It’s given me a lot of confidence going into this upcoming year.

Nico was not good. We literally won 10 games with a liability at QB.

And Dylan Sampson wasn’t an elite, irreplaceable back.

I think we’re gonna be fine in 2025 on offense.
And Dylan Sampson wasn’t an elite, irreplaceable back.

Agreed on a QB. Many issues there. But Dylan wasn't elite?
 
I’ve been rewatching a lot of highlights and full games from last year.

It’s given me a lot of confidence going into this upcoming year.

Nico was not good. We literally won 10 games with a liability at QB.

And Dylan Sampson wasn’t an elite, irreplaceable back.

I think we’re gonna be fine in 2025 on offense.

Dylan Sampson? The 2024 offensive SEC POTY? That Dylan Sampson? From the University of Tennessee?
 
I’ve been rewatching a lot of highlights and full games from last year.

It’s given me a lot of confidence going into this upcoming year.

Nico was not good. We literally won 10 games with a liability at QB.

And Dylan Sampson wasn’t an elite, irreplaceable back.

I think we’re gonna be fine in 2025 on offense.

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Truly just think Nico was a freshman. He worked but relied too heavily on talent. It showed in his reads. He didnt see the whole field, and honestly how many QBs do as frosh/soph?

He wasnt a leader. Wasnt a hard worker (pajama pants), and couldnt handle the pressure of this job.

So, that is why we will be better off:
 
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Truly just think Nico was a freshman. He worked but relied too heavily on talent. It showed in his reads. He didnt see the whole field, and honestly how many QBs do as frosh/soph?

He wasnt a leader. Wasnt a hard worker (pajama pants), and couldnt handle the pressure of this job.

So, that is why we will be better off:

What makes you think he wasn’t a worker? Maybe the kid just doesn’t have it between the ears to play QB in the SEC but is a hard worker.
 
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We need those buck-fifty x-rays back.
I have traveled quite a bit in Ecuador. I travel with a translator who has become a friend. On one trip about 10 years ago he informed me that he had dental problems and did not have extra funds to go to a dentist. I was paying him a fair wage for his service, but he was supporting his wife, children and his own parents.

I told him I would pay for the dentist. I had met a dentist on a previous trip and she examined him. She sent us for a whole set of x-rays at another dentists office. They did a full set of x-rays, developed them and gave us the X-rays for $5. He ended up getting a crown for $35.
 
Dylan Sampson? The 2024 offensive SEC POTY? That Dylan Sampson? From the University of Tennessee?

Yes that Dylan. The 4th rounder, 12th back selected in the draft.

I’m not dumping on the kid. He was great for us but let’s not pretend he didn’t benefit from light boxes and getting the lions share of touches - especially near the goal line.

He holds a ton of Tennessee records but there’s probably 5-10 elite former Tennessee running backs I’d take over him when ranking the best backs in school history.


—- to help make my point - Hendon was elite here and we’ve not been able to replicate what he’s done since. Few QBs have played to his level in school history.

Our run game in previous years and going forward will be able to, for the most part, replicate what Sampson did. Just not by a singular individual most likely due to our tendency to rotate. Which we weren’t able to do entirely last year because of injuries to Lewis and Bishop.
 
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Yes that Dylan. The 4th rounder, 12th back selected in the draft.

I’m not dumping on the kid. He was great for us but let’s not pretend he didn’t benefit from light boxes and getting the lions share of touches - especially near the goal line.

He holds a ton of Tennessee records but there’s probably 5-10 elite former Tennessee running backs I’d take over him when ranking the best backs in school history.


—- to help make my point - Hendon was elite here and we’ve not been able to replicate what he’s done since. Few QBs have played to his level in school history.

Our run game in previous years and going forward will be able to, for the most part, replicate what Sampson did. Just not by a singular individual most likely due to our tendency to rotate. Which we weren’t able to do entirely last year because of injuries to Lewis and Bishop.
I would use the same argument your using for Sampson for Hooker.

Watch Hookers highlights here. 90% wide open receivers and now the Lions are saying the 2nd string position is still up for grabs. Scheme has helped the RB's just as much as the QB's.

I think Hooker could start and be okay in the NFL since his legs don't translate to the practice field, but arguably, Sampson had a more impressive season than Hooker since he was the entire offense and teams did stack the box against him.
 
If this adidas deal is really as high as everyone says, I'm all for it as long as they have their best guys working on our jerseys. But still, all of these "money plays" like Pilot sponsoring Neyland seem to never go towards the actual NIL. If this leads to Tennessee having top 5-7 classes, then I'm all for it. If it doesn't, then the university is going to lose a ton of money in apparel sales. Adidas just doesn't make cool stuff.
 
If this adidas deal is really as high as everyone says, I'm all for it as long as they have their best guys working on our jerseys. But still, all of these "money plays" like Pilot sponsoring Neyland seem to never go towards the actual NIL. If this leads to Tennessee having top 5-7 classes, then I'm all for it. If it doesn't, then the university is going to lose a ton of money in apparel sales. Adidas just doesn't make cool stuff.
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Yes that Dylan. The 4th rounder, 12th back selected in the draft.

I’m not dumping on the kid. He was great for us but let’s not pretend he didn’t benefit from light boxes and getting the lions share of touches - especially near the goal line.

He holds a ton of Tennessee records but there’s probably 5-10 elite former Tennessee running backs I’d take over him when ranking the best backs in school history.


—- to help make my point - Hendon was elite here and we’ve not been able to replicate what he’s done since. Few QBs have played to his level in school history.

Our run game in previous years and going forward will be able to, for the most part, replicate what Sampson did. Just not by a singular individual most likely due to our tendency to rotate. Which we weren’t able to do entirely last year because of injuries to Lewis and Bishop.
Light boxes?!?! I agree he wasn't quite as good as his stats (or he'd have been #1 RB in the draft), but he created so many extra yards after contact on his own. He did not have light boxes at all. Nico should have been the one benefiting from the heavy boxes because Sampson was our entire offense. Sampson's ability to stay up and grind out yards won't translate as well to the NFL where defenders don't let you get extra yards as much, so that's why he wasn't drafted high; but he was an elite college back, especially for a team with an otherwise bad offense.
 
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Truly just think Nico was a freshman. He worked but relied too heavily on talent. It showed in his reads. He didnt see the whole field, and honestly how many QBs do as frosh/soph?

He wasnt a leader. Wasnt a hard worker (pajama pants), and couldnt handle the pressure of this job.

So, that is why we will be better off:
Will truly be interested in seeing how NICO performs in a new system, with less talent, as a SOPH. Though, it's really his third year at the college level.
 
Light boxes?!?! I agree he wasn't quite as good as his stats (or he'd have been #1 RB in the draft), but he created so many extra yards after contact on his own. He did not have light boxes at all. Nico should have been the one benefiting from the heavy boxes because Sampson was our entire offense. Sampson's ability to stay up and grind out yards won't translate as well to the NFL where defenders don't let you get extra yards as much, so that's why he wasn't drafted high; but he was an elite college back, especially for a team with an otherwise bad offense.

Yes, light boxes. We spread defenses so wide and they defend the big play. Even Jabari Small averaged 5.1ypc here.

Jaylen Wrigjt averaged over 7ypc.

Dylan Samson was a very good running back. I’ll always root for him and by no means am I trying to talk bad on the kid. He’s a VFL.

My only point was that we’ve always ran the ball exceptionally well under CJH so imo losing Sampson isn’t going to be something we can’t overcome.
 
Yes that Dylan. The 4th rounder, 12th back selected in the draft.

I’m not dumping on the kid. He was great for us but let’s not pretend he didn’t benefit from light boxes and getting the lions share of touches - especially near the goal line.

He holds a ton of Tennessee records but there’s probably 5-10 elite former Tennessee running backs I’d take over him when ranking the best backs in school history.


—- to help make my point - Hendon was elite here and we’ve not been able to replicate what he’s done since. Few QBs have played to his level in school history.

Our run game in previous years and going forward will be able to, for the most part, replicate what Sampson did. Just not by a singular individual most likely due to our tendency to rotate. Which we weren’t able to do entirely last year because of injuries to Lewis and Bishop.

interesting. My friendly refute:

1) 4th rounder 12th back selected in draft-- proceeds to use Hendon Hooker as the example of elite here (he absolutely was) but Hendon was also a 3rd rounder and has done diddly squat in the league thus far. Plenty agree Dylan's slide was unexpected but it was also a fairly stacked RB class. Regardless, the discussion is not his NFL projection but a retrospective on his career as a college football player.

2) light boxes-- This has been a common refrain on this website. The NFL draft smartguys mentioned it once and we ran with it. They mentioned it as a generality but in fact, if you re-watch the games, we often faced a fairly stacked box in rushing downs, especially in SEC play (where Dylan dominated) once teams realized Nico was a high sack % target. See: Vandy, UGA, BAMA, UK, UF games if you need proof. In fact, we faced a heavier box on average than other teams if you take out the OU and Arkansas game where their gameplan was specifically a 3-2-6 light box. Interestingly, OU game was one of 3 total games he failed to eclipse 100 yards.

3) goal line touches-- staple of CJH/ any sane coach is to have your 5.8 ypc RB punch the ball in near the goal line. (???) I don't have any further retort on that one...

4) He holds a ton of Tennessee records-- Yeah, that guy was so good at football. Friggin awesome.

5) 5 to 10(that's a big swing) of backs you'd take over him?-- Well, sure. Gene McEver over Dylan Sampson, why not. We have had probably 15 or so ELITE running backs come through our school, Dylan Sampson being one of them. Not sure it will ever make sense to pick a running back over another since you have to take the style of play and context of the generation they are playing into consideration, but you do you.

6) replicating the success of an elite quarterback less than 3 years since he moved on from the program is a bit soon, no?

7) Our run game in previous years and going forward will be able to, for the most part, replicate what Sampson did. Just not by a singular individual most likely due to our tendency to rotate. We agree here.

I dunnnooooo man I really agree w you on the quarterback issues but Dylan was a damn monstar last year
 
Truely hope you end up in a better place. What you described above was in line with what I meant. Don’t just resign because your new boss is a tool. Instead keep doing your job to the best of your ability and force him to fire you (unjustly). Don’t make it easy on him.
There are other ways to deal with a detestable employer.
 
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Not always this extreme

When I first got married wife was folding towels. I showed her how I always folded mine and response was “I don’t like that, I will fold the towels”…. Ok. Fast forward a few years, I come home one day and wife is excited that my daughter showed her a new way to fold towels. This was the way she was going to fold them moving forward. It was the way I had shown her when we first got married.
 

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