Trade Wars and Tariffs

[NashVol11]

 

[mrorange211]

Uhhhh
Well that’s Fing stupid.
How about instead of ignoring one guys crimes because another guy committed them too…..we stop electing criminals!!!!

Gawd all mighty

The point was that it's just back and forth, much like you stated with tennis. The ones who were the loudest here about Biden's corruption are defensive about Trump's. Polarization creates inconsistency.

 

[dalton_vol]

I've always been a fan of pilot games. I mean, what is better to immerse yourself in from a gaming perspective? There just isn't as much development there as could be possible. The Ace Combat series is good, and I've recently been playing some of the Star Wars Squadron game. I've seen VR setups that look very cool, but i haven't taken the plunge beyond an Oculus. I just don't have the time to really invest in video games right now without sacrificing other interests.

I would like to try the virtual flying games, I bet they're pretty sweet.

 

[GVF]

I would guess you've enjoyed the opportunities of the last couple of months, then. These huge swing cycles only come around every so many years, but the gains are really fun. Maybe consider a nice iRacing setup with your profits?

I'm about to have two in college and a 3rd with a very expensive extra-curricular activity.... but there's still a little gravy for a cool new gun or guitar in there.

Gotta be travel ball.

 

[jmacvols1]

U.S.-U.K. Trade Deal Expected To Leave 10% Universal Tariffs In Place, Focus On Future Commitments | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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"Yet another signal that the trade war has hit its peak came overnight, as President Trump took to Truth Social to tease a "big news conference" Thursday morning, where he plans to unveil a "major deal." As U.S. markets began coming online, Trump continued promoting what he called "a very big and exciting day" for U.S.-U.K. trade.

Late Thursday night, the president wrote on Truth Social:

Big News Conference tomorrow morning at 10:00 A.M., The Oval Office, concerning a MAJOR TRADE DEAL WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF A BIG, AND HIGHLY RESPECTED, COUNTRY. THE FIRST OF MANY!!!

Around 0542 ET, he posted again:

This should be a very big and exciting day for the United States of America and the United Kingdom. Press Conference at The Oval Office, 10 A.M. Thank you!

Trump continued in a separate post around 0608 ET:

The agreement with the United Kingdom is a full and comprehensive one that will cement the relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom for many years to come. Because of our long time history and allegiance together, it is a great honor to have the United Kingdom as our FIRST announcement. Many other deals, which are in serious stages of negotiation, to follow!"

 

[Ashevolle]

You’re naive if you think we have statesmen. Who are they?

Nice deflection.

So you expect me to defend a position I didn't take? Lulz.

But you didn't deny Trump is a simple troll and anything but a statesman, so I guess we'll just agree to agree.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The point was that it's just back and forth, much like you stated with tennis. The ones who were the loudest here about Biden's corruption are defensive about Trump's. Polarization creates inconsistency.

Seems to me there are more than a few that call out both sides for criminal activity
Off the top of my head these are guys I know have called out both presidents Biden and Trump…..
@utvolpj
@McDad
@volfanhill
@BigOrangeMojo
@LouderVol
@Vol737
@Vol423
@hogg88
And several others….




I’m just extremely tired of the “oh yeah, well your guy is .000001% worse” bull **** that gets thrown around by the hacks.

 

[mrorange211]

Alright. I don't think we disagree. There are some who do not participate in the tribalism. I would say that the crypto stuff is more that ".000001%" worse, but maybe that's just me?

 

[Velo Vol]

Alright. I don't think we disagree. There are some who do not participate in the tribalism. I would say that the crypto stuff is more that ".000001%" worse, but maybe that's just me?

It's grift on a scale unimaginable to any previous president. The current market cap, for something he created out of thin air right before inauguration, is $2B. This for something that has no real world value, other than to speculators and people (many of them foreign) trying to buy influence.

 

[mrorange211]

This has already been shown to be problematic.

Chinese entrepreneur sued for fraud invests $30 million in Trump crypto venture​

 

[Ritzwatch]

I'm about to have two in college and a 3rd with a very expensive extra-curricular activity.... but there's still a little gravy for a cool new gun or guitar in there.

Gotta be travel ball.

I hear ya.

One in college (so no travel ball anymore) and one soon to be college-aged (who shoots every chance he gets), but the most expensive is the one who said he wanted a new leg for Christmas!

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Nice deflection.

So you expect me to defend a position I didn't take? Lulz.

But you didn't deny Trump is a simple troll and anything but a statesman, so I guess we'll just agree to agree.

I said that he was trolling the Hollywood elites in the post that you jumped on. And it’s glorious.

You posted “Thank God that we have a troll in the White House INSTEAD of a statesman” but you’ve failed to name even one statesman. Kamala? Joe? Gavin? Pete? AOC? Kind of looks to me like you took a position.

 

[NashVol11]

Good luck with the "shared sacrifice" idea, we saw how well people handled that during COVID

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Rep. David Joyce on Trump saying girls should have fewer dolls: "The idea that the Christmas trade is already starting to slow down and there might be less around, I get it. I think the American people will understand that because the American people understand shared sacrifice."

bsky.app

 

[utvolpj]

Good luck with the "shared sacrifice" idea, we saw how well people handled that during COVID

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Rep. David Joyce on Trump saying girls should have fewer dolls: "The idea that the Christmas trade is already starting to slow down and there might be less around, I get it. I think the American people will understand that because the American people understand shared sacrifice."

bsky.app

Both are policies of an abusive govt. This is central planning which should be opposed. Covid was the largest theft of wealth in history. There is no shared sacrifice in either

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

It's grift on a scale unimaginable to any previous president. The current market cap, for something he created out of thin air right before inauguration, is $2B. This for something that has no real world value, other than to speculators and people (many of them foreign) trying to buy influence.

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$2.5 billion market cap isn’t very large. How should it be valued? Every new business begins with nothing. Amazon. Apple. Netflix. Facebook/Meta.

Official Trump was created when he wasn’t the POTUS. So the influence peddling accusation rings hollow. Also, he knows that his participation will be scrutinized like no other, so I’m bet that it’s being built following the letter of the law.

Trump’s a promoter, a brand, an entrepreneur, a developer. What other office holders should be limited in their business dealings? Law is the profession of most members of Congress. AND THEY’RE MAKING THE LAWS.

 

[mrorange211]

Official Trump was created when he wasn’t the POTUS. So the influence peddling accusation rings hollow.

No it doesn't. There are certain ethical standards that have been tradition for Presidents since Washington. One of them is dissascoiating from these kind of business activities in the interest of intergrity of the office. As if we judge whether something is ethical based on it's codification anyway? This is corruption, codified or not. I don't understand why you defend it.

Law is the profession of most members of Congress. AND THEY’RE MAKING THE LAWS.

I am sure you feel the same way about the numerous executive orders that circumvent Congressional authority.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

No it doesn't. There are certain ethical standards that have been tradition for Presidents since Washington. One of them is dissascoiating from these kind of business activities in the interest of intergrity of the office. As if we judge whether something is ethical based on it's codification anyway? This is corruption, codified or not. I don't understand why you defend it.


I am sure you feel the same way about the numerous executive orders that circumvent Congressional authority.

It’s also a tradition to not arrest and attempt to lock up presidential candidates with made up criminal charges.

Crypto isn’t going away. And it’s a viable industry. I’d bet that after the dust settles Official Trump will be more legit than most. Also, is there even a pump and dump scheme happening as is being suggested or could it be early entrants to the business willing to pay a premium for their share of participation?

Maybe the anti-Trumpers should wait until there’s a provable crime instead of trying to throw him under the jail because it COULD be corrupted. As usual, the politicians on the left and their MSM allies are making **** up that hasn’t happened. But their gullible base believes what they’re being fed and aren’t reading beyond the shock value headlines.

 

[mrorange211]

It’s also a tradition to not arrest and attempt to lock up presidential candidates with made up criminal charges.

I dont defend this and never have.

I’d bet that after the dust settles Official Trump will be more legit than most.

His past business dealings, such as Trump University among others, definitely inspires this level of trust.

Maybe the anti-Trumpers should wait until there’s a provable crime instead of trying to throw him under the jail because it COULD be corrupted.

I've already linked evidence that is pointing directly to corruption. This doesn't even account for the dinner he is having next week at 1.5 million a plate that is directly linked to buying of the TRUMP coin.

But their gullible base believes what they’re being fed and aren’t reading beyond the shock value headlines.

Their gullible base is no more gullible than anyone else that uses the MSM for news on the other side.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[mrorange211]

I am not against any trade deals that grant more favor to America. The issue has been with the approach and we'll see if there is any progress with China this weekend in Geneva. I would say a trade deal there is considerably more important.

 

[NashVol11]

No one said it was impossible to agree with a country that we have a trade surplus with lol

 

[n_huffhines]

No it doesn't. There are certain ethical standards that have been tradition for Presidents since Washington. One of them is dissascoiating from these kind of business activities in the interest of intergrity of the office. As if we judge whether something is ethical based on it's codification anyway? This is corruption, codified or not. I don't understand why you defend it.


I am sure you feel the same way about the numerous executive orders that circumvent Congressional authority.

Historically, it's normal for presidents to divest to avoid controversy.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I dont defend this and never have.

His past business dealings, such as Trump University among others, definitely inspires this level of trust.

I've already linked evidence that is pointing directly to corruption. This doesn't even account for the dinner he is having next week at 1.5 million a plate that is directly linked to buying of the TRUMP coin.

Their gullible base is no more gullible than anyone else that uses the MSM for news on the other side.

“Pointing directly to corruption”. What does that even mean? Your CNBC link is distorted facts, innuendo, and left leaning sources yelling corruption. In other words, not factual.

The dinner is for the largest investors and the proceeds are going to a PAC. But the story is constructed to appear as if the money is going directly into Trump’s pocket.

 

[mrorange211]

What does that even mean?

You're being obtuse for the sake of the argument. I'll move on.

 

[NashVol11]

“Pointing directly to corruption”. What does that even mean? Your CNBC link is distorted facts, innuendo, and left leaning sources yelling corruption. In other words, not factual.

The dinner is for the largest investors and the proceeds are going to a PAC. But the story is constructed to appear as if the money is going directly into Trump’s pocket.

So the people that bought the most Trump crypto get direct access to the leader of the free world that they wouldn't otherwise have, and you are saying that's NOT corrupt? I admire your dedication