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just bob said:
They really screwed up that wording 160 years ago.
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No ... they didn't.

It is crystal clear that if you are born on American soil to parents who are under the jurisdiction of American law, you are an American citizen. The citizenship status of your parents does not matter. They just can't have diplomatic immunity or be under immunity granted to Native Americans.

Your idiocy is the only thing more clear.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No ... they didn't.

It is crystal clear that if you are born on American soil to parents who are under the jurisdiction of American law, you are an American citizen. The citizenship status of your parents does not matter. They just can't have diplomatic immunity or be under immunity granted to Native Americans.

Your idiocy is the only thing more clear.
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I gave you a second chance to comprehend, my dude. Take another look....
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
He is much better than both But you all will not allow him to inact them throwing up hypocritical defenses.

We knew this would happen…..the Democrats will not allow him to inact his policies because they will be proven to be correct. Therefor, the Dems and their policies will continue to be seen as out of touch. This is proven by looking at approval rates for Liberals and their leaders. Also, what are the alternative solutions coming from the Democrats? TDS.

Keep living on the 20% side of 80/20 and we will be fine.
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The Dems won't allow him to enact the policies? Are you aware Republicans control Congress? Are you aware the Senate just voted against a bill taking tariff policy away from him? 50-49
 
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just bob said:
Negative. We're one of a few countries that allow that crap. It was definitely written poorly. Anchor babies need to stop. Communities, societies, countries that care about themselves would never allow that.
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You may not like it .... but it was written in a crystal clear manner. There is no wiggle room. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't clear and concise. The case of the United States v. Wong Van Ark from 1898 has stood for 127 years as a clear precedent in this matter.

It can be amended, and I wouldn't even be opposed to that, but not by way of an executive order. It will have to go through the Constitutional Amendment process. Trump can not do this unilaterally, nor should any President be allowed to alter the Constitution with one stroke of a pen. If that executive order is allowed to stand, then the United States Constitution isn't worth the paper its printed on.

Who is really deranged here? The Trump Cult ... That's who. You would defend Trump for anything. It's ridiculous.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You may not like it .... but it was written in a crystal clear manner. There is no wiggle room. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't clear and concise. The case of the United States v. Wong Van Ark from 1898 has stood for 127 years as a clear precedent in this matter.

It can be amended, and I wouldn't even be opposed to that, but not by way of an executive order. It will have to go through the Constitutional Amendment process. Trump can not do this unilaterally, nor should any President be allowed to alter the Constitution with one stroke of a pen. If that executive order is allowed to stand, then the United States Constitution isn't worth the paper its printed on.

Who is really deranged here? The Trump Cult ... That's who. You would defend Trump for anything. It's ridiculous.
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No, it was poorly written. It was never, ever meant to include the world's trash to deposit their anchor here. Doesn't matter if you don't like that. I get that you hate this country and want to watch it burn to the ground, hence your stupid positions. It was written poorly, it should have been written better.
 
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just bob said:
No, it was poorly written. It was never, ever meant to include the world's trash to deposit their anchor here. Doesn't matter if you don't like that. I get that you hate this country and want to watch it burn to the ground, hence your stupid positions. It was written poorly, it should hav
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What makes you think he hates this country? Damn
 
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swampfoxfan said:
I really give a rats ass what you believe. My son was our 2nd child, her ob went for his one month vacation to the states and never returned. As she was due any moment the ships doctor obtained permission from the CO to allow her to birth on board the Coronado. He does have a certified copy of the ships log entry. Enough to get him into the Marine Corp but not enough to keep him from being deported according to magas. Or to vote.
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😂
 
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just bob said:
No, it was poorly written. It was never, ever meant to include the world's trash to deposit their anchor here. Doesn't matter if you don't like that. I get that you hate this country and want to watch it burn to the ground, hence your stupid positions. It was written poorly, it should have been written better.
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LOL.

It was written clearly for those who can read and understand the English language.

The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment plainly grants citizenship to all persons born or naturalized in the United States of America, and subject to its jurisdiction. That means that a person born on American soil is granted citizenship of the United States and the state in which they reside, as long as they are subject to prosecution under American law .... which both the child and their parents would be, if they were to ever break the law. For the most part, the only people who birthright citizenship does not apply to, are foreign diplomats. Illegal aliens are prosecuted all the time for violating American law, as they should be. That is part of what makes the 14th Amendment so clear, and your arguing the point so stupid.

Something isn't poorly written, just because you don't like it. Grow up.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

It was written clearly for those who can read and understand the English language.

The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment plainly grants citizenship to all persons born or naturalized in the United States of America, and subject to its jurisdiction. That means that a person born on American soil is granted citizenship of the United States and the state in which they reside, as long as they are subject to prosecution under American law .... which both the child and their parents would be, if they were to ever break the law. For the most part, the only people who birthright citizenship does not apply to, are foreign diplomats. Illegal aliens are prosecuted all the time for violating American law, as they should be. That is part of what makes the 14th Amendment so clear, and your arguing the point so stupid.

Something isn't poorly written, just because you don't like it. Grow up.
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Negative. Countries that care about themselves don't allow anchor babies. It was written poorly. Just because you hate this country doesn't mean it is correct. Your hatred is clouding your judgment, not surprisingly.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Jonathan Turley, Greg Jarrett , Shannon Bream, Emily Campagnio, Keri Urbahn, as well as Harold Ford.
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shepherdexpress.com

'Impossible': Fox News Analyst Agrees after Judge Smacks Down Trump Citizenship Ban

Fox News admits that Trump’s plan to outlaw birthright citizen runs contrary to U.S. Constitution.
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As for Jonathan Turley :

The above article was the very first link that I came across.

In that article, Jonathan Turley gives two significant quotes. First, he says :

"The Supreme Court can, of course, change the interpretation of the 14th Amendment, although I would still say that that is unlikely."

AND THEN, HE SAYS ....

"It's been determined that anybody who is in this country who's not working as a diplomatic attache or something like that, or working diplomatically for an embassy, if they have a child in the United States, that child is an American citizen. This has been the longstanding precedent that the Supreme Court has followed. So it was virtually impossible that the Trump administration could prevail in the lower courts because they would feel bound by case law."

-- Jonathan Turley
 
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Also, I highly doubt that Harold Ford Jr. argued that the Supreme Court would change the interpretation of the 14th Amendment .... not that his opinion matters.

Harold Ford Jr. is not an attorney. Everyone knows he flunked the bar exam so bad, he couldn't retake it. Bob Corker's campaign made a big issue of that during the 2006 Tennessee Senate race.
 
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just bob said:
Negative. Countries that care about themselves don't allow anchor babies. It was written poorly. Just because you hate this country doesn't mean it is correct. Your hatred is clouding your judgment, not surprisingly.
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It was written in a very clear and concise manner. You aren't even specifying reasons as to why it was supposedly written poorly. You are only giving reasons for why you don't like it. That is childish of you. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it was written poorly. Grow up.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I was written in a very clear and concise manner. You aren't specifying why it was supposedly written poorly. You are only giving reasons for why you don't like it. That is childish of you. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it was written poorly. Grow up.
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FFS. Are you a chick? You have to be a chick.
 
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