Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[DD4ME]

Flattering

 

[itsme]

I think Big Nic obviously calls the shots and controls his sons. However, day to day decisions on how to conduct himself and interact with his teammates falls on Nico. Glad it's over. Urge people to look to the future and move on. Aguilar, Merk, and Mac give the Vols three talented, apparently high character options that will be fun to watch develop.

I think it was Adam Sparks that said that the last 2 months Nico had been a joy to deal with because his dad and Landers weren't around butting into every situation. Nico is a young man that thinks his dad hangs the moon. Nico is someone who is quiet and his dad has always been the typical travel ball dad claiming he's that good because of what he (Nic) did. Living life vicariously through his sons.

 

[Orange.]

People fretting over the baseball team make me laugh. We are on pace to lose two more SEC games than last year. We need to be playing our best baseball when we hit regionals and we will be fine.

Yes the fretting and worse. Irritatingly people do that in every sport. Hysteria addicts imo.

But I checked day before yesterday and we had exactly the same record overall and also in SEC play as we did last year, unless a made a mistake.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[Jackcrevol]

Hard to argue

23...





minutes...




of misses.

Equal to about 100 points.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I actually know someone who's recently become involved in UT sports (no insider knowledge just in the building). He told me in February Nico was a gigantic douchebag and that was pretty consensus. Doesn't mean much but I found it disappointing then, now it just makes sense.

 

[Vol423]

Flattering

I think that's a good comp passing-wise and team cancer-wise (poor leadership). Manziel was a FAR better runner.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Great sport. I was chasing a bee with a racket and ran into my driveway flailing away and I tripped and went azz over teakettle spraling around in my driveway. I got up and thought, "I really hope none of the neighbors are seeing this.

Someone has it on ring cam,

 

[Orange_Crush]

One of my guitars has a terrible buzz in the strings. I asked my luthier what he thought, and he said he wouldn't fret it.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

What happened to Kirk’s eyes?

Stared into @TN-POSSUM 's big brown eye too long.

It wasn't my big brown eye.......

 

[KB5252]

Lowe is the main spokes person for UT and they provide him with info. I can guarantee everything he is saying is from UT without us having to say a word.

This, he has earned the respect and trust of this program over the years. If info is going to be released for national consumption, that's the person it would go through.

 

[Adam2014]

I am curious about the legality of it, though. It seems like every case a player has filed against the NCAA has gone in their favor. Now that I think about it, though, is the NCAA who they would sue? Or a university? Hell, now I am confused LOL

 

[rikberry31]

Someone has it on ring cam,

No doubt. It will probably come up during my competency hearing. "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, this video clearly shows that the defendant is raving and chasing apparitions."

 

[Vol423]

I am curious about the legality of it, though. It seems like every case a player has filed against the NCAA has gone in their favor. Now that I think about it, though, is the NCAA who they would sue? Or a university? Hell, now I am confused LOL

Penalties for breach of contract are 100% normal business. It is absolutely legal. It just takes someone with the cajones to enforce the penalty clause. If there is no penalty clause in the contract, I think a collective would still have a good chance of winnning in court.

 

[KB5252]

Yeah? Me too. Dobbs over Pavia? Probably so. The debate would be Bray or Pavia and Milton or Pavia. Pavia's a pretty good college QB. Guess we can piss about these hypotheticals until September.

I wouldn't take Pavia over Bray or Milton. Pavia goes to other teams in this league and he's the 2nd or 3rd guy in the room. He's a very system specific QB.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

According to (I assume) Big Nic, who I trust about as far as I could throw

And no offense, but I bet you couldn't throw big Nic an inch...

 

[itsme]

Somebody better get a handle on this NLI money, or it’s gonna get so much worse.

My solution:
-Everyone has 5 Years to play
- your original contract is set until you graduate. If you graduate in 3 or 4 years you become a "graduate free agent" and your remaining years are on a year to year basis. You can transfer without penalty.
-if you transfer within your original contract before graduating you either pay back 50% of your net pay from the previous year or sit 1 full calendar year from your transfer date.

There has to be something to calm these guys down.

 

[screenthis]

I think that's a good comp passing-wise and team cancer-wise (poor leadership). Manziel was a FAR better runner.

Johnny Manziel is not currently playing professional football. Instead, he is a sports betting analyst and has launched a podcast series called "Glory Daze". He also spends time golfing and enjoying family life.

Good lawd. What a fall.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Hard to argue

Missing on a relatively easy 40 yard touchdown is just as impactful as throwing an interception. 100% agree with that.

He's gonna throw some picks. I just don't think it will be a massive issue. Heupel is not asking his QBs to do complex reads. The wide splits are a big part of that. He's also never going to throw the ball 40 times in a game this year.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Crazy to me that someone is debating taking

40 games & 58.4% 6716 passing yards, 59 TDs, 19 INTs with 461 carries for 2232 yards and 21 TDs

over

37 games & 61.5% 7138 passing yards, 53 TDs, 29 INTs with 438 carries for 2160 yards and 32 TDs

 

[knoxvol52]

Johnny Manziel is not currently playing professional football. Instead, he is a sports betting analyst and has launched a podcast series called "Glory Daze". He also spends time golfing and enjoying family life.

Good lawd. What a fall.

And his ex wife left Johnny for Nick Cannon.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Ball knower

Loved this and the dig at Nico for Arkansas was gold!

 

[volsfan_17]

My solution:
-Everyone has 5 Years to play
- your original contract is set until you graduate. If you graduate in 3 or 4 years you become a "graduate free agent" and your remaining years are on a year to year basis. You can transfer without penalty.
-if you transfer within your original contract before graduating you either pay back 50% of your net pay from the previous year or sit 1 full calendar year from your transfer date.

There has to be something to calm these guys down.

The detailed rationale around contract language is the easy part (I like you ideas for the record). The hard part is getting the sport to a place where contracts are allowed/agreed upon.

 

[SpringBokVol]

My question on this is the NIL money paid up front or paid monthly?

If paid monthly, fine - stop paying.

If paid up front or if you have paid for services not yet rendered then by all means claw back some of the money.

Under the contract, I beleive the athlete should get paid for whatever they committed to and completed. Nothing less, nothing more.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Crazy to me that someone is debating taking

40 games & 58.4% 6716 passing yards, 59 TDs, 19 INTs with 461 carries for 2232 yards and 21 TDs

over

37 games & 61.5% 7138 passing yards, 53 TDs, 29 INTs with 438 carries for 2160 yards and 32 TDs

Who is who in this scenario?