Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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DD4ME said:
The situation is escalating

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I don't know who this guy is. I'm going to assume he's nobody.

But I do think it's interesting.

The sport is decimated. They could revive it, but it is ruined in its current state. Some will disagree, but I don't find that argument interesting.

The argument I do find interesting is how long a dead sport can run on its old momentum. And pictures like that make me think it isn't very long. Millions of dollars in Nico merchandise... Carson Beck merchandise... Then boom. Waste of money.

So many people feel like they are getting screwed. Fans feel like they are getting screwed because players just go play for rivals, and even if they don't, they end up looking greedy. Meanwhile boosters are pouring in more money than ever, but unable to actually build anything because the guys they paid last year are now undercutting their investment this year.

I think with no spending restrictions and pay-to-play contracts very soon, the money will dry up fast. I would imagine the current group of athletes is getting paid more than anyone else will who follow them.
 
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volinbama256 said:
LOL... this has plenty to do with CJH and DW... he and ole Danny don't get a pass, they are very much to blame for this... I can guarantee you that if they had done what was expected by the fans, team, etc, and forked over the money to reload the WR room with elite talent that was certainly in the portal for the taking, however uncomfortable, his Dad would not have shopped his son around knowing the weapons/offense his son would play with would continue to be elite and would be competing for a championship again... Don't fool yourself. They took a financial gamble and it's blowing up in their face.
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What’s expected is to win. That’s what he’s been doing.

All these other things are just your feelings.
 
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Jpcisco said:
CJH spent his time and resources building the roster the way he wanted it and the roster that gives him the best chance to win. If he thought WR was a bigger priority, he would have addressed it. He has to build a team they way he wants it, not what Nico wants. He has 84 other players to worry about and other holes needing to be filled. He can't cater every thing he does off of "what Nico wants".
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Maybe if dude didn't ask for so much money, they could fill those holes?
 
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TrippieRedd said:
False. Score was 24-17. Nico had 1 TD and 1 INT. Take Nico away and the score is 17-17.

Merk can do that…



Sampson had 2 TDs
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Nico had two huge plays that set up both of those Sampson TD’s.

And No we haven’t seen Merk do anything on that level. One was a huge pass to Thorton and the other was a terrific scramble by Nico.

 
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Ten_Titans said:
I don't know who this guy is. I'm going to assume he's nobody.

But I do think it's interesting.

The sport is decimated. They could revive it, but it is ruined in its current state. Some will disagree, but I don't find that argument interesting.

The argument I do find interesting is how long a dead sport can run on its old momentum. And pictures like that make me think it isn't very long. Millions of dollars in Nico merchandise... Carson Beck merchandise... Then boom. Waste of money.

So many people feel like they are getting screwed. Fans feel like they are getting screwed because players just go play for rivals, and even if they don't, they end up looking greedy. Meanwhile boosters are pouring in more money than ever, but unable to actually build anything because the guys they paid last year are now undercutting their investment this year.

I think with no spending restrictions and pay-to-play contracts very soon, the money will dry up fast. I would imagine the current group of athletes is getting paid more than anyone else will who follow them.
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Agree, good post
 
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UTK said:
Yeah football is a team game. But there’s games last year we don’t win without Nico. No Nico didn’t meet the unworldly expectations of winning a heisman as a freshman but he also at times played well despite pieces around him playing terrible. No his play didn’t demand such a drastic raise and I think any school looking to meet that price is flat out desperate. It’s just a bummer because Nico could be an extremely special talent if he just focused on ball. It’s just a sad situation all around.
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Yup sucks that he's surrounded by people trying to get a bigger piece of the pie.
 
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Jpcisco said:
You can see it however you want, this is completely on Nico and his family. We paid handsomely to secure his services yet they wanted even more and it backfired. He just isnt worth that kinda money at this point. They agreed to a deal and want more now, when Nico was missing wide open receivers last year Tennessee wasn't sitting there thinking, hmm maybe we should renegotiate this deal and pay him less he can't hit a deep ball to save his life.
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Oof….another good post 🤌🏽
 
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Jack Burton said:
Yeah, and we don’t beat Bama or make the playoffs without him.
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We may not beat bama or make the playoffs, but unless Nico really improved this year, he just isn't that great. He has shown flashes of being great, but how many easy passes did he miss or not seeing WRs running wide open? Who is to say the other highly ranked QBs can't play as good or better?
 
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Ten_Titans said:
I don't know who this guy is. I'm going to assume he's nobody.

But I do think it's interesting.

The sport is decimated. They could revive it, but it is ruined in its current state. Some will disagree, but I don't find that argument interesting.

The argument I do find interesting is how long a dead sport can run on its old momentum. And pictures like that make me think it isn't very long. Millions of dollars in Nico merchandise... Carson Beck merchandise... Then boom. Waste of money.

So many people feel like they are getting screwed. Fans feel like they are getting screwed because players just go play for rivals, and even if they don't, they end up looking greedy. Meanwhile boosters are pouring in more money than ever, but unable to actually build anything because the guys they paid last year are now undercutting their investment this year.

I think with no spending restrictions and pay-to-play contracts very soon, the money will dry up fast. I would imagine the current group of athletes is getting paid more than anyone else will who follow them.
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Best post of all time🤌🏽
 
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DD4ME said:
I told y'all this was all too public. And imo we can blame fans all we want, but there are people making and kids receiving a hell of a lot of money for this never to hit the street. Somebody should be fired over this handling.
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I say they fire Nico. No way you can let him be the leader of the team if half the story is true. His play last year was also nothing special.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
I don’t care if he leaves or stays.

It sucks that we didn’t get Merk more reps, but oh well, I personally don’t think we were hitting 10 wins this season anyways.

I’m not gonna support giving more money to a kid that gave us JG like results in a much more dynamic offense. Sampson and defense was the reason we played so well last year.

Let the kid leave. Get Merk ready for game 1. Take all the Nil this kid tied us for and give it to some portal guys.
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I don’t think it’s a stretch to think Merk might be better. Nico was mid pack last year.
 
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gunner said:
Nico had two huge plays that set up both of those Sampson TD’s.

And No we haven’t seen Merk do anything on that level. One was a huge pass to Thorton and the other was a terrific scramble by Nico.

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Buddy…Sampson had a 35 yard run, then Nico had a 20 yard run, THEN there was a pass interference penalty, THEN Sampson scored

Nico did not set up anything.

And yes, Merk can run 25 ****ing yards.
 
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Jpcisco said:
You can see it however you want, this is completely on Nico and his family. We paid handsomely to secure his services yet they wanted even more and it backfired. He just isnt worth that kinda money at this point. They agreed to a deal and want more now, when Nico was missing wide open receivers last year Tennessee wasn't sitting there thinking, hmm maybe we should renegotiate this deal and pay him less he can't hit a deep ball to save his life.
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So you think if we had a WR room full of weapons right now, an elite Oline, and a full RB stable that this would still be going down? Chris Lowe hinted the same thing I brought up, but what does he know right?
 
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