Trade Wars and Tariffs

The right wing coping is pretty pathetic. I checked my personal Charles Schwab account.. most of my gains are gone....wiped out. I am afraid to even look at my retirement. I'm technically 12 years from retirement. I can't imagine how someone who was set to retire feels. For any MAGAs that's wondering, that's called empathy. Although I have years to hopefully recover my losses, those that were going to retire soon will have to either continue working or be SOL. I hate it for them, they did everything right and boom. I guess they could've been born rich. 🤷🏾‍♂️
 
We were warned, we were told, but hey. The price of eggs...
At least he received the bodies of the troops that died....
It's bad yall.
 

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The right wing coping is pretty pathetic. I checked my personal Charles Schwab account.. most of my gains are gone....wiped out. I am afraid to even look at my retirement. I'm technically 12 years from retirement. I can't imagine how someone who was set to retire feels. For any MAGAs that's wondering, that's called empathy. Although I have years to hopefully recover my losses, those that were going to retire soon will have to either continue working or be SOL. I hate it for them, they did everything right and boom. I guess they could've been born rich. 🤷🏾‍♂️
Were you acting like this when the market just kept losing under President Obama? A bunch of folks in here have no business being in the market. Just don't pull out and all will be fine.
 
Those are also factors, but wouldn't you have said, maybe, 2 years ago that the majority of Tesla's target market were likely left leaning voters (being EVs) and that his newfound allegiance would lend to a significant drops in that market?

Musk, the smartest guy in the world, didn't figure out what every other dipsh!t that entered politics figures out...your existing biz will likely face backlash.. Jimmy Carter is just a country bumpkin and divested from his peanut farm, for crying out loud. Musk thinks you can be the face of Tesla and the face of this 2nd Trump admin. Good plan.
 
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Were you acting like this when the market just kept losing under President Obama? A bunch of folks in here have no business being in the market. Just don't pull out and all will be fine.
Can anyone on this board not argue anything without some kind of whataboutism? Dude is making a solid point about people who are going to suffer because of this situation. Obama was almost a decade ago.

However, to your point, Buffett very much contends that there are some people who have no business investing because they can't see LT.
 
The right wing coping is pretty pathetic. I checked my personal Charles Schwab account.. most of my gains are gone....wiped out. I am afraid to even look at my retirement. I'm technically 12 years from retirement. I can't imagine how someone who was set to retire feels. For any MAGAs that's wondering, that's called empathy. Although I have years to hopefully recover my losses, those that were going to retire soon will have to either continue working or be SOL. I hate it for them, they did everything right and boom. I guess they could've been born rich. 🤷🏾‍♂️
My parents retired in '24. they aren't sweating this at all. they are still planning on building a retirement home this year. they aren't what anyone would call rich. just smart with the money they have.
 
The right wing coping is pretty pathetic. I checked my personal Charles Schwab account.. most of my gains are gone....wiped out. I am afraid to even look at my retirement. I'm technically 12 years from retirement. I can't imagine how someone who was set to retire feels. For any MAGAs that's wondering, that's called empathy. Although I have years to hopefully recover my losses, those that were going to retire soon will have to either continue working or be SOL. I hate it for them, they did everything right and boom. I guess they could've been born rich. 🤷🏾‍♂️
No one very close to retirement should be so exposed where they lose it all. Even after the 08/09 crash the losses were recovered and then some. It's a long investment

I have a hard time saying they did everything right given what their generation has done to this country. You can't honestly think that massive govt with massive spending and massive debt was going to go on forever. They just thought it would go on until their kids and grandkids were the ones crushed. Where the empathy for them?
 
And there was no financial reason for the stock to run up over $400 a share before the recent correction. Musk cozied up to Trump and got himself in the media spotlight. IMO, investors thought he would parlay that relationship to help his business. Due to his off putting personality in the media, the opposite has happened. When viewing Tesla from only their financials, the stock price has always seemed way too inflated IMO.

Tesla's stock price didn't match the biz numbers at all.
 
I have a hard time saying they did everything right given what their generation has done to this country.
As Pat Buchanan said, "They (Boomers) are the most self-righteous and entitled generation in American history." They are taking the entire country down as they go to the grave.
 
MAGA b!tches!


2% cost increase?

heck Biden's EPA requires a refrigerant which is considered slightly flammable. you are over here complaining about less than 10k in increases, while other changes increases the risk of fire for new builds, as well as adding hundreds of thousands in costs to retrofit existing.

I can tell you from first hand experience the tariffs are not the issue when it comes to new construction. there are other things Trump has done that have far bigger impacts. Labor is going to be jacked up.
 
My parents retired in '24. they aren't sweating this at all. they are still planning on building a retirement home this year. they aren't what anyone would call rich. just smart with the money they have.

Unless quotes come back just stupid (which I don't think they will since my lumber package was actually less than I thought it would be) we're still building our last house.

But I'll be homeless for the first time in another 6 days!
 
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Can anyone on this board not argue anything without some kind of whataboutism? Dude is making a solid point about people who are going to suffer because of this situation. Obama was almost a decade ago.

However, to your point, Buffett very much contends that there are some people who have no business investing because they can't see LT.
It would be a whataboutism if I was saying Trumps decline is some how okay because Obama had one too. My point was the market will be fine not to freak out and pull out because he doesn't like the current president.
 
The right wing coping is pretty pathetic. I checked my personal Charles Schwab account.. most of my gains are gone....wiped out. I am afraid to even look at my retirement. I'm technically 12 years from retirement. I can't imagine how someone who was set to retire feels. For any MAGAs that's wondering, that's called empathy. Although I have years to hopefully recover my losses, those that were going to retire soon will have to either continue working or be SOL. I hate it for them, they did everything right and boom. I guess they could've been born rich. 🤷🏾‍♂️
My parents retired when each reached 52. They are 88 and 77 now. They never owned a business nor made huge salaries. They spent less than they made and invested the rest. From investments and retirement, they make WAY more annually now than they ever did while working.

When they built their house, it was paid for the day we moved in. I was 11 at the time, am now 54. Always pay cash for cars and has never been in debt for anything.

They aren’t sweating this and didn’t sweat it back in 2008. If ppl are sweating it, they either aren’t looking long-term or they started late and trying to play catch up or simply haven’t invested wisely.

I have empathy for ppl but I also understand that many, many ppl personally make piss poor decisions and then blame everyone else for their failures.
 
2% cost increase?

heck Biden's EPA requires a refrigerant which is considered slightly flammable. you are over here complaining about less than 10k in increases, while other changes increases the risk of fire for new builds, as well as adding hundreds of thousands in costs to retrofit existing.

I can tell you from first hand experience the tariffs are not the issue when it comes to new construction. there are other things Trump has done that have far bigger impacts. Labor is going to be jacked up.
Regardless of the tariffs, it would be nice to see our country produce more lumber.
 
Unless quotes come back just stupid (which I don't think they will since my lumber package was actually less than I thought it would be) we're still building our last house.

But I'll be homeless for the first time in another 6 days!
Is a hog ever really homeless?

Its not going to be framing, or cladding that are going to jack the costs up imo. especially here in the south. Southern Yellow Pine works almost as well as the import Spruce/Fir we get from Canada. I have yet to have a problem getting SYP approved in commercial construction so I can't imagine it is a problem for single family.
 
The US economic bloc is very, very, valuable for countries across the globe ...

From the article:

The European Union is preparing to offer reduced car import tariffs to the United States as part of negotiations aimed at preventing a potential trade war with Donald Trump.

The bloc is willing to lower its current 10 per cent import tax on American vehicles closer to the US rate of 2.5 per cent, according to Bernd Lange, head of the European Parliament's trade committee.

As part of the proposed deal, the EU would also commit to purchasing more liquefied natural gas and military equipment from the United State
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Is a hog ever really homeless?

Its not going to be framing, or cladding that are going to jack the costs up imo. especially here in the south. Southern Yellow Pine works almost as well as the import Spruce/Fir we get from Canada. I have yet to have a problem getting SYP approved in commercial construction so I can't imagine it is a problem for single family.

LOL

Concrete is what's a flipping killer right now.
 
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