Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Enki_Amenra]

Put him at Fullback

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Remember years ago when Heupel first hired in and he pulled the offer from some slow receiver that committed to Pruitt? Pretty standard stuff but the kid, his hs coach, and the media tried to crucify Heupel for it.

Anyone remember any details of that - if the kid ever panned out and if we ever went on to sign anyone else from his school? His coach said we’d never be welcome back there again

Not completely sure I recall the name. But I think it was roc Taylor?

 

[85SugarVol]

In a nano second…..I will be a Nashville Stars fan!
And yes……I’m a Yankees fan from the day I was born

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Everyone needs to keep an eye out for the weather on Friday and especially Saturday. Looking pretty bad and this forecast is expected to be upgraded to expand the moderate risk area and include a high risk zone. There's potential for supercells, large hail, and strong long track tornadoes. Be aware and stay safe.

 

[85SugarVol]

Yup. Major coverup. How quickly folks can conveniently forget the investigative reports and evidence. They crucify the players in other sports who did it and totally ignore Tiger, who was already great before he started using.

The tour went all in to sell the narrative for another GOAT to drive interest in the game globally. It worked for a time. Now it is floundering over it and LIV with no icon golfer to serve its imaging needs. Which was the problem, they thought they needed imaging when they already had one of the best stories and histories in sports. The game speaks for itself if it is kept pure from the crap that can cause it problems. The truth is there have been a number of GOATs subject to era in time. That's the narrative to sell. The history and tradition are good things, not bad. Sure, adapt to changes in society, but don't throw the beautiful baby out with the bathwater.

For example, very few in the game have ever had a better season than Scottie last year. Add in Xander with two majors. Sell that and all of the great young talent in the game. Mend fences with LIV and be about the game of golf.

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It’s kinda wild how much willful ignorance there seems to be with Tiger.
We’ve convicted in the Court of Truth so many others, on much weaker evidence.

He was literally running in the same circles with the same people.
At the height of the HGH boom.
And just happened to get swollen and proceed to go supernova.
And then had his body break down.

And yet so many insist on…

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

It’s kinda wild how much willful ignorance there seems to be with Tiger.
We’ve convicted in the Court of Truth so many others, on much weaker evidence.

He was literally running in the same circles with the same people.
At the height of the HGH boom.
And just happened to get swollen and proceed to go supernova.
And then had his body break down.

And yet so many insist on…
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Tiger was always pretty thin until he started bulking up around 2008. By then, he had already won 13 majors. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he used HGH starting around the 2007-2008 time period because he physically changed. However, he was already one of the longest hitters on tour because of the club speed he could generate due more to flexibility and athleticism more so than strength. He was just a skinny kid when he won his first few majors. Him trying to bulk up probably derailed his career more than anything.

 

[85SugarVol]

Tiger was always pretty thin until he started bulking up around 2008. By then, he had already won 13 majors. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he used HGH starting around the 2007-2008 time period because he physically changed. However, he was already one of the longest hitters on tour because of the club speed he could generate due more to flexibility and athleticism more so than strength. He was just a skinny kid when he won his first few majors. Him trying to bulk up probably derailed his career more than anything.

He was demonstrably bigger much earlier than 2008. Something changed after his first run of #1. He came back bigger.

I’d say Tiger’s first run of Majors is probably clean.
Just like Bonds & Rocket, he was an amazing talent that was already destined to be one of the greats.

Like Bonds & Rocket, Tiger appeared to be chasing something. Something bigger, something more.

What was Tiger chasing

 

[gordonr24]

I have to disagree, even though I love the Vols star logo. The Tri-Star can never be overused. UT is the flagship university of the state and the new logo represents that well.



And this is coming from a guy who has both logos on different vehicles.

I’m a fan of anything that incorporates the Tri-star. I have an orange UT hat with the Tri-star logo. It’s my favorite sub logo associated with UT. I have a lot of state pride.

 

[Adam2014]

He was demonstrably bigger much earlier than 2008. Something changed after his first run of #1. He came back bigger.

I’d say Tiger’s first run of Majors is probably clean.
Just like Bonds & Rocket, he was an amazing talent that was already destined to be one of the greats.

Like Bonds & Rocket, Tiger appeared to be chasing something. Something bigger, something more.

What was Tiger chasing

A Perkins waitress...

 

[VolGee4]

It’s kinda wild how much willful ignorance there seems to be with Tiger.
We’ve convicted in the Court of Truth so many others, on much weaker evidence.

He was literally running in the same circles with the same people.
At the height of the HGH boom.
And just happened to get swollen and proceed to go supernova.
And then had his body break down.

And yet so many insist on…
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It’s not that big of a deal to me. He was not nearly as recognizable through his body as the baseball guys. I just looked at a side by side from 2005 and 2019 and saw very little difference. It’s just my opinion. He was known as a work out maniac and put in the work, even cardio workouts.

He had the Tigerslam in 2001 just like I can acknowledge that Barry Bonds was awesome before he got big. I have no doubt Tiger tried to use things to help him medically. Was that steroids? No idea.

 

[screenthis]

It’s kinda wild how much willful ignorance there seems to be with Tiger.
We’ve convicted in the Court of Truth so many others, on much weaker evidence.

He was literally running in the same circles with the same people.
At the height of the HGH boom.
And just happened to get swollen and proceed to go supernova.
And then had his body break down.

And yet so many insist on…
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I'm cetainly not putting my fingers in my ears. And I hate the 'court of public opinion'. You clearly followed this much closer than I. For me, I'm just reluctant to say he absolutely used PEDs because I don't see the definitive proof. Too often, that 'court of public opinion' likes to play Judge and Executioner kind of like a mob mentality ready to tar and feather. And, this has sullied many a reputation.

 

[VolGee4]

I'm cetainly not putting my fingers in my ears. And I hate the 'court of public opinion'. You clearly followed this much closer than I. For me, I'm just reluctant to say he absolutely used PEDs because I don't see the definitive proof. Too often, that 'court of public opinion' likes to play Judge and Executioner kind of like a mob mentality ready to tar and feather. And, this has sullied many a reputation.

Our own Peyton Manning had to briefly deal with a steroid accusation.

 

[rockytop25]

 

[Brillovol]

I’m a fan of anything that incorporates the Tri-star. I have an orange UT hat with the Tri-star logo. It’s my favorite sub logo associated with UT. I have a lot of state pride.

It helps that I work for the state now. Tri star for life. Also looks great on my truck.

 

[Go Fight Win]

isaiah campbell will be the next great TN DL

word on the street

 

[Go Fight Win]

"he will be a major part of our rotation starting August 30th"

 

[85SugarVol]

It’s not that big of a deal to me. He was not nearly as recognizable through his body as the baseball guys. I just looked at a side by side from 2005 and 2019 and saw very little difference. It’s just my opinion. He was known as a work out maniac and put in the work, even cardio workouts.

He had the Tigerslam in 2001 just like I can acknowledge that Barry Bonds was awesome before he got big. I have no doubt Tiger tried to use things to help him medically. Was that steroids? No idea.

2005 & 2019 is comparing “after” to “after”. You have to compare 1997/1998 to 2005-2007 to get “before and after”.

Of course he worked out maniacally. That’s what PEDs allow you to do - work out like a monster and push your body.

I stated in another post that his first run of Majors is probably clean. He came back bigger when he started his second run.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

It helps that I work for the state now. Tri star for life. Also looks great on my truck.

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Tundra? I just picked up a '25 Tundra last week. How has it treated you?

 

[Ttucke11]

"he will be a major part of our rotation starting August 30th"

Yea them putting him on promos already signified he's legit.

 

[85SugarVol]

I'm cetainly not putting my fingers in my ears. And I hate the 'court of public opinion'. You clearly followed this much closer than I. For me, I'm just reluctant to say he absolutely used PEDs because I don't see the definitive proof. Too often, that 'court of public opinion' likes to play Judge and Executioner kind of like a mob mentality ready to tar and feather. And, this has sullied many a reputation.

When it comes to PED use at the height of the PED era - more times than not, that’s what it comes down to.

This isn’t a criminal trial where the burden is “Beyond a reasonable doubt”.
It’s more akin to a civil trial and a “preponderance of the evidence”.

And it’s wild just how much evidence people are willing to overlook, which in conjunction, are pretty overwhelming.

And all in regards to a known Cheater & Liar.

 

[knoxvol52]

Steelers get their QB. sign Mason Rudolph..

 

[VolGee4]

2005 & 2019 is comparing “after” to “after”. You have to compare 1997/1998 to 2005-2007 to get “before and after”.

Of course he worked out maniacally. That’s what PEDs allow you to do - work out like a monster and push your body.

I stated in another post that his first run of Majors is probably clean. He came back bigger when he started his second run.

In 1997, Tiger was 21 years old. If you look at side by sides of Lebron James from 20 years old and 10 years later, you see a big difference. Part of that is natural aging and body composition.

Barry Bonds' body changed when he was 35 years old.

Like I said, this isn't a big deal to me.

 

[itsme]

"Reds"

Should be named the Tennessee Miners. That way we can have the Oilers and Miners.

I would prefer the Rednecks

 

[Jimmy Football]

Steelers get their QB. sign Mason Rudolph..

Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.

 

[butchna]

Ummm…it moved.