President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

Your freedom to post what you like and whether I like the source aren't the point. You of course are and should be, within forum rules, free to do so.
The point is that Alex Jones is grifter royalty scum, and famously so. His life's work is to spew rubbish to bait the gullible, get attention, clicks, and money.

You are talking to a perfect example of his target audience.

WTNOB is the mental equivalent of a fart someone his age made a mistake in trusting. He is a shart. A failed gamble on your gastric system.
 
I don't know how their spines contort without breaking as they try to ignore the civil and human rights abuses. When people say MAGA, they don't mean it in an "All lives matter" way...well, maybe as the dogwhistle.
What's truly fascinating about this is the dynamic of the conversation and how the whole thing got started.

Let me bullet point as I see it:
- Politician makes baseless, bombastic claim about going back to the 50s because a Rep was being disruptive and was escorted out.
- Some of us respond to the asinine idea but turning it on its head and pointing out some of the good things about the 1950s
- Others come along and point out many bad things about the time period.
- Both the positives and negatives are true.
- Not a single, rational person is concerned we are literally going back to the 50s as the OI (original idiot) claimed.
- Some think the contortionists are only on one "side".
 
What's truly fascinating about this is the dynamic of the conversation and how the whole thing got started.

Let me bullet point as I see it:
- Politician makes baseless, bombastic claim about going back to the 50s because a Rep was being disruptive and was escorted out.
- Some of us respond to the asinine idea but turning it on its head and pointing out some of the good things about the 1950s
- Others come along and point out many bad things about the time period.
- Both the positives and negatives are true.
- Not a single, rational person is concerned we are literally going back to the 50s as the OI (original idiot) claimed.
- Some think the contortionists are only on one "side".
Silencing the black dude while seeking to remove marriage and civil protections for LGBT, whitewash the government of DEI initiatives under the guise of them being "woke", etc is cause for alarm.
Now you see the calls to strike down Obergefell. To end no-fault divorce.

But yeah "turn is on its head". Just joke away actual issues. Never before has a Congressperson been censured for interrupting a speech. Never. To lump this act in with violence, sexual mischief, etc by this group is...something. While I don't condone the behavior, it's not exactly out of the norm these days. I seem to recall a couple of big losers doing the same at SOTU speeches over the years. Wonder why the GOP didn't seek their censure?
 
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Leftoids putting their money where their mouths are, as usual.
People are trying to afford housing and food. To argue that donations can just make up for government funding being pulled as so disingenuous.

Imagine the government pulls out of building a road to your neighborhood. Y'all gonna scrape together for it? Or are you "rightwinger putting their money where their mouths are, as usual?"
 
People are trying to afford housing and food. To argue that donations can just make up for government funding being pulled as so disingenuous.

Imagine the government pulls out of building a road to your neighborhood. Y'all gonna scrape together for it? Or are you "rightwinger putting their money where their mouths are, as usual?"

The federal government shouldn't be funding neighborhood roads.
 
People are trying to afford housing and food. To argue that donations can just make up for government funding being pulled as so disingenuous.

Imagine the government pulls out of building a road to your neighborhood. Y'all gonna scrape together for it? Or are you "rightwinger putting their money where their mouths are, as usual?"
Imagine being so dense you're going to make this "expense" argument while ignoring the fact that we have all been paying for it anyway via our taxes.
 
You should pay more attention.
lol........even you can see that trump is and has been by far the most childish of the bunch.

That's evidently one of the things his worshipers find endearing.
One more element of the bizarreness of trumpism.
 
So you’re fine with a “giant waste of money” as long as you agree with the purpose.

The second go-round had “a purpose” - you just didn’t agree with it.

I don't agree with the second one because of the way it was transacted, but truly, I have no dog in the fight. I didn't service in the Army and never was stationed at any of the bases affected. I did serve in the AF just in case service is a requirement to comment on service related issues. I know you never implied that, just mentioning since others did and I mentioned my lack of direct connection to the Army above.

You asked if they "would they be petty enough to change them again" and I said the current admin was petty for changing it back. The damage had already been done with the first change whether you liked it or not. Congress passed the appropriations bill with the required renaming with an overwhelming majority and Trump didn't veto it which would have stopped the whole thing in its tracks. He didn't because he didn't want to be seen attacking the military which would have hurt his re-election campaign. A few years later, they change the name back while "honoring" someone with the same name to skirt the law. Sure, that's not petty, but if it is changed again, that would definitely be petty.

ETA: Hog pointed out Trump did veto the act, but it was overridden by Congress so I stand corrected on that line.
 
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lol........even you can see that trump is and has been by far the most childish of the bunch.

That's evidently one of the things his worshipers find endearing.
One more element of the bizarreness of trumpism.

I've never seen Trump act as childish as the Dems during Tuesdays speech. Again, pay more attention.
 
lol........even you can see that trump is and has been by far the most childish of the bunch.

That's evidently one of the things his worshipers find endearing.
One more element of the bizarreness of trumpism.
I see a lot of children that are eating ice cream on vacation while being led around by other adults because they lack the cognitive ability to be responsible for their whereabouts.

I just described Biden’s 4 years in office.
 
I don't agree with the second one because of the way it was transacted, but truly, I have no dog in the fight. I didn't service in the Army and never was stationed at any of the bases affected. I did serve in the AF just in case service is a requirement to comment on service related issues. I know you never implied that, just mentioning since others did and I mentioned my lack of direct connection to the Army above.

You asked if they "would they be petty enough to change them again" and I said the current admin was petty for changing it back. The damage had already been done with the first change whether you liked it or not. Congress passed the appropriations bill with the required renaming with an overwhelming majority and Trump didn't veto it which would have stopped the whole thing in its tracks. He didn't because he didn't want to be seen attacking the military which would have hurt his re-election campaign. A few years later, they change the name back while "honoring" someone with the same name to skirt the law. Sure, that's not petty, but if it is changed again, that would definitely be petty.

Trump did veto the bill and his veto was overridden.
 
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I've never seen Trump act as childish as the Dems during Tuesdays speech. Again, pay more attention.
Please - he tweets like a 12 year old girl. And uses silly nicknames like a 10 year old boy.
He's as vindictive and petty as a15 year old girl who just got dumped.

On average - 13.4 year old female.
 
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I don't know how their spines contort without breaking as they try to ignore the civil and human rights abuses. When people say MAGA, they don't mean it in an "All lives matter" way...well, maybe as the dogwhistle.
I don't think that's what they're doing. It's obviously sarcasm to point out the degradation of some parts of culture without claiming that the 50s were a utopia.
 
Silencing the black dude while seeking to remove marriage and civil protections for LGBT, whitewash the government of DEI initiatives under the guise of them being "woke", etc is cause for alarm.
Now you see the calls to strike down Obergefell. To end no-fault divorce.

But yeah "turn is on its head". Just joke away actual issues. Never before has a Congressperson been censured for interrupting a speech. Never. To lump this act in with violence, sexual mischief, etc by this group is...something. While I don't condone the behavior, it's not exactly out of the norm these days. I seem to recall a couple of big losers doing the same at SOTU speeches over the years. Wonder why the GOP didn't seek their censure?
You see a black man interrupting. I see a man.
You see his interruption as justified. I see it as wrong time, wrong place.
You see a slippery slope to bigger issues. I see partisan politics.

Other Reps have been censured. We didn't return to the 50s then. We won't know. Which makes her bombastic, irrational rhetoric worthy of mocking.
You don't condone. Great. A point of agreement. You are rationalizing the behavior. I am not.
The last disrupting rep I recall was Joe Wilson. He was reprimanded. I can google all the ones who have been censured if it would help the discussion.
 
And the one who has acted the most childlike in history is currently our POTUS.
WAS POTUS. We sat and watched Biden regress through his second childhood, right into toddler, as his power-hungry handlers basically committed elder abuse before the world stage so they wouldn't lose their places in the kick-back line.
 
Trump did veto the bill and his veto was overridden.
Thanks. I stand corrected.

Even more so the will of the people then to get it reapproved after the veto and also leads to it seeming more petty since he didn't agree to it the first time.
 
Thanks. I stand corrected.

Even more so the will of the people then to get it reapproved after the veto and also leads to it seeming more petty since he didn't agree to it the first time.

It was a petty waste pf money both times.

Personally I'm glad they changed the names back because I have history at both. As for Gen Moore, I'm not going to say that he deserves a base named after him because I just don't know what someone should have done to deserve such an honor but naming a base after Gen Moore shouldn't offend anyone.
 
People are trying to afford housing and food. To argue that donations can just make up for government funding being pulled as so disingenuous.

Imagine the government pulls out of building a road to your neighborhood. Y'all gonna scrape together for it? Or are you "rightwinger putting their money where their mouths are, as usual?"
Your timing is great. Did you know, over where the bridges were washed out after Hurrican Helene, locals constructed temporary bridges? To say people won't band together for the "general welfare" of their locality, isn't supported by historical or current reality.

In addition, accordign to Google AI, Americans give (privately, not through the government) about half a trillion annually to US charities and 44 billion internationally.
 
People are trying to afford housing and food. To argue that donations can just make up for government funding being pulled as so disingenuous.

Imagine the government pulls out of building a road to your neighborhood. Y'all gonna scrape together for it? Or are you "rightwinger putting their money where their mouths are, as usual?"
as usual the Rs and the Ds see the same issue and want to approach it in two different ways.

The Ds want to take more money from some, so that they can give more money to a different group. even though the taking creates more of the needy.
the Rs want* to take less money from all, so that people don't need as many government handouts.

*trump is just a D in disguise.
 

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