If California decided to secede would you be in favor of it?

If California decided to secede would you be in favor of it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 74.1%

  • No

    Votes: 7 25.9%
  • Total voters
    27
#28
#28
DinkinFlicka said:
Buddy, it'd be the homeless who would feast on the rest.
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Given the softness of the average Californian city dweller, you are probably correct. But I think the country folk there are like country folk anywhere else.

Actually in the Armageddon/zombie type scenario of the destruction of 'society' watching the cities eat each other (figuratively) would be popcorn and scotch worthy.
 
#31
#31
SpaceCoastVol said:
Given the softness of the average Californian city dweller, you are probably correct. But I think the country folk there are like country folk anywhere else.

Actually in the Armageddon/zombie type scenario of the destruction of 'society' watching the cities eat each other (figuratively) would be popcorn and scotch worthy.
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Bubba's fat ass against a feral crackhead in a life or death situation? I dunno, man.
 
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#32
#32
DinkinFlicka said:
How would that end up being *any* different than it is now?
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Probably wouldn’t but at least have the possibility of a chance at a fresh start. Then again it probably wouldn’t be any different if they actually seceded either.
 
#33
#33
I would vote no; they are the 5th largest economy in the world. Just behind Japan and just ahead of India and the UK.
 
#35
#35
MurphyVol said:
I would vote no; they are the 5th largest economy in the world. Just behind Japan and just ahead of India and the UK.
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Meh. Simply because tech companies call Cali home. They don’t actually do anything that can’t be replaced.
 
#38
#38
OrangeTsar said:
I think the ultimate solution isn’t to have entire states leave as America’s division isn’t between Red States and Blue States as much as it is Blue big cities versus Red everywhere else. I would say let LA, San Fran, Portland, and Seattle all secede as modern day City States. They would lose their votes in the electoral college and the Senate; but they could avoid federal taxation (and funding) and try to run their own affairs using their utopian fantasy principles to their heart’s content
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I don’t think the question was “how would you divide America?”
 
#43
#43
C-south said:
Meh. Simply because tech companies call Cali home. They don’t actually do anything that can’t be replaced.
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they are one of 13 states that sends more money to the federal government than they receive. Last analysis completed showed that California paid $83.1 billion more in federal taxes than it received in federal funding. This made California the biggest "donor state" in the country.

There are also more than 30 major defense installations in California, incorporating all military services, more than double any other state. California's diverse network of training ranges are a national tool that cannot be replicated

The US government would aggressively fight any notion of a succession by California.
 
#44
#44
BigOrangeMojo said:
If they dont wanna be here, then let them leave.....

With that being said, our country is better with Cali than without (even with their issues)....
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They do provide solid entertainment across a lot of different spectrums. In politics, they’re nuttier than New York, but a distant second to Portland, OR.
 
#47
#47
DinkinFlicka said:
That's an... interesting take.
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Of course I was joking about the invading part mainly because the succession will never happen. But if it did happen why would a territory that has been conquered automatically become a free state?
 
#48
#48
GroverCleveland said:
They do provide solid entertainment across a lot of different spectrums. In politics, they’re nuttier than New York, but a distant second to Portland, OR.
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California is actually nutty in both ways. Some of the worse right wing people that I have met have come out of California. It is like the state lives in extremities.

I do think urbanized areas mess with people psychologically. The constant noise and being surrounded by people 24/7 has to impact how you think.
 
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#49
#49
MurphyVol said:
they are one of 13 states that sends more money to the federal government than they receive. Last analysis completed showed that California paid $83.1 billion more in federal taxes than it received in federal funding. This made California the biggest "donor state" in the country. the US government would aggressively fight any notion of a succession by California.
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Meh
 
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