Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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Vol since 77 said:
Out of the past 17 years, I spent 15 of it in govt and the last 2 contracted with the govt. The majority here have no damn clue just how bad it is on the inside. I could share stories after I retire, but it's doubtful because most here don't deserve to know exactly how bad it is.
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I believe it. Spent most of my career in private sector. Went to work for a government contractor, and I'm amazed.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I'm all for the algorithms. Let's see the details of what they found, more than just X$$$$. Who dispersed it? Why? What did recipient do with it?
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Long term, I agree. Show me the receipts.

I don’t think they need validation before they act, however, and as a taxpayer, I appreciate their desire to stop the waste.

But, show receipts. Don’t let me think it may just be political retribution.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Long term, I agree. Show me the receipts.

I don’t think they need validation before they act, however, and as a taxpayer, I appreciate their desire to stop the waste.

But, show receipts. Don’t let me think it may just be political retribution.
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With some of the agencies that are being hastily defunded with mass firings, it sort of smells like retribution. Especially that it's some of the agencies Musk had some issues with before his appointment. I'm not saying there isn't waste there, but someone else should be finding it.

I totally disagree with your second paragraph. A political appointee doing this must have a high degree of validation before acting hastily, and carelessly
 
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85SugarVol said:
Scratched the anchor pretty good. Probably looking at late 2028 before she’s seaworthy again.
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2032 imo..you know how efficient they are..

hey..btw, I posted a WaPo article in the Trump thread and apparently USN wants to scrap
”Frigates”..maybe the writer mispoke, but that is a shocker.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Wut to the plan. After all that’s been poured into it.

They fiddled with it right out of existence.
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well..i guess i mispoke..it says cuts..not sure if that means program or number.

The U.S. Navy is proposing cuts to its frigates and littoral combat ships, people familiar with the plans said.

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Willy P said:
Here's my concern with DOGE. I haven't been able to really see a good explanation of their process because all the reporting on it is sensationalized either left or right.

Every March-ish, the President releases his "budget" which is basically funding requests for every agency. After that, the House Subcommittees associated with each agency pick through these budget requests and make changes they see appropriate. These then make their way into the major budget bills for the upcoming FY. Sometimes, dollar amounts are earmarked for specific initiatives, sometimes the language is vague.

When/if Congress actually get around to passing a budget, the funding is allocated. Even in years that there is a CR, there are budget lines for specific initiatives.

When DOGE arrives at an agency and hones in on a contract, I'd like to know if there a cursory review to determine whether that contract was put in place specifically using earmarked money by Congress.

IF these contracts were executed as a result of earmarked dollars, then I'm concerned about it holding up in court. Not to mention, these old contracts are already in progress, meaning that cancellation will still cost the taxpayers some percentage of the contract value. IF contracts were awarded using agencies' general funds, perhaps they are more "fair game".

If the shoe was on the other foot and Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg was running around under President Harris canceling contracts that Republicans cared about, I think the news would look a little different.

Bottom line for me, I love the idea of DOGE in spirit, but I am hoping it's being done correctly and I'm uncomfortable with someone with obvious political bias being the figurehead.
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What was that phrase again.... Oh yeah.


Elections have consequences.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
With some of the agencies that are being hastily defunded with mass firings, it sort of smells like retribution. Especially that it's some of the agencies Musk had some issues with before his appointment. I'm not saying there isn't waste there, but someone else should be finding it.

I totally disagree with your second paragraph. A political appointee doing this must have a high degree of validation before acting hastily, and carelessly
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I don’t see “political appointee” as significant. All bureaucracy runs off of subordinates executing the policy of the executive. Musk can’t do anything Trump hasn’t delegated to him. Same for any other cabinet head. I think that is a

As for “validation,” I used to work in a government system that knowingly paid millions of dollars every year for services they knew were not legit. Then they later tried to recoup those monies. It was insane to anyone with real business experience.

That changed my perspective on the standard that should be used to, at minimum, freeze those payments to verify billings were legitimate.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You are too stubborn or deranged to accept the countless evidence presented over the last 2 weeks
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Started here, which is a flat-out lie regardless of whether you're enough of an adult to admit it.

Moved the goalposts to here:
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Tell you what: if it comes to pass that there is not sufficient evidence when it is supposed to be presented, I will apologize and admit that I've been duped.
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And still lost. Yikes.

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BernardKingGOAT said:
With some of the agencies that are being hastily defunded with mass firings, it sort of smells like retribution. Especially that it's some of the agencies Musk had some issues with before his appointment. I'm not saying there isn't waste there, but someone else should be finding it.

I totally disagree with your second paragraph. A political appointee doing this must have a high degree of validation before acting hastily, and carelessly
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They are giving the reason for all this i.e. improper funding groups against Americans themselves, and some of this is clearly criminal at this point. Having these conversations a few weeks after Biden was clearly supporting militarily terrorist groups has a way of throwing up red flags.

but someone else should be finding it.
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Well, maybe you can get Biden to run in 2028.
 
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