USAID may be the biggest scandal in American History.

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titansvolsfaninga said:
Because you haven't seen the pee tapes, they don't exist? They may or may not exist. The sad part is that what you got out of that entire report.
Moving the goal posts only work on the ill informed. This entire USAID issue is stupid. It was created in the 1960s, through many President's, Republican and Democrat, but magically musk and trump found fraud without any forensic accountants? How? In a month? Be ****ing for real. We live in the stupidest times. With the stupidest people. When everything crumbles, I guess you can blame the minorities or liberals or whoever you want to blame. As prices begin to rise and the stock market falls.
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Shuttering USAID and cutting govt waste is going to cause prices to rise and the stock market to fall? If that's the case then we were teetering on a knifes edge anyway and deserve it.

Oh, and those pee tapes don't exist.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
As you submit our tax $$$s to corruption and housing illegals over your own people. Pathetic!!
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That's stupid, Congress passed $100B in funding for natural disasters and separate funding for the Shelter and Services Program, they're not competing with each other + people should take it up with Congress if they hate that
 
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NashVol11 said:
That's stupid, Congress passed $100B in funding for natural disasters and separate funding for the Shelter and Services Program, they're not competing with each other + people should take it up with Congress if they hate that
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No, you had an administration that was subverting the intent of Congress with Congress partially in on it. Now its all getting exposed for what it is.... a scam. You are promoting a scam.
 
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NashVol11 said:
The "sneaky directions" are from Congress lmao, it's funny that that account would apparently feel differently if it were an American-owned hotel
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No, they are not at the direction of Congress its at least a fire-able offense and a distinct possibility of criminal liability.

The same with the prior administrations funding terrorist organization in the middle east.... lots of people should be in prison.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Trump can't unilaterally "freeze all spending" that Congress appropriates lol
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if it falls under one of the executive office agencies, why wouldn't he be able to?

The funds are "appropriated" for whatever task. They aren't "spent" on that task by Congress. basically the President has up to however much money is appropriated to spend on that task. There are very few "minimums" required.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Meanwhile the hits keep coming.

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USAID reportedly bankrolled al Qaeda terrorist’s college tuition, unearthed records show

American-born jihadist Anwar al-Awlaki received “full funding” to attend Colorado State University, a decade before he planned the 9/11 attacks.
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I mentioned on this forum long ago that the U.S. was not only funding 3 of 4 fractions in Syria, but they were further funding terrorist groups in violation of Law. People should be indicted including treason. And you could probably start with the Big Guy.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Because you haven't seen the pee tapes, they don't exist? They may or may not exist. The sad part is that what you got out of that entire report.
Moving the goal posts only work on the ill informed. This entire USAID issue is stupid. It was created in the 1960s, through many President's, Republican and Democrat, but magically musk and trump found fraud without any forensic accountants? How? In a month? Be ****ing for real. We live in the stupidest times. With the stupidest people. When everything crumbles, I guess you can blame the minorities or liberals or whoever you want to blame. As prices begin to rise and the stock market falls.
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Actually, this is one of the aspects of this administration that I respect.

I know that what Trump and Musk are finding isn't "magical," they are just using systems and data that haven't been utilized effectively.

For instance, in NC the Medicaid system has used IBM systems nicknamed "FAMS" (Fraud and Abuse Management System). This system can find, for example, a dentist submitting multiple billings for pulling the same tooth from the same patient multiple times. Believe it or not, the NC Medicaid system is set up to pay these multiple billings.

You would think the system would stop it, but it doesn't. It operates under "pay and chase", - pay the claim and chase the fraud after the fact to try to recover the money. The theory is, if providers have to prove a service before being paid, they won't sign up to be Medicaid providers and the recipients would suffer.

Other systems identify providers linked to different companies that operate throughout the state, for instance, mental health providers billing all day in-person services in Asheville the same day they bill all day in-person across the state in Wilmington. Physically impossible, but the system pays it.

What Trump and Musk seem to be trying to do is shut off the spigot when reliable indications of fraud occur, rather than waiting for administrative or judicial action before stopping fraudulent payment.

(And yes, I do know what I am talking about. And no, I am not going to find a receipt from 2006 to try to prove it. IYKYK.)
 
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NashVol11 said:
Yeah let's have it your way where the President can just ignore the judicial branch and the legislative branch too, people are really eager to submit to a king
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Careful @NashVol11, you are starting to sound like me. (Disclosure: I don't know if that is bad for you or bad for me.)
BigOrangeMojo said:
While its stupid that we are paying this, Congress appropriated the money for this reason. The reason is stupid but it is a legal appropriation of money.



In short, blame Congress...
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"Appropriated" does not mean it has to be spent. My first job out of grad school required me to administer the grant I was hired under. I didn't have to spend all that money, and and money I did not spend would have been returned to the funding source at the end of the fiscal year. Of course, that would have made the next year's grant smaller, rather than same/larger, so my superiors made sure I spend all the grant money by the end of the year. Lots of new pens, paper and copier contracts! Yeah!

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If you want to change it, pass an appropriations bill that guts this type of wasteful spending....
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This would be ideal. Congress to be Congress. Stopping the Executive Monarchy. Dang, @BigOrangeMojo , you are starting to sound like Nashvol11, who is starting to sound like me.........(Same disclosure applies.)
 
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NashVol11 said:
I'm not sure you made it to high school, because this is a bunch of useless word salad that doesn't change the fact that the President can't unilaterally freeze spending appropriated by Congress, which would effectively make him a king. You can talk yourself into it all you want but that won't change
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He absolutely has that duty if he knows, suspects and is in the process of auditing said activity especially for criminal conduct. What you are saying is that executive branch can't stop criminal activity within the executive realm, its not only legal its their duty. Actually, if you look at what Biden did with EV and internet funding that is exactly what they did.... they did not do what Congress allocated as far as spending and execution.

So, the FBI goes to your house and willful murders you and your family in cold blood (with a plan) and just because the funding they used was authorized by Congress the President and the executive branch can't stop the criminal activity from occurring but can't stop payment? What you are suggestion is not only idiotic but goes against the whole freaking Constitution.

Now go back to hating all your fellow Americans. I can only hope you haven't reproduced.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Careful @NashVol11, you are starting to sound like me. (Disclosure: I don't know if that is bad for you or bad for me.)


"Appropriated" does not mean it has to be spent. My first job out of grad school required me to administer the grant I was hired under. I didn't have to spend all that money, and and money I did not spend would have been returned to the funding source at the end of the fiscal year. Of course, that would have made the next year's grant smaller, rather than same/larger, so my superiors made sure I spend all the grant money by the end of the year. Lots of new pens, paper and copier contracts! Yeah!



This would be ideal. Congress to be Congress. Stopping the Executive Monarchy. Dang, @BigOrangeMojo , you are starting to sound like Nashvol11, who is starting to sound like me.........(Same disclosure applies.)
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What he is talking about is idiotic in nature. Hey, the Army has a plan to strike Los Angles with a nuclear weapon without authority, and the executive branch can't do anything about it.... Congress funded them.
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This is beyond idiotic beside the point that he hates his fellow American.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
If the funds are going to known illegals and the administration told them to pause an such payments than plausible deniability went out the window i.e. rogue. What is being discussed is serious federal felonies.

I find it funny that you seem to care about everyone but your fellow American. **** off.
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I know a good spot for ICE to visit next.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
He absolutely has that duty if he knows, suspects and is in the process of auditing said activity especially for criminal conduct. What you are saying is that executive branch can't stop criminal activity within the executive realm, its not only legal its their duty. Actually, if you look at what Biden did with EV and internet funding that is exactly what they did.... they did not do what Congress allocated as far as spending and execution.

So, the FBI goes to your house and willful murders you and your family in cold blood (with a plan) and just because the funding they used was authorized by Congress the President and the executive branch can't stop the criminal activity from occurring but can't stop payment? What you are suggestion is not only idiotic but goes against the whole freaking Constitution.

Now go back to hating all your fellow Americans. I can only hope you haven't reproduced.
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What exactly has he posted that would suggest the nonsense you claim in your last paragraph?

Give a specific example
 
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