2024 Presidential Race

[whodeycin85]

If Trump wins the popular vote.. Is he still a threat to democracy?

 

[LSU-SIU]

This is probably the most cogent argument for voting for Trump that I have heard in this entire election cycle.

With the wings of each party controlling policy, perhaps a little national gridlock is what we need right now.

There is no parties, there is one coin with two sides. Trump (isn't on the coin) getting elected will not save this country because its beyond repair. Gridlock at this point does not save this country.

 

[Majors]

The left will do the following in this order:

1) Manipulate the vote
2) Refuse to certify results
3) Impeach him
4) Put him in jail
5) Assassinate him

They'll stop at nothing

5. Blame Iran as a cover

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

L:MAO .... this woman is a train wreck at this point. She's certainly not an American.

 

[Sea Ray]

If Trump wins the popular vote.. Is he still a threat to democracy?

This poll says Kamala is up 5 pts nationally. That seems like a lot considering the poll also said:

• Trump (54%) leads Harris (44%) among independents who are likely to vote, widening the 4-point edge Trump (50%) had against Harris (46%) previously.

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[Majors]

Media will lie to you and wants you to believe she's winning

All about creating the need to come back. Now they have conceded Trump has flipped most swing states by 1-3 points.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I'm sure they'll no longer support doing away with the filibuster

The mischievous person in me would wait until after the election and during the lame duck session before the new Republican majority is seated, introduce a bill to eliminate the filibuster, and force the democrats to vote AGAINST what they have called for for years

 

[McDad]

If Trump wins the popular vote.. Is he still a threat to democracy?

 

[OrangeTsar]

If Trump wins the popular vote.. Is he still a threat to democracy?

They will say of course and point out that Hitler was lawfully elected in 1933

 

[OrangeTsar]

L:MAO .... this woman is a train wreck at this point. She's certainly not an American.

Since when does ANY privately owned platform need ANY oversight or approval? Does she not understand the first amendment or does she just not care???

 

[hog88]

They will say of course and point out that Hitler was lawfully elected in 1933

And they would be wrong about that too.

 

[LouderVol]

And they would be wrong about that too.

shhhhh, they don't actually want the truth.

 

[Sea Ray]

Looking at that Marist poll more carefully, the first thing that jumped out at me was that this poll said that Trump was up 10 pts with independents. That didn't seem to jive with a Kamala 5 pt lead overall. So I looked at the party affiliation of likely voters. They polled Democrats at a 7 point advantage, 40%-33%. In 2020 Dems had a one point advantage, 37%-36%. I doubt Dems will have anywhere near that sort of advantage given that the enthusiasm for Trump from Republicans is far greater than the Dem enthusiasm for Kamala. But I will say this, if Dems get a 7% advantage in turnout, yeah, they will definitely win. I just doubt that they can pull that off

I think this poll is great news for Trump. He lost independents by 13 pts to Biden. If he is anywhere near a 10 pt advantage among IND against Kamala, he's golden

2020 demographics of the electorate:

National Results 2020 President exit polls.

See National Results 2020 President exit polls.

www.cnn.com

 

[LSU-SIU]

Looking at that Marist poll more carefully, the first thing that jumped out at me was that this poll said that Trump was up 10 pts with independents. That didn't seem to jive with a Kamala 5 pt lead overall. So I looked at the party affiliation of likely voters. They polled Democrats at a 7 point advantage, 40%-33%. In 2020 Dems had a one point advantage, 37%-36%. I doubt Dems will have anywhere near that sort of advantage given that the enthusiasm for Trump from Republicans is far greater than the Dem enthusiasm for Kamala. But I will say this, if Dems get a 7% advantage in turnout, yeah, they will definitely win. I just doubt that they can pull that off

I think this poll is great news for Trump. He lost independents by 13 pts to Biden. If he is anywhere near a 10 pt advantage among IND against Kamala, he's golden

2020 demographics of the electorate:

National Results 2020 President exit polls.

See National Results 2020 President exit polls.

www.cnn.com

Seems easy, you didn't poll the cemeteries.

They better have a gag all lined up. My bet is they do. They've known that Kamel Toe will poll worse than the Ice Cream man, they knew that back before the switch. (see my posts from July)

 

[OrangeTsar]

And they would be wrong about that too.

Yeah, he didn’t win an outright majority; but those goofy parliamentary style rules allows him to horse trade enough to build a coalition (with established parties that thought they could control home )

 

[OrangeTsar]

 

[hog88]

Yeah, he didn’t win an outright majority; but those goofy parliamentary style rules allows him to horse trade enough to build a coalition (with established parties that thought they could control home )

He was appointed Chancelor, he never won an election.

 

[OrangeTsar]

He was appointed Chancelor, he never won an election.

Well, his party won enough seats then indeed is indeed a more correct statement. He was able tonforce Hindenburg to appoint him.
The point unwanted to make was that he came to power absolutely legitimately which is the argument the looney left will use to justify their implacable opposition to Trump (who as we all know, they see as LITERALLY Hitler 2.0)

 

[InVOLuntary]

L:MAO .... this woman is a train wreck at this point. She's certainly not an American.

@Jackcrevol

 

[jmacvols1]

....probably a re-creation of how Jimmy Carter voted...

 

[BreatheUT]

There is no parties, there is one coin with two sides. Trump (isn't on the coin) getting elected will not save this country because its beyond repair. Gridlock at this point does not save this country.

Good policy can't save this country, but bad policy can destroy it.

- A pastor in Virginia

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Whoever the republican nominee was would be your next racist, nazi, russian pawn, narcissist. You're already doing it to JD Vance. No republican is ever going to be Marxist enough for you.

I remember when the left called GW Bush Hitler just like they do Trump.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I remember when the left called GW Bush Hitler just like they do Trump.

It is the „boy who cried wolf“ effect writ large. The danger of course is that if we do ever have a REAL threat to democracy some day, the warning will fall on deaf ears.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Good policy can't save this country, but bad policy can destroy it.

- A pastor in Virginia

Its already destroyed, we're playing pretend.... hopefully the illusion lasts for a few more decades so I can live out my life in relative peace, but I have doubts we have that long.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Its already destroyed, we're playing pretend.... hopefully the illusion lasts for a few more decades so I can live out my life in relative peace, but I have doubts we have that long.

Another reason to wish success to Elon Musk. The Martian Repulic might be our only safe place one day.