2024 Presidential Race

[TrippieRedd]

and the media also seriously dislikes Republican women.. which is why I thought Tulsi Gabbard would have been a good running mate as an Independent.. but now, apparently she is being targeted with the watch list thing or whatever now

99% of people won’t agree because they are use to their cozy two party system, but Independent is the only way this society has a chance at making a comeback.

I’m talking about a TRUE independent, not someone putting their name in and then switching to one side once their elected.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's funny how you fellows talk about posters TO other posters. As if you have the first damn clue

Hm, fairly easy observation to see something is wrong with him. I give him a break because he is most likely elderly. Mental illness can't be ruled out, but I don't think that is going to make you feel better.

 

[Majors]

No. She did not say what you insinuated.

I'll loan you some money if you promise to buy a clue.

That’s a cute line that may work with your checkers club. She said what she said. Which was coined the term “deplorable” to the opposing party. Sounds as though she was being Trumpism to her own crowd. Irony

 

[utvolpj]

At the time she said that trump had nowhere near 80 millions true supporters.

I would say probably no more than 12-15 million belong in the basket.

Your estimate is irrelevant given that we have her words. But you're right, it would be a bit over 30mil which is not nearly enough to call it a lie like you did. Hillary absolutely knew what she was saying and so do you. She's a turd not worth defending but she's on the left so you do it anyways.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Probably none from Harris, but Trump's aren't any good either. It's a lesser of two evils. You have often posted such uninformed nonsense about Trump's policies without really being able to give any articulate view as to why, and certainly with little details and nuance. You should know better as a moderator, but that is one of the great ironies of this forum.

This is utter nonsense. Personal attacks are irrelevant. The policies I support mostly require no explanation:
- end reliance on energy from foreign (adversarial) nations
- border control (job flooding, fentanyl, terrorists, sex trafficking)
- preservation of 2nd A rights
- stronger international security (see: wars under B/H, disastrous Afgan withdrawal, etc)
- maintain states rights (including with abortion laws)
- smaller fed gov
- less government control of education system
- allow personal decisions on energy choices (EVs, appliances, etc)

Appvol posted a nice summary above

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I'd love for somebody to explain which of KH's policies are better for the country than those of DT.

There are very few politicians I like, and even fewer that I trust. Screw your feelings and their personalities. When it comes to the General election (and especially now), I vote on policies.

Policy wise, Trump is the lesser of two evils. There is more than policies to consider though for POTUS: leadership and decision making.

Trump's biggest weaknesses are decision making and leadership; however, Kamala is just as bad if not worse here...

 

[utvolpj]

This is utter nonsense. Personal attacks are irrelevant. The policies I support mostly require no explanation:
- end reliance on energy from foreign (adversarial) nations
- border control (job flooding, fentanyl, terrorists, sex trafficking)
- preservation of 2nd A rights
- stronger international security (see: wars under B/H, disastrous Afgan withdrawal, etc)
- maintain states rights (including with abortion laws)
- smaller fed gov
- less government control of education system
- allow personal decisions on energy choices (EVs, appliances, etc)

Appvol posted a nice summary above

Trump will really do very few of those. The ones he attempts will be superficial.

 

[LadyVolette]

99% of people won’t agree because they are use to their cozy two party system, but Independent is the only way this society has a chance at making a comeback.

I’m talking about a TRUE independent, not someone putting their name in and then switching to one side once their elected.

I see a Republican picking up an Independent more quickly than a Democrat, Kamala just confirmed my theory when she went full psycho with Walz They aren’t interested in Moderates or middle America

 

[LSU-SIU]

Policy wise, Trump is the lesser of two evils. There is more than policies to consider though for POTUS: leadership and decision making.

Trump's biggest weaknesses are decision making and leadership; however, Kamala is just as bad if not worse here...

Who are the good decision makers and leaders?

 

[utvolpj]

Trump's biggest weaknesses are decision making and leadership; however, Kamala is just as bad if not worse here...

Those are kind of important for a chief executive. How have we gotten to a point where choices for potus are scraping the bottom of the barrel?

Trump's campaign is just so bad right now. He's just a rambling, angry old man.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

This is utter nonsense. Personal attacks are irrelevant. The policies I support mostly require no explanation:
- end reliance on energy from foreign (adversarial) nations
- border control (job flooding, fentanyl, terrorists, sex trafficking)
- preservation of 2nd A rights
- stronger international security (see: wars under B/H, disastrous Afgan withdrawal, etc)
- maintain states rights (including with abortion laws)
- smaller fed gov
- less government control of education system
- allow personal decisions on energy choices (EVs, appliances, etc)

Appvol posted a nice summary above

Those all sound good. Preservation of 2a rights? You don't have to worry about that. That's been a reactionary, fear mongering narrative for the last 25 years. In case you haven't noticed, gun rights have been enhanced.SMH

 

[CobbVol]

Sure thing man. He's an unlikeable candidate. It's that simple. But please keep nominating him. He will keep losing. It's crazy yall don't get that

Neither candidate are what I want sitting in the oval office. However, this election is a zero-sum game election in less than 3 months. We will either get Trump for 4 more years or a socialist/communist administration to govern us for the next 8 years. Reagan or JFK are not walking through the door.

You can vote for RFK or the Libertarian candidate and get a couple more steps in the general direction of utopia. You can also not vote and claim the internet high ground for the next 4 years saying I did not vote for whoever wins. Kinda like a UT fan complaining on Monday about the 3rd down play calling last Saturday.

So it will be either Trump or the socialist/communist in the WH and when you look at the policies they have/will support and take out emotions it is an easy choice for me.

 

[LadyVolette]

Can’t believe Omar won.


Someone just come and shoot me. Yes, I’m being serious

It’s the demographics of her district

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

This is utter nonsense. Personal attacks are irrelevant. The policies I support mostly require no explanation:
- end reliance on energy from foreign (adversarial) nations
- border control (job flooding, fentanyl, terrorists, sex trafficking)
- preservation of 2nd A rights
- stronger international security (see: wars under B/H, disastrous Afgan withdrawal, etc)
- maintain states rights (including with abortion laws)
- smaller fed gov
- less government control of education system
- allow personal decisions on energy choices (EVs, appliances, etc)

Appvol posted a nice summary above

Energy independence requires diversified energy policy (renewables + less regs). Neither side wants that. Trump’s policy here is better but far from perfect.

Immigration - Trump had 4 years to enforce existing laws. He chose not to since it would impact his ag/construction base. Eliminate incentive for illegals to come. Both parties fail miserably here although Kamala failed more.

Noted on 2A.

If 2020 showed us anything, it was using the pandemic as a fed $$$$ money printing power grab (CDC, NIH, FPUC). Trump dont believe in state's rights unless politically prudent (abortion) for him. State's rights needs to be a core belief, not a politically expedient one.

Smaller federal govt - look at debt/deficit spending. Smaller govt/less regulations is good. But cutting bureaucracy you dont like and adding bureaucracy you do like isnt a great plan. It's a better plan than excessive bureaucracy like KH wants.

Personal choice is key. Of course, this needs to be a core belief and not just on issues Rs like...

 

[LadyVolette]

Can’t believe Omar won.


Someone just come and shoot me. Yes, I’m being serious

It’s the demographics of her district they would vote for a potato if it was wearing a turban or hijab

 

[Vol8188]

If you say so

You’re unaware? I can provide the receipts

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Yes .... because the purpose behind the multifetal reduction performed during IVF services, is often to help ensure a healthy pregnancy for both the mother, as well as the unborn child/children. Those fetuses will, in many cases, not be viable. You are only breaking it down in terms of being "if you don't want so many babies."

Your perspective on this is more than narrow. It is far-right zealotry. It's cutting off your nose to spot your face. Otherwise infertile women being able to experience child birth through IVF should only be regarded as a great thing.

I’m very clear on IVF, I’m not making assumptions. It would have never been an option for me if I was childless.
Poopy head.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

You’re unaware? I can provide the receipts

WTF? You can't prove he knew anymore than you about it

 

[TrippieRedd]

It’s the demographics of her district they would vote for a potato if it was wearing a turban or hijab

At this point I’d rather the world just end

 

[Vol8188]

WTF? You can't prove he knew anymore than you about it

When you say anymore than I knew about it, it’s been obvious for a long time now to anyone paying attention

Around to Scarborough approx 4 months before the debate this was the best Joe Biden he’d ever seen in a number of domains to include “intellectually”.

You believe him?

 

[LouderVol]

Ted Kennedy was never POTUS.

Clearly you didn't read my entire post

you said Trump was the most unique character who had ever been on the political SCENE in history.

even if you want to limit "scene" to the US, it would be wrong. even if you limit it to just US presidents I doubt he is the most "unique". he is just the most unique in the era of 24hr news coverage. what you/the public know about, and what actually is true are two vastly different things.

most americans didn't know FDR had Polio and was wheelchair bound. no modern president is getting that level of protection now. and if they were covering up FDR being a polio cripple, there is plenty of other they covered up back in the day.

JFK was most certainly having an affair in office with probably the most famous actress of the era. I don't know if Jackie was pregnant during any of that. Clinton used a cigar in his escapades. W had a history with crack, allegedly. Nixon had his moments.

LBJ has so many stories about what he got into they sound made up. driving one of those cars that float into the water without telling the passengers. He trapped a congressional member in a corner and physically stopped him for leaving until he got his way, several hours apparently. he had several events described as paranoid breakdowns, where he lashed out physically at his aides and even foreign dignitaries. stories of him physically forcing himself on women, some extremely young, the 18 yo boundary wasn't a thing back then, and the Me Too movement certainly didnt exist. swinger parties, using recording of animals (usually horses) having sex to make people uncomfortable. there apparently wasn't any line he wouldn't cross when negotiating with his so called "Johnson Treatment". asking to see various scars, the bit in Forrest Gump is a poke at that. There are a couple books on the matter, Goodwin one of his aides wrote one with several stories, another was Johnson's Humor. or maybe it was LBJ's Humor, I can't remember off the top of my head.

 

[Sea Ray]

Why should she? Seems like a winning a strategy. Her goal is to win an election

It's a dandy strategy on her part. The point here is the Press. Why are they giving her cover? They're still giving her glorious coverage and not insisting on her giving interviews to the American people. A democracy depends on a free and unbiased press

 

[hog88]

It's a dandy strategy on her part. The point here is the Press. Why are they giving her cover? They're still giving her glorious coverage and not insisting on her giving interviews to the American people. A democracy depends on a free and unbiased press

We haven't even been a democratic republic since the early 1900s.

 

[Majors]

WTF? You can't prove he knew anymore than you about it

You’re trolling game is struggling like your memory.

When you say anymore than I knew about it, it’s been obvious for a long time now to anyone paying attention

Around to Scarborough approx 4 months before the debate this was the best Joe Biden he’d ever seen in a number of domains to include “intellectually”.

You believe him?

oh my, this was just a few weeks ago. Boasting how much time he has doesn’t with Joe. Claiming he’s #1 in regards to journalist doesn’t with the President.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Trump will really do very few of those. The ones he attempts will be superficial.

Respectfully, his actions and direct policies positively impact every one of these.