Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

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MontyPython said:
Dude. Redonculous post.

I mean seriously... I couldn't make it past your 1st couple line items.

Just throw away all your thinking and start over.
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oddly devoid of specific arguments if its so easy to refute.

that was a straight link to how the government spends our money. and instead of addressing how our government spends our money you are just dodging.
 
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So the FBI wants to get to the bottom of it was a bullet or shrapnel that hit Trump's ear but do not want to get to the bottom as to why the massive failure on part of the usss.

www.newsweek.com

Donald Trump may not have been hit by bullet, FBI director says

FBI director Christopher Wray testified that his understanding was that Trump might have been hit by shrapnel rather than a bullet on July 13.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
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midnight orange said:
Here is the US census data. Rationing also ended in the summer of 1945 (quality of life). The Keynesian’s were predicting returning vets would return home to massive unemployment due to the gdp decrease from war spending. The opposite happened although unemployment increased about 3%. Could be due to women leaving the workforce.


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I thought there was a recession in 1946/1947 because of the reduced manufacturing demand after the war? I'm going off memory, so I have to go back and look later on.
 
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MontyPython said:
No. No. No.

That's clearly the part you fail to comprehend. There is no paying down a nation's principle.

Need proof? The USA has had a national debt since the founding of our country. And yet here we are, gramps... the greatest national economically on earth.

250+ years, dude.

Checkmate.

Do us all a favor. Learn how logrithmic graphs work. Maybe, just maybe, this will slowly help you wrap your arms around how things work.

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Andrew Jackson paid off our debt. So no... we have not always been a debtor.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
So the FBI wants to get to the bottom of it was a bullet or shrapnel that hit Trump's ear but do not want to get to the bottom as to why the massive failure on part of the usss.

www.newsweek.com

Donald Trump may not have been hit by bullet, FBI director says

FBI director Christopher Wray testified that his understanding was that Trump might have been hit by shrapnel rather than a bullet on July 13.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Could they just tell me why SS wanted him killed?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I understand what this is implying but no drone was needed to save a person's life.

THEY
ALL
KNEW
HE
WAS
THERE
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I think it's just the fact there was no 'air cover' at all.....no drones, no helicopters shows that there was little concern about Trump's protection before the event even took place.
 
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During Tuesday’s House Homeland Security Committee hearing on the Trump rally shooting, Congressman Correa (he is a Democrat by the way) explained he recently visited the fairgrounds where the Trump assassination attempt took place.

He said, “I had local law enforcement officers, local electeds coming to me, whispering to me, ‘There’s more here to the story. We need to talk about what actually happened.’”

To have people that were on the ground concerned, afraid of stepping forward is unacceptable… To tell us about other failures that maybe this committee does not know about yet.”

One local officer reportedly told the congressman it took fifteen minutes for the department to be able to communicate with Secret Service after spotting the shooter Thomas Crooks.

He also claimed a local elected official shared insider information he was too scared to release publicly.

“A couple of folks there kind of hinted to me that everybody locally is not comfortable going out and giving their opinion,” Correa said.






 
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jmacvols1 said:
I think it's just the fact there was no 'air cover' at all.....no drones, no helicopters shows that there was little concern about Trump's protection before the event even took place.
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I know.

If they just tell us why they just why didn't they say,"Hey Orange Man, not sure you want to go up there... there is a guy on the roof with a gun".

Someone wanted him killed, probably someones.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So I just heard that the shooter had 3 cellphones? And they were all encrypted? Is this something a 20 year old would usually have access and funding to have?
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They would need to define encrypted. Many would count using something like Signal as encryption. Similar to how they describe the person's "arsenal" when there's a shooting
 
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Wonder if a result of (encouraged by) assassination attempt.

Multiple reports on this. 80 year old man run down from behind in his own yard, forget the following vandalism. Now the murderer (22 year old male) is dead, suicide (they think). Guess the old man should have stayed out of his yard. Right? (Please don’t tell me I should have used blue font.)

MSN

“An 80-year-old man putting up Trump election signs in his front yard was run over by an ATV driver during what police believe was a politically motivated crime spree in a small town in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. The victim was left in critical condition and the suspect was found dead by suicide the next day.

Local authorities in the swing state condemned political violence in the wake of an assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump during an especially tense election year.

On Sunday evening around 5:45 p.m., a 22-year-old man driving an ATV in a Hancock neighborhood stopped in front of a house with multiple Trump election signs posted in the front yard, Hancock Police Lt. David Outinen told CNN.

The 22-year-old ripped the signs out of the lawn, threw them in the street and drove away on the ATV. Shortly after, the suspect returned on the ATV as the 80-year-old resident tried to put the signs back up in the yard. The suspect veered off the road and hit the 80-year-old from behind, Outinen said.

The 80-year-old was transported to a local hospital, where he was in critical condition, police said.

Around 7:45 p.m. on the same day, police received a report of a vandalized pickup truck displaying a “thin blue line” sticker, used to show support for law enforcement. A valve stem on one of the tires was cut, leading to a flattened tire, according to Outinen.

Police received another report of a vandalized pickup truck in the area around 8:05 p.m. A shovel was used to smash the windshield of the truck, which displayed a Trump bumper sticker. The truck was left with broken windows, smashed taillights and flattened tires, Outinen said.

Police believe the 22-year-old suspect is responsible for the incidents, after collecting video surveillance of him in all three locations, Hancock Police Chief Tami Sleeman told CNN.

The next day, police received a message from someone at an address in neighboring Quincy Township saying they wanted to “confess a crime involving an ATV driver within the last 24 hours” and asking them to “send someone to pick me up,” the Houghton County Sheriff’s Office said in a release.

Police say when responders arrived at the residence, they found the 22-year-old suspect had died by suicide. Authorities have not identified him. At the scene – less than 3 miles from where the 80-year-old was struck – police found the ATV and the clothes the suspect had worn during the attack on the 80-year-old man, according to the release.

Several electronic devices recovered from the residence where the suspect was found will be searched by computer forensic specialists, according to the sheriff’s office.

There is no indication the suspect knew any of the victims, and he had no prior history with the Hancock Police Department, Outinen said.

The sheriff’s office said it is working with local and state authorities, including the FBI, on the ongoing investigation.”

People really need to condemn violence and also those who support or approve violence as acceptable.
‘I wish he had been shot in the forehead. I have no hate in my soul.’ Anyone see that video of a loving looney?
 
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VolinWayne said:
During Tuesday’s House Homeland Security Committee hearing on the Trump rally shooting, Congressman Correa (he is a Democrat by the way) explained he recently visited the fairgrounds where the Trump assassination attempt took place.

He said, “I had local law enforcement officers, local electeds coming to me, whispering to me, ‘There’s more here to the story. We need to talk about what actually happened.’”

To have people that were on the ground concerned, afraid of stepping forward is unacceptable… To tell us about other failures that maybe this committee does not know about yet.”

One local officer reportedly told the congressman it took fifteen minutes for the department to be able to communicate with Secret Service after spotting the shooter Thomas Crooks.

He also claimed a local elected official shared insider information he was too scared to release publicly.

“A couple of folks there kind of hinted to me that everybody locally is not comfortable going out and giving their opinion,” Correa said.






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I don't know if there was some conspiracy or not....... But the people shouldn't fear their government to this extent. The government should be a lot more fearful of it's people than they appear to be though.
 
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LouderVol said:
oddly devoid of specific arguments if its so easy to refute.

that was a straight link to how the government spends our money. and instead of addressing how our government spends our money you are just dodging.
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Ugh. Fine.

All your points miss.

For example, your 1st point, Social Security. These funds are amassed by individuals through lifetime deductions and are owed back to the same individuals upon retirement.

To call this "complete loss" ignores the fact that this government expenditure is effectively a dedicated pass-through.

Next time you make a full on retarded list, try to at least get to point 2 before falling off the rails. Wasting our time.
 
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MontyPython said:
Ugh. Fine.

All your points miss.

For example, your 1st point, Social Security. These funds are amassed by individuals through lifetime deductions and are owed back to the same individuals upon retirement.

To call this "complete loss" ignores the fact that this government expenditure is effectively a dedicated pass-through.

Next time you make a full on retarded list, try to at least get to point 2 before falling off the rails. Wasting our time.
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lol, it is 100% not returned to the same individual upon retirement. even today, if you make more than 70k at retirement you will NEVER get back the money you put in. if you make about 65k at retirement you have to live to 90 to get your money back.

and what about the friction of the system? Someone has to pay all those SS employees for the work they do. There are more than 60k SS employees. even at a VERY VERY modest 15 dollars an hour that is almost 2 billion a year just for salary alone. probably double that for benefits, and double it again, because they are all making more than 15 an hour.

and your pass thru is running out of money, and they will have to change how benefits work, hardly an efficient system that you can claim is neutral on the books.
 
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