Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

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n_huffhines said:
No, it's not. Are you kidding? It depends on why he was registered R
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I'm saying it's irrelevant because there was a big movement of liberals registering in primaries to vote against Trump. Once again, zero percent chance he was an actual Republican.
 
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volinsd said:
All of that is easily addressed by placing just 1 officer on top of that building the morning of. One person for security.

Think about how basic the answer to the security problem was.

One officer on the one roof that's close.

if our government is that inept, during a event like this.....
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What was the status of those buildings? If the police or SS had access than they should have had someone up there... there literally was only two places to worry about....1. water tower which was much further away and 2. those building rooftops.

If they didn't have access to those building than it might be explained that way. idk
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The question to me is, were those buildings part of the event or was it other private property?

The SS does have a hard job here if its private property not part of the event. Technically, a person can stand on their own roof with a gun as long as they're not pointing it. (Not a smart thing to do in this situation though)

Multiple failures on this one.
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Private property didn't matter. If a nut job with a warehouse told them the week before that they couldn't use his roof for security, they would have chose another destination or would have had so many people beside it that a shooting wouldn't occur.
 
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Shipwreckedcrew
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Let's put forward some facts about the career of the Kimberly Cheattle, current head of the USSS:

She first joined the USSS in 1995, and retired in late 2019. When she retired she was Assistant Direçtor of Protective Operations. She had previously served as Special Agent in Charge of the Atlanta USSS Office.

She was a member of the VP Protective Detail during the Obama Admin, including some time as a supervisor. That brought her into direct contact with the Bidens.

After Trump was elected she moved to Deputy Assistant Director of USSS for Training, and later Assistant Director for Protective Operations, the position she held when she retired.

She then went into Corporate Security for Pepsico.

But an interview she gave for the publication "Women In Security" -- combined with what she's done since becoming USSS Director -- is interesting:

“I kept a photo on my desk of the first five women sworn into the service, and I used that to remind me that these women created opportunities for me and I can help others grow and lead as well.”

There is a video that has been posted in numerous places where, as Director, she talks about the need to diversify the ranks of the USSS and has established a goal of hiring 30% female USSS Agents by 2030.

Did I mention that she is the recipient of the "Women in Federal Law Enforcement Public Service Award."

Notice a pattern?

She was appointed by Biden in Aug. 2022 shortly after the USSS came under fire after claiming that all its communications from Jan 6 were "unavailable."

But for some reason, in 2021 -- two years after she left Govt for Pepsico -- she was given a Presidential Rank Award.

All that really is is a cash bonus for Senior Executive Service members -- the highest level of Civil Service in the Govt. The cash award is 20% of their base salary.

It seems odd to me that Biden would gift her a $40,000 cash bonus more that 2 years after she left Govt service, and then 8 months later name her to head the USSS.

In addition, it seems like another example of Biden elevating someone personally close to him AND DR. JILL -- and I think likely more so Jill than him -- to a position of high importance where keeping the family's secrets was a necessity.

Reminds me of Catherine Russell -- Dr. Jill's Chief of Staff while Second Lady -- who was named Dir. of WH Personnel Office at the start of the Biden Admin. That job put her in charge of the Office that vetted all political appointees in all Exec. Branch Depts and Agencies for the new Admin.

Time for Dir. Cheattle to answer questions before Congress.
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volinsd said:
Private property didn't matter. If a nut job with a warehouse told them the week before that they couldn't use his roof for security, they would have chose another destination or would have had so many people beside it that a shooting wouldn't occur.
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Yes it does. (I don't know the status of the building btw) If the owner doesn't give them access than that's that.

On the ground might have worked but probably would have been tough to get him from down below quickly. The only quick way in that situation was a sniper with a little height to help.
 
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TheDirector said:
Secret Service reports to DHS. Alejandro Mayorkas should lose his job ASAP! He is a complete failure and there is no excuse that any ex-President can have a sniper that close to him at an event. Much less get off 8 shots before being put down.
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I thought the SS fell under the treasury.
 
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Well, the FBI is investigating now. Lucky us. Final word will be “lone actor”, no comment wrt witnesses pointing out the shooter on the rooftop (might even hear “LE was not made aware of the shooter beforehand that we are aware of”), “we are committed to blah, blah, blah”. Case closed. Move along. I’m just waiting for “Trump incited this violence by running for President again and should withdraw”. After sleeping on it, yeah, there’s a colossal failure, intentional or not, in all of this. What a total screw up. I do give total credit to the SS agents that shielded Trump when things went down.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
What was the status of those buildings? If the police or SS had access than they should have had someone up there... there literally was only two places to worry about....1. water tower which was much further away and 2. those building rooftops.

If they didn't have access to those building than it might be explained that way. idk
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What I meant was they absolutely had access to the building. Why would they not.

If they didn't have access, they would have automatically considered it a place of importance and had an immense presence there.
 
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Vol737 said:
Well, the FBI is investigating now. Lucky us. Final word will be “lone actor”, no comment wrt witnesses pointing out the shooter on the rooftop (might even hear “LE was not made aware of the shooter beforehand that we are aware of”), “we are committed to blah, blah, blah”. Case closed. Move along. I’m just waiting for “Trump incited this violence by running for President again and should withdraw”. After sleeping on it, yeah, there’s a colossal failure, intentional or not, in all of this. What a total screw up. I do give total credit to the SS agents that shielded Trump when things went down.
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Yea this one is a tough one right now. I would say the facts point that he was basically it but why all these major mistakes. These were very basic rules that they didn't seem to follow or care about.

Why wasn't Trump taken off stage as soon as they saw the guy? (rifle at that distance with a scope would be easy to see)
 
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volinsd said:
What I meant was they absolutely had access to the building. Why would they not.

If they didn't have access, they would have automatically considered it a place of importance and had an immense presence there.
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Yeah. I'm just saying they might not have been able to put someone up there.

Multiple major failures here, no doubt there.
 
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LadyVolette said:
Well, if you noticed, there were kids in the the audience, but carry on..Also, the fact that you apparently see an assassination on a former President/current presidential candidate should be treated as no big deal is astounding to me…and using this as an opportunity to try and say ‘see’.. is equally tacky
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People are definitely showing their true colors. Make note.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's it? That's all the facts that you have?

You cannot draw the conclusion you so desperately want to draw from just that.
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I've seen you draw from much less. And it's not the crazy leap you believe it is to say the guy who shot Trump most likely isn't a Republican. Seems kinda like common sense. But sure I'm too definite in my belief. It is possible the shooter was Republican (although that chance is miniscule).
 
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