War in Ukraine

[BigOrangeTrain]

If you're struggling to follow the thread, then you should probably read more posts before responding.

I suspected this kind of respond from you. You are just like many other rubes in here. Maybe you need to do some more research into your foreign hero. You are actively supporting a dictator.

 

[BeardedVol]

I suspected this kind of respond from you. You are just like many other rubes in here. Maybe you need to do some more research into your foreign hero. You are actively supporting a dictator.

If you want to try to save face for being snookered by Russian propaganda, by playing a fool who can't manage to follow a message board thread, feel free to do so.

 

[MontyPython]

I suspected this kind of respond from you. You are just like many other rubes in here. Maybe you need to do some more research into your foreign hero. You are actively supporting a dictator.

On the whole recent Lincoln theme, I gather you also consider Lincoln a "dictator" like Zelensky for having suspended Habeas Corpus, right?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Can you put a price on freedom?

-Megadeth

$1.05

-Team America

 

[LSU-SIU]

What Russian propaganda are you talking about? Serious question why do you and others still support sending money to a foreign dictator?

I went ahead and blocked him or most likely "it", all it is doing is vomiting the stupid CIA propaganda and woke nonsense. It is not here to discuss in any real way. All it does is google stuff that makes no or little sense in context than claims everything is fact that he posts. It still won't answer when he plans on joining up with the Comedian.

The posting of bar charts was funny though, it had no idea why military exports from Russia went down drastically i.e. zero ability to critically think. A good portion of the young population have a very hard time to critically think. Probably triple masked (diaper) up as well.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

The posting of bar charts was funny though, it had no idea why military exports from Russia went down drastically i.e. zero ability to critically think. A good portion of the young population have a very hard time to critically think. Probably triple masked (diaper) up as well.

This can't be overstated. It was done on purpose to our kids by the dept of education. Logic and reason are no longer taught at all. I went to a private school "Boyd-Buchanan" as a kid and we still were doing sentential statements even in elementary. That is dead in all education now. We no longer seriously really teach Aristotle or Socrates except for a cursory who they were.

 

[BeardedVol]

I went ahead and blocked him or most likely "it", all it is doing is vomiting the stupid CIA propaganda and woke nonsense. It is not here to discuss in any real way. All it does is google stuff that makes no or little sense in context than claims everything is fact that he posts. It still won't answer when he plans on joining up with the Comedian.

The posting of bar charts was funny though, it had no idea why military exports from Russia went down drastically i.e. zero ability to critically think. A good portion of the young population have a very hard time to critically think. Probably triple masked (diaper) up as well.

Obligatory.

 

[LSU-SIU]

This can't be overstated. It was done on purpose to our kids by the dept of education. Logic and reason are no longer taught at all. I went to a private school "Boyd-Buchanan" as a kid and we still were doing sentential statements even in elementary. That is dead in all education now. We no longer seriously really teach Aristotle or Socrates except for a cursory who they were.

Yup. They have no critical thinking skills, resort to just using google. You point out what they googled isn't relevant, they just go back to googling. (You should see the discussion It and I had on the decrease of Russian military exports - beyond bizarre) I still don't think It even understood what we were saying and it was even in the article It googled and posted.

Its all very strange. It is probably tripled diapered up and is going to google how safe it is. It just repeats strange things that are completely out of context.

Of course, all of this was kind of predicted. A completely wasted generation, its going to be funny to watch this joint in 20 years. They're going to be wondering why the interwebs stops working and they won't be able to google it.

 

[volbound1700]

This can't be overstated. It was done on purpose to our kids by the dept of education. Logic and reason are no longer taught at all. I went to a private school "Boyd-Buchanan" as a kid and we still were doing sentential statements even in elementary. That is dead in all education now. We no longer seriously really teach Aristotle or Socrates except for a cursory who they were.

I have heard of Boyd-Buchanan... for some reason I thought it was a Public School.

 

[LouderVol]

just something I am randomly curious about, I wonder about how they count the drones? with the tendency towards a lot of kamikaze drones on both sides, that is going to up any numbers lost. or if a kamikaze drone is shot down is it really a "loss" because they weren't expecting it to return home.

Maybe they should because they are counting cruise missile kills as well, those are definitely one way trips. *shrug*

 

[LSU-SIU]

just something I am randomly curious about, I wonder about how they count the drones? with the tendency towards a lot of kamikaze drones on both sides, that is going to up any numbers lost. or if a kamikaze drone is shot down is it really a "loss" because they weren't expecting it to return home.

Maybe they should because they are counting cruise missile kills as well, those are definitely one way trips. *shrug*

The real question is - why are they not on the other side of Moscow now? They want you to believe crazy stupid ****, when you go with their narrative they get all mad.

Clearly the Ukrainians don't need our help.

 

[volbound1700]

The real question is - why are they not on the other side of Moscow now? They want you to believe crazy stupid ****, when you go with their narrative they get all mad.

Clearly the Ukrainians don't need our help.

Perhaps because Russia had a far larger stockpile of military equipment going into the war, 4x the total population of Ukraine, and has the largest land area of any nation on Earth (but they need more land lol).

The fact that Ukraine is holding them off is a huge win. Basically it is the equivalent of UL Monroe being in a football game with a Kirby Smart Georgia Team in the 4th Quarter.

 

[LouderVol]

Slavyangrad

◾ Arestovich claims that Russian men in their 40s are flocking to the hospitals in order to get healthy to join the Army, because it brings them good salaries and pride. At the same time Ukrainian men go to hospitals and medical surgeons trying to bribe someone to get a certificate to avoid...

t.me

then why did Putin just have to conscript another 150k men? That doesn't sound like there is a long line of volunteers.

They have also had to raise and lower the conscription age to find enough bodies.

Its not just Ukraine struggling to find fighters. Both have resorted to the exact same measures. closing borders, forced conscriptions, extending service qualifications.

its bloody, and it cuts both ways.

 

[LouderVol]

Oh yes, the ongoing name calling, you guys sure can't debate on ideas or substance you must resort to name calling because emotional, fragile, children struggle with debate

that's real quick for the pot to call the kettle black.

 

[dalton_vol]

that's real quick for the pot to call the kettle black.

Im not calling names, i don't call people putin stooge because they voted against that bad bill. That's what the left, and some right, is doing. They can't debate substance. Do people think at 40billion is going to change anything?

 

[volbound1700]

Im not calling names, i don't call people putin stooge because they voted against that bad bill. That's what the left, and some right, is doing.

You are more in line with a solid argument against Ukraine. I haven't seen you on here actively rooting for USA's downfall and the Rise of Russia like Ras. You are just proposing that we should stay out of other's business and fix our debt.

I can get behind that mentality. No reason to call you a Putin stooge.

 

[BeardedVol]

just something I am randomly curious about, I wonder about how they count the drones? with the tendency towards a lot of kamikaze drones on both sides, that is going to up any numbers lost. or if a kamikaze drone is shot down is it really a "loss" because they weren't expecting it to return home.

Maybe they should because they are counting cruise missile kills as well, those are definitely one way trips. *shrug*

I've not seen it clarified, but I would wager to guess that a drone that is intentionally destroyed in an offensive action, is considered a 'munition', whereas an offensive drone neutralized prior to reaching it's target is counted as 'drone loss'.

 

[dalton_vol]

You are more in line with a solid argument against Ukraine. I haven't seen you on here actively rooting for USA's downfall and the Rise of Russia like Ras. You are just proposing that we should stay out of other's business and fix our debt.

I can get behind that mentality. No reason to call you a Putin stooge.

What Putin did was wrong, no doubt about that but is America going to use all of our weapons to help ukraine? It seems to me it's more of a numbers game, Russia has more soldiers than Ukraine. Ukraine will need to take out large amounts of soldiers to turn the tide.. if America is truly serious about defeating russia, we will need to send troops. People from ukraine go to my church and it really sad what's going in there.
Either peace should be brokered or America needs to send troops. I dont see putin stopping

People call Green a putin stooge, yet we have so many problem on our own soil that should be prioritized. That's what she's standing for.

 

[tnmarktx]

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/21/hakeem-jeffries-speaker-mike-johnson-israel-ukraine

Proof that the uniparty is in power. Party affiliation does not matter.

 

[LouderVol]

The real question is - why are they not on the other side of Moscow now? They want you to believe crazy stupid ****, when you go with their narrative they get all mad.

Clearly the Ukrainians don't need our help.

because you have no objective understanding of how this war actually works, or what the actual information being quoted actually means. instead you attach your own illogical conclusions that it is somehow tracking "winning"; and that the only way to track who is "winning" is by losses to man and material.

now if the Russians wanted to provide their own reckoning of what Ukraine has lost, broken down similarly and tracked over time, we could make SOME deductions of simply comparing losses, but it would still not directly translate to one side winning or losing. and at least as far as I have seen, both here and elsewhere, that tracking doesn't exist on the Russian side.

I keep telling you this is the Winter War. The Finns lost proportionally more men, weapons, equipment, and land than the Russians did, but was able to force a favorable peace treaty. That is what I am thinking is going on here. Ukraine doesn't need to make it to Moscow to win, heck I don't even think they have to retake all of Ukraine to win. not that I think Ukraine is winning; just pointing out you have an incredibly foolish view of what victory means.

 

[LouderVol]

Im not calling names, i don't call people putin stooge because they voted against that bad bill. That's what the left, and some right, is doing. They can't debate substance. Do people think at 40billion is going to change anything?

you called them "emotional, fragile, children".

that is name calling.

 

[CobbVol]

 

[BeardedVol]

@volgr is it "Death Cult™ ish" to make a video game about your ongoing attempt to genocide the citizens of another country, with the main character being a man that you outright killed in real llife?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Perhaps because Russia had a far larger stockpile of military equipment going into the war, 4x the total population of Ukraine, and has the largest land area of any nation on Earth (but they need more land lol).

The fact that Ukraine is holding them off is a huge win. Basically it is the equivalent of UL Monroe being in a football game with a Kirby Smart Georgia Team in the 4th Quarter.

If those numbers were remotely true, they would be sitting in Moscow. If the Ukrainians were killing Russians at a 1:10-20 ratio than they would be able to destroy the whole Russian army by now.

Its a huge win for those pretending a lie is the Truth, once the lie is exposed than people get mad.

 

[sonofUT62]

Curious. Whom in your estimation would be a good judge of a prior President if not a "scholar" and/or historian?

Well in Lincoln’s case we could start with the citizens of Kennesaw and Acworth GA. They’ll be happy to explain that there are antebellum houses in Cartersville to the north and Marietta to the South. There are none in those two towns because Abe ordered everything burned even though 99% of the starving population that he displaced were women and children. War crimimal.