Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Weezer]

I would never dare to call you a communist. That would just be mean.

I just figure you probably put a little weight on after you ate all those Russian kids on that mountain that time...

Still waiting on you to prove that was me, Sherlock Holmes. If the glove does not fit, you must acquit!

 

[LaagerVol]

I have a unique position in that I deal with young people all day long. It would surprise a lot of people if they knew that a large segment of today's young "fans" hardly ever watch a game in any sport. The get updates on there phone and watch highlights. In baseball watching a highlight of a homerun gives you no insight into how it happened. You won't know that it was because he worked a favorable count or fought of several tough two strike pitches and the pitcher finally makes a mistake.
Today's young fans know stats (they are easy to google), players, and final scores. The know very little about the actual sport. There used to be a saying in the sixties, "never trust anyone over thirty." Today it is, "never trust a sport fan under thirty."

But kids aren’t the only ones who find baseball less interesting than other sports. This isn’t a recent trend. It isn’t so much about knowledge of the sport, it’s that football and basketball are flat out more exciting. Imo the decline of baseball has little to do with society, and more to do with the rise of football and basketball.

 

[Orange.]

I almost feel guilty for going off on bruh , but I couldn't take it anymore.

 

[LaagerVol]

I have a unique position in that I deal with young people all day long. It would surprise a lot of people if they knew that a large segment of today's young "fans" hardly ever watch a game in any sport. The get updates on there phone and watch highlights. In baseball watching a highlight of a homerun gives you no insight into how it happened. You won't know that it was because he worked a favorable count or fought of several tough two strike pitches and the pitcher finally makes a mistake.
Today's young fans know stats (they are easy to google), players, and final scores. The know very little about the actual sport. There used to be a saying in the sixties, "never trust anyone over thirty." Today it is, "never trust a sport fan under thirty."

Also, you and I probably agree more than we disagree about society. I just don’t see a the correlation you see.

One last thing and I will hush. Most of this debate probably could have been avoided if your original post didn’t say people are too dumb these days to understand or like baseball lol

 

[Weezer]

Awesome. Cant wait. Assume he's quit his City job, and moved to a small Virginia town, where he operated a lumber mill during the depression? Raised 9 children?

I only remember 7 Walton children. John Boy, Jason, Erin, Mary Ellen, Ben, Jim Bob, and Elizabeth.

 

[rikberry31]

I see we are working with two different levels of education, "smarts", and intelligence in this discussion. In fact, it's pretty obvious. And sadly, I fear you're defeating my fact-based argument with your existence.

You can't just make up your own definition of things.

Let's start from the top:
"I didn't say people were not as intelligent now, just less educated, dumber".
Where does that sentence make any sense? 1st of all, humans are more educated AND more intelligent today than 100 years ago. So, you're wrong. Education level, by definition, is the amount of systematic instruction a person or population has achieved. Humans today have a higher level of education than 100 years ago. And through the Flynn's Effect I pointed out earlier, they are more intelligent. Also, the definition of "Dumb" is "Stupid." The definition of "Stupid" is "having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense." So, you could rewrite what you said as, "I didn't say people were not intelligent I said they were not intelligent," if you used the actual definitions of these words and not what you think they mean.

It's nearly impossible to have this discussion when one party doesn't participate in an established set of rules (like actual definitions of words) and makes up their own. Like playing chess with a pigeon - the pigeon knocks over all the pieces, sh*ts all over the board, and struts around like it won.

At the end of the day- You said baseball is declining in popularity because people today are too dumb to understand it. That's scientifically wrong, factually wrong, and implies you think baseball is a complex game to understand. I believe you if you think baseball is complex.

A couple things and we will end this.
First, by the standard of formal systematic education I would rank and I'm almost as smart as my uneducated farmer of a dad, God rest his soul. I also know and interact with a lot of other people who you would rate as highly educated and my dog could beat them in battle of wits.
Second, if you really believe that people on average are so much smarter today than in the past, then how do you explain the daily idiocy we see everyday? Example: I heard several people say that the eclipse was going to make all technology malfunction. Are you kidding? It's a shadow you moron. Ancients knew what an eclipse was.
Lastly if you believe more time spent in school is equal to more education then I summit you as proof of my original premise.

 

[Weezer]

Does it list the size? Need to know if they would fit. I have large feet.

 

[rikberry31]

'no such thing' nothing is performance based, got it I see nuzzing, I say nuzzing.

Blue Ribbon Schools, TCAPs, AR performance,

Have zero effect on salary raises or school budgets. Speaking of education...

 

[Weezer]

I will buy you an adult beverage of your choice if you do.

I did it for him.

 

[Weezer]

I'm confused why this conversation about intelligence now and 100 years ago is centered around baseball?

One thing I will say about the people of the past, they were far better wordsmiths. Very eloquent in their writing and speech. We don't really have that anymore.

 

[drvenner]

why does anyone gaf if these guys gamble? its legal.

This has to be you trying to trigger somebody.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Have zero effect on salary raises or school budgets. Speaking of education...

 

[drvenner]

Miggy over Ty Cobb in Detroit is a pretty big whiff.

Also, as good as Pujols was for the Cardinals, he spent half his career in LA. Stan Musial and Ozzie Smith are names that come to mind before Pujols.

Stan the Man, for sure. Al Kaline over Miggy also, IMO.

 

[drvenner]

If it's true that he didn't bet against his team/himself in any game he played, I don't have a problem with that.

I do.

 

[Jackcrevol]

This has to be you trying to trigger somebody.

I do not give two flying ****s what the is betting on.

Caveat: Unless it involves Alabama. Then all bets are off!

 

[drvenner]

I do not give two flying ****s what the is betting on.

Maybe the gamblers who have lots of money riding on it do.

 

[SergeantVol]

I'm confused why this conversation about intelligence now and 100 years ago is centered around baseball?

One thing I will say about the people of the past, they were far better wordsmiths. Very eloquent in their writing and speech. We don't really have that anymore.

Wait, I thought you were an old grey hair?!?? Are you not like 60+? Figured you would have been around along time ago…

 

[Jackcrevol]

Maybe the gamblers who have lots of money riding on it do.

maybe.

 

[Orange.]

 

[MemphisVol3]

Sure sounds like someone that's on his way to the portal.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I'm not arguing with you one way or the other. My only point will be that language matters. "Dumb" is literally an antonym to "Intelligent". "Dumber" literally means "less intelligent". Go all in per dissecting how to measure "intelligence", but it literally means "less dumb" and vice versa.

Perhaps the vocabulary you intend is a distinction between ignorance and intellect? You can be intelligent yet unlearned, and you can be a very educated moron. But at the end of the day, "Dumber" means "less intelligent".

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You are a high-cultured, sophisticated genius if you pronounced it "unlearn-ed" when you read that comment.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Can't get past the texture or the look.

TWSS

 

[Orange.]

I don't recall that the official word has been posted here.

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

I'll be in Pigeon Forge' tomorrow. I'll definitely be judged on the chili cheese burritos I get from Taco Bell. . . most people don't get to witness a person with that level of sophistication.

Wait they have chili cheese in the forge? Used to be my go to then they took it off the menu.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

That's why I haven't nicknamed her yet. If she's as bad as Kellie I'll lean toward prettier Kellie. Hope like the dickens I don't have to go down that route. I'm hoping for "Exciting Kimie"

Pretty Heupel