Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Nash_Vol97 said:
The signs are all there mi amigo. 👀

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vol9799 said:
If we could put someone on Edey with a Monterio Hardesty spin move, wait till the big oaf starts his rythmic backing down and let the defender time it so that when he throws his 300lbs back into our defender, there is nothing there, allowing Edey to charge himself into the floor, traveling, and likely knocking himself unconscious. Letting Edey foul himself would illustrate the point about the advantage he is being given with these no calls.
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That's not a terrible idea. Get Awaka on him, forcing him to body and throw his weight around. Then have Awaka time it, pulling the rug out from under him. Down he goes.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
A couple of quick observations from a conversation I had with a coach yesterday-- They think Staley could be the first receiver they've had since Hyatt who can game coverage gaps with speed and route quality. Heupel called him the "most polished" Freshman WR he's seen walk in the door here. Matthews obviously got more early press, but Staley could be special. Word is--Staes has been a great blocker and route runner, who trucks people after the catch. He and Nico seem to have an intuitive trust and they've been hitting big gains in crossing routes and slants from the TE position. On that note-- Inge is being given some latitude to change how our LB's handle pass coverage and playing in space. He was not happy with the way we handle middle and flat coverage in the passing game last year, and how we commit pre-snap on certain reads. They plan to let Pilli cover a little more space in the middle to allow the outside guys to take the short TE routes and RB release. That's my update live from the Whole Foods produce section on Sunday where I ran into an unnamed coach who buys a lot of pomegranates.
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mr.checkerboards said:
2 complaints real quick

1. I didn't want the West because I thought we would get screwed with late start times. Just to be on the East with **** start times.

2. Instead of doing Sat/Mon for the FF, why not do, Fri/Sun with the NC game being a Sunday afternoon maitnee?
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The college football and basketball championships belong on the weekend.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Random notes –

30 for 30 –

Over the last three seasons (21, 22, & 23) if our football team scores less than 30 points in a game our record is 1 – 9, the lone win being A&M in 2023.

If our football team gives up 30 or more points to our opponent our record is 3 – 9, the three wins being at Kentucky in ’21, Florida in ’22, and Alabama in ’22.

When we score 30 or more points in a game our record is 26 – 3, the losses were Pitt and Purdue in ’21, and at SC in ‘22.

When our team has held our opponents to less than 30 points per game our record is 24 – 2, the losses being at Georgia in ’22 and at Florida in ’23.

Billy Napier –

I often listen to other coaches in a sort of intelligence gathering exercise but some are really difficult for me to listen to and perhaps other than Beamer no one moreso than Napier. The Florida fans at Gatorchatter call him Slingblade. It is a very fitting name if you were to ask me. Anyway, I figured out how to listen to him so that it’s less painful. On YouTube you can adjust the playback speed up to twice the normal speed. It works. It actually makes him sound a bit more intelligent and I only have to listen half as long. I’m being serious.

Speaking of Napier, I did a comparison of our offensive 2-deep personnel for this year. The general practice is in competitive games your team is really only made up of around 40 players. I looked at all of our games from last year using individual snap count data from PFF, game-by-game, to see how many players played and for competitive games that held up. We only played 36 against Florida, 15 on offense and 21 on defense. There were 8 games last year where we played 46 or fewer players, including Austin Peay (lol).

Anyway, I took our projected top 20 offensive players for this year and compared them to Napier’s top 20 offensive players. I used the 247 rating to make the comparison so it would be apples to apples. I got their projected depth chart from multiple sources in Gator nation. I think he’s in trouble. Big trouble. There is no comparison. His offensive talent this year doesn’t appear to be SEC quality, at least not according to 247. I haven’t done the defense yet but most of his talent is on that side of the ball. He brought in Austin Armstrong to run his defense last year and they were all excited but in the end his defense regressed further. I noted last year that their defense was talented but young. They ended up doing a lot worse than I thought they would. jmo.

In any event I don’t see Florida’s offense improving this year but their defense maybe has a shot. I know on offense they’re probably going to go with the short passing game, first, because Mertz doesn’t have a history of deep throws (last of all passers in the SEC last year, not just starting QBs, for Average Depth of Throw) and second, because Tim Banks is giving it to him. Mertz completed 85% of his passes in the first half against us last year and only threw 4 passes total in the second half. If Napier can build a lead, which he did, he’s then going to try to run out the clock, which he also did. Napier is the playcaller and I think he may have Bank’s number. Maybe Banks will change it up a bit this year. One can hope. jmo.

Speaking of Tim Banks –

I think the main criticism of our defense both inside and outside the fanbase is our pass defense. Last year against SEC offenses within the conference we ranked 10th in passing yards given up per game, 11th in passing yards per attempt, 10th in opponent’s passer rating, 12th in completion percentage allowed, 13th in passes broken up, 9th in interceptions gained, but we ranked 5th in fewest passing TDs allowed.

Last year in the offseason I noted we had improved in run defense, reducing rushing TDs allowed from 24 in ’21 to 15 in ’22. In ’21 we gave up 23 passing TDs and reduced that to 21 in ’22. Someone on here commented that we needed to reduce those passing TDs to 15 also. Well, in 2023 we further reduced rushing TDs, down to 13, and we did in fact reduce passing TDs allowed down to 15.

It’s hard to argue but whatever Tim Banks is doing it appears to mostly be working in the right direction. Maybe his hands were a bit tied by the talent available to him and he did the best he could with what he had. Maybe the only way to eke out more improvement was to change the talent on the field, hence the mass exodus of the veteran secondary guys.

As an aside, Austin Price recently said in one of their talk-a-thons that if Boo Carter ever gets on the field for the defense this year he’s not coming off. TIFWIW.

I don’t particularly like Tim Banks and I was actually silently rooting for InVol when he was trying to fire the guy. I just don’t much care for his personality and I think that’s going to make it even more difficult for him to land a head coaching gig, which I think is the mission Danny White has for us. Banks is supposed to be our contribution to increasing the ranks of minority head coaches in college football.

When it was reported that he was being interviewed by MTSU (twice is what I heard) I checked out their message board and while it wasn’t quite the same as Shiano Sunday it was definitely at least like the Titans drafting Will Levis. MTSU fans probably follow Vol football more than say fans at Akron or somewhere. Anyway, at the time I thought if I could’ve spared the money I would have called up MTSU and told them I’d pay his salary if they would hire him.

Another bitch I have with Banks is I think recruiting at the Safety position is worse than at linebacker. We got Arion Carter at LB and Boo Carter at DB, both Tennessee kids, and I don’t think we needed Banks to get either one of them. He was reputationally a good recruiter when he came here but I haven’t yet seen anything to suggest that he’s lived up to that billing.

Here’s the thing. No I don’t like him but there’s no way anyone can convince me he hasn’t done a pretty good job on the field based on what he had to work with when he arrived. Maybe with the infusion of youth, speed, and athleticism things change. Maybe the talent continues to increase. I’m sort of a better the devil you know than the one you don’t know. jmo.

Joey Halzle –

In his OC debut Joey Halzle’s offense managed 24.4 points per game in SEC competition, 11th best in the conference, ahead of Arkansas (20.0), Vanderbilt (16.9), and Mississippi State (12.6). All three of those bottom dwellers will have new offensive coordinators this year. Hey Joey, I mean if you’re reading this. lol.

Both us and Vanderbilt played 4 teams that finished the season last year ranked in the AP top 25. We each managed only 18.0 points per game in those contests and for us 35 of those 72 points came in the bowl game against what ended up being the #4 scoring defense in the nation, and lest anyone wants to down play that defense, it should be remembered that they held the eventual national champion to 26 points in that matchup.

After the Florida game last year in the following Tuesday presser (pre UTSA) by Joey, Austin Price asked him basically if Nico could do anything better than Joe. That’s a hell of a question but that’s why Austin gets paid the big bucks. What the hell could Joey say? lol. I mean seriously I figure Joey might have wanted to ask Austin outside after the presser. Imagine Joey says well Nico does really pretty much everything better than Joe. lol.

For what it’s worth I think our offensive scoring recovers strongly this year. In fact I think with the exception of RB we could be better in every position group on the offense. Even in the RB room, with Sampson, Seldon, Keith, and Lewis, we will definitely be much more talented overall, at least on paper. jmo.

Offensive line –

Multiple reporters, including Price, in the early going for spring practice, have said that Umarov is competing to start this year at LG. I figure that’s what they’re hearing from inside the football complex. With Heard at LT, Mays at center (2,007 career snaps), Spraggins at RG (2,542 career snaps), and Campbell at RT (1,890 career snaps), we should see a lot of upside to line performance. jmo.

Wide receivers –

Joey said last week that for the receivers there are no guaranteed starting spots. He said the competition is intense. Last year we had seven scholarship guys in the room. This year we have ten and are a lot more talented. We should be good once we figure out who the top three are. I figure Squirrel is a guarantee but Thornton will be pushed and if Bru isn’t ready to go whoever lines up in his place won’t be someone who is only “serviceable”. jmo.

Both Matthews and Staley in interviews last week said their main focus right now is on development. Braylon said he was working on improving his efficiency coming out of his breaks. He’s generated some early buzz about his catching ability but there’s a technical process to running each route. Footwork is maybe the most critical part of route running. If you do it right you’ll almost always get separation. If you don’t do it right, you’ll almost never create separation. Footwork for receivers is actually fairly technical. It’s not hard but you do have to master it to be considered a good route runner. Footwork can be different for different routes. Footwork comes before eyes. You have to complete your break before turning your eyes toward the QB otherwise your body will be trying to go in different directions and you’ll be out of control. Similar to working on the juggs machine a receiver needs to practice his route running (footwork and eyes) until it becomes second nature. I think we may have an elite WR coach, definitely coveted, and by Kirby Smart no less. Of course Kirby may have been trying to hire him because he’s scared of him at Tennessee. jmo.

Tight ends –

I think that the combination of Staes and Ethan Davis elevates the talent in the group significantly above what we’ve had in Heupel’s first three years here. If the production is commensurate we’re better than good. jmo.

Asking for prayers? –

I think many here know that I’m an older guy and getting older. One of the inescapable conditions of aging is susceptibility to various diseases. I think I may be coming down with Spring Practice Fever because depending on what happens on the defensive side of the ball I’m already entertaining the idea that we could go undefeated this year. I’m actually dead serious. I may need counseling. I would not dismiss any prayers for a speedy and complete recovery. lol.
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Tremendous content.

I too think Banks has overall done a good job. And agree recruiting could be better, and should be now that results are being seen. I also wonder, what the heck is up with the Martinez situation in this equation? No raise, no contract extension, but he’s still here. If he’s not going to be retained, they should fire him and find the person who can improve both our talent and development now, or we’re just delaying our growth. Also, back to banks, no one game should be a fire-able offense, but if there was one it would be the Florida game last year. Same could be said of Halze and 2nd half at Bama. You want to stay true to your identity and strengths, but not at the complete sacrifice of game planning. We played right into floridas strengths. Our tremendous run defense ended up looking like Swiss cheese because we couldn’t get off the field because we gave Florida the short game. I don’t get it. Make them try to beat you throwing the ball beyond 5 yards. They can’t. Hopefully we’re more competent there this year. I think Inge will be a great asset. And I’m optimistic that the secondary’s ceiling is higher than it has been since huepel took over.

I also am not sure what I think of Halze. Did we make the best of a player - JM3 - who had hit his ceiling in a year that the OL couldn’t make him look better than he is, or did we handcuff him to minimize risk and end up reducing his and the offenses potential in order to avoid embarrassing gaffes, thinking that we had enough elsewhere to come out on top? This year better be better, or Joey better be gone. Love our offenses potential.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
They don’t foul much at all, because they aren’t playing much defense. They just hit their shots and watch teams shoot it seems.

Giving up almost 7 more attempts per game to opponents than they take themselves.

We should have a lot more space than Texas gave, game will come down to if we can hit our shots.
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This is the big part, IMO

Also why I'm glad we aren't playing Oregon. I think we'll have way more room to operate vs Creighton, and I think that's the kind of game/opponent that DK shines
 
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SoilVol said:
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Charles is a
HOF basketball player
HOF sports broadcaster
Top 75 NBA player
NBA League MVP

Still people don't like Charles because he says how he feels and doesn't care whose feelings he hurts.

I like Charles because he sent message to Skip Bayless years ago to meet him anywhere, anytime and he would beat his ass 🤣🤣
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Charles is a
HOF basketball player
HOF sports broadcaster
Top 75 NBA player
NBA League MVP

Still people don't like Charles because he says how he feels and doesn't care whose feelings he hurts.

I like Charles because he sent message to Skip Bayless years ago to meet him anywhere, anytime and he would beat his ass 🤣🤣
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He should talk less. He doesn’t bring a whole lot of intelligence or critical thinking to the announcing game. It’s better when Shaq shares the screen with him for their interactions.

I agree with everything else. Great player. Entertaining Announcer. Skip can kick rocks.
 
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