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White House Condemns Russia Issuing Arrest Warrant For Washington Examiner Columnist​


The White House condemned the sanctions issued against American journalists, including the March 7 arrest warrant for Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan.

Russia has also placed Washington Examiner Editor-in-Chief Hugo Gurdon on a state list of extremists and terrorists just before the second anniversary of the war in Ukraine.

The warrant for Rogan was issued in response to a 2018 column he authored titled “Ukraine should blow up Putin’s Crimea bridge,” according to Russian state media. The Kremlin reportedly opened an investigation into Rogan and Gurdon the following day.

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The White House condemned the sanctions issued against American journalists, including the warrant issued against Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan.
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LouderVol said:
it totally does effect our readiness. we can't replace what we had. If defending one nation against Russia drains us of 10 billion dollars, that they admit so you know its actually more than that, what do you think it will do when we get directly involved with anyone? We aren't starting from a full tank.

I agree China is the main geopolitical threat, which means giving stuff to fight the Russians gives us no return value when it comes to China. those weapons would be just as effective against China as it is against Russia so don't knock it because its old. And our allies in the Pacific are going to be even less prepared than Ukraine was. they are going to need arms to fight the Chinese too. this is the price of making ourselves the world's police, very few nations are going to have the capability of defending themselves.

if nothing else supplying Ukraine is working our logistics. we only have so many heavy lifters capable of moving military equipment around. who knows what percentage is tied up in Europe right now. not just supplying Ukraine, but also our own troops and any of the NATO forces. those will be even more critical in the Pacific having to island hop.

if one ground war we aren't directly involved in against not our biggest can drain at least 10 billion of assets, what do you think a war we are actually involved in against our biggest foe is going to do?
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It doesn't effect our readiness.

The equipment sent is mostly leftovers for a war decades ago which (thankfully) never came. Would the Pentagon and the various factions of the MIC love to make that case to get more taxpayer funded contracts? Absolutely.

If anything, the invasion has increased our allies appetite for our newer technology platforms above what we can realistically provide. It also illuminated our military supply chain weaknesses; both internationally (think chips from Taiwan) and domestic industrial might (think artillery shell, ammunition, bombs, missiles, tanks, airframes). While the Pentagon certainly didn't count on/plan for a prolonged, intense conflict of attrition with dumb artillery which has resulted in an unexpected demand for old systems and old artillery, such is not a reflection of readiness as much as a candid admission that we are not built for that kind of fight. Russia is.

If we were to get into a conflict with Russia, we would be using entirely different platforms, technologies, and strategies than what Ukraine is forced to use now. Russia is not remotely built for the fight we are built for; a combined arms campaign lead by devastating air and sea power. Their only hope was that their heavy investment in air defense platforms and technology could counteract our air superiority platforms. Based on the War in Ukraine thus far, that was a false hope. Add in their nonexistent logistical capabilities past the railway system, we are talking an apples to oranges mismatch of military assets/technology and future military needs.

In short, Ukraine is fighting a war that was supposed to be fought decades ago. Sending mostly our mothballed platforms designed for that war in no way leaves us vulnerable to our future military needs.
 
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The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact.

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PKT_VOL said:
It doesn't effect our readiness.

The equipment sent is mostly leftovers for a war decades ago which (thankfully) never came. Would the Pentagon and the various factions of the MIC love to make that case to get more taxpayer funded contracts? Absolutely.

If anything, the invasion has increased our allies appetite for our newer technology platforms above what we can realistically provide. It also illuminated our military supply chain weaknesses; both internationally (think chips from Taiwan) and domestic industrial might (think artillery shell, ammunition, bombs, missiles, tanks, airframes). While the Pentagon certainly didn't count on/plan for a prolonged, intense conflict of attrition with dumb artillery which has resulted in an unexpected demand for old systems and old artillery, such is not a reflection of readiness as much as a candid admission that we are not built for that kind of fight. Russia is.

If we were to get into a conflict with Russia, we would be using entirely different platforms, technologies, and strategies than what Ukraine is forced to use now. Russia is not remotely built for the fight we are built for; a combined arms campaign lead by devastating air and sea power. Their only hope was that their heavy investment in air defense platforms and technology could counteract our air superiority platforms. Based on the War in Ukraine thus far, that was a false hope. Add in their nonexistent logistical capabilities past the railway system, we are talking an apples to oranges mismatch of military assets/technology and future military needs.

In short, Ukraine is fighting a war that was supposed to be fought decades ago. Sending mostly our mothballed platforms designed for that war in no way leaves us vulnerable to our future military needs.
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Great post.
 
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So just that @volgr and @Rasputin_Vol understand the why...

Ukraine will win because they *have* to. Think about it. If XYZ country invade us, what would you do? Fight tooth and nail to save your family? Yep.

So this is why Ukraine will win this war. Because some ******* neighbor invaded them.

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MontyPython said:
So just that @volgr and @Rasputin_Vol understand the why...

Ukraine will win because they *have* to. Think about it. If XYZ country invade us, what would you do? Fight tooth and nail to save your family? Yep.

So this is why Ukraine will win this war. Because some ******* ****tard neighbor invaded them.

/fin
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While I agree with your premise in regards to Ukraine.
I seriously doubt those you mentioned would fight tooth and nail for anyone or anything
 
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MontyPython said:
So just that @volgr and @Rasputin_Vol understand the why...

Ukraine will win because they *have* to. Think about it. If XYZ country invade us, what would you do? Fight tooth and nail to save your family? Yep.

So this is why Ukraine will win this war. Because some ******* ****tard neighbor invaded them.

/fin
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Depends on your definition of ‘win’
 
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MontyPython said:
So just that @volgr and @Rasputin_Vol understand the why...

Ukraine will win because they *have* to. Think about it. If XYZ country invade us, what would you do? Fight tooth and nail to save your family? Yep.

So this is why Ukraine will win this war. Because some ******* ****tard neighbor invaded them.

/fin
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Plenty of people have made it known that should their country be invaded, they'd surrender at the first chance, and give up whatever was necessary to the invader, to establish "peace".

@volgr and @Rasputin_Vol are amongst that group.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Plenty of people have made it known that should their country be invaded, they'd surrender at the first chance, and give up whatever was necessary to the invader, to establish "peace".

@volgr and @Rasputin_Vol are amongst that group.
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Fortunately for those two nobody wants to invade that shithole trailer park heavy Russia so they won’t have to worry about begging for peace anytime soon.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Plenty of people have made it known that should their country be invaded, they'd surrender at the first chance, and give up whatever was necessary to the invader, to establish "peace".

@volgr and @Rasputin_Vol are amongst that group.
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Well just take them to the edge of a mine field and point to the other side and say your buddies are over there- bye
 
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MontyPython said:
Really? Hmm. Seems here we are 2+ years out and Ukraine still standing.
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Yes, which part of I agree with you on the Ukraine did you not grasp?

I don’t think there are as many Americans that would stand and fight as you seem to think. I think life has been too easy and the younger generation is soft.
 
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What resources do you guys use as news concerning the war? Is there a new source out there that gives an objective update of the war, who's winning, how the war is going?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Plenty of people have made it known that should their country be invaded, they'd surrender at the first chance, and give up whatever was necessary to the invader, to establish "peace".

@volgr and @Rasputin_Vol are amongst that group.
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I bet the American West Coast would cheer those Chinese tanks rolling through the streets. I wonder if Newsome would clean all the homeless to allow the tanks to roll through a clean City?
 
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