2024 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
They had a good article on why the debating tactic known as "what-about-ism" is a logical fallacy, because even if the counter-allegation is true, it doesn't serve as a defense against the initial claim.
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True. It's why I haven't pointed out the numerous racial issues within the Dem party that you are ignoring. And yes, white supremacist groups do favor trump. And his debate moments on this have to be the worst debate moments in the history of POTUS debates. I would argue they alone make him unelectable.
 
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#14,655
BowlBrother85 said:
They had a good article on why the debating tactic known as "what-about-ism" is a logical fallacy, because even if the counter-allegation is true, it doesn't serve as a defense against the initial claim.
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Lol. You have long been a king of whatabouts in this forum. Even authored lengthy posts owning up to it.
 
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I'm less concerned about the toxic political dialogue in this country than I am about people who believe "logical" = accurate, correct, true (no matter which side of the debate they're on).
 
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volfanhill said:
True. It's why I haven't pointed out the numerous racial issues within the Dem party that you are ignoring. And yes, white supremacist groups do favor trump. And his debate moments on this have to be the worst debate moments in the history of POTUS debates. I would argue they alone make him unelectable.
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The Democratic Party does indeed have racial issues of their own ... This is America after all, the melting pot, with ingredients that won't melt. LOL.

Donald Trump has been very reluctant to condemn white supremacists because he knows they overwhelmingly vote for him .... and a vote from a white supremacist counts just as much at the ballot box as a vote from an oncologist at St. Jude's.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They had a good article on why the debating tactic known as "what-about-ism" is a logical fallacy, because even if the counter-allegation is true, it doesn't serve as a defense against the initial claim.
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Well the Initial claim is silly. And BLM is a racist organization. If these publications were
even remotely concerned about racism then they would have stories on racist organizations which they do not. Joe Biden and the Democratic party are racist. They always have been.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Well the Initial claim is silly. And BLM is a racist organization. If these publications were
even remotely concerned about racism then they would have stories on racist organizations which they do not. Joe Biden and the Democratic party are racist. They always have been.
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The initial claims were that :

1) White supremacists are Republicans, if they have a political party affiliation.

2) White supremacists overwhelmingly support Donald Trump.

3) White supremacist group memberships grew exponentially during Donald Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

^^^^ Those 3 claims are 100% accurate, and easily supported with links to sources of verifiable information. ^^^^

It is ignorant to suggest otherwise.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The initial claims were that :

1) White supremacists are Republicans, if they have a political party affiliation.

2) White supremacists overwhelmingly support Donald Trump.

3) White supremacist group memberships grew exponentially during Donald Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

^^^^ Those 3 claims are 100% accurate, and easily supported with links to sources of verifiable information. ^^^^

It is ignorant to suggest otherwise.
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That show, “The Amazing Race”. Is that about white people?

NM. I’ll google it.
 
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#14,664
BowlBrother85 said:
The Democratic Party does indeed have racial issues of their own ... This is America after all, the melting pot, with ingredients that won't melt. LOL.

Donald Trump has been very reluctant to condemn white supremacists because he knows they overwhelmingly vote for him .... and a vote from a white supremacist counts just as much at the ballot box as a vote from an oncologist at St. Jude's.
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He lost more votes then gained IMO bc of those debates
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The initial claims were that :

1) White supremacists are Republicans, if they have a political party affiliation.

2) White supremacists overwhelmingly support Donald Trump.

3) White supremacist group memberships grew exponentially during Donald Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

^^^^ Those 3 claims are 100% accurate, and easily supported with links to sources of verifiable information. ^^^^

It is ignorant to suggest otherwise.
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Substitute BLM for white supremacist, Democrat for Republican and Biden for Trump. I don’t know where this white supremacy nonsense comes from. Just made up nonsense and propaganda. I am sorry if you believe it, but that is your right.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Substitute BLM for white supremacist, Democrat for Republican and Biden for Trump. I don’t know where this white supremacy nonsense comes from. Just made up nonsense and propaganda. I am sorry if you believe it, but that is your right.
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So for clarification, you don't believe the white supremacist support Trump in large numbers? Or that Trump is incapable of denouncing them? I agree with you on the BLM stuff. But you must have your head up your ass to not acknowledge that white surpemacists support of trump. It's not hidden . And he sucks at denouncing them. Same as Dems sucks at denouncing BLM and anti cop movement
 
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LibertyVol said:
I don’t know where this white supremacy nonsense comes from. Just made up nonsense and propaganda
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Take another look at post #14,641 again .... but this time, click on the links and read them. You have your head buried so far in the sand, you should be halfway to China.

LibertyVol said:
Substitute BLM for white supremacist, Democrat for Republican and Biden for Trump.
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Once again .... this is a logical fallacy of what-about-ism. Yes, the Democratic Party has racist groups of their own, whose ideology is based in hate and intolerance. I have no problem acknowledging that fact.

However, that doesn't change the fact that white supremacists are Republicans, if they have a political party affiliation. It also doesn't change the fact that white supremacist groups overwhelmingly support Donald Trump. It's also true that memberships in white supremacist organizations increased exponentially while Donald Trump was in office. These are established facts, easily supported by links to sources of verifiable information.
 
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volfanhill said:
So for clarification, you don't believe the white supremacist support Trump in large numbers? Or that Trump is incapable of denouncing them? I agree with you on the BLM stuff. But you must have your head up your ass to not acknowledge that white surpemacists support of trump. It's not hidden . And he sucks at denouncing them. Same as Dems sucks at denouncing BLM and anti cop movement
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He has denounced that silliness a bunch of times. Trump is not racist.
 
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LibertyVol said:
He has denounced that silliness a bunch of times. Trump is not racist.
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Wait a minute ..... you just said this :

LibertyVol said:
I don’t know where this white supremacy nonsense comes from. Just made up nonsense and propaganda.
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^^^^ Your most recent post is incongruous with this post. ^^^^

You are now saying that Trump has denounced something, which a few minutes ago, you said did not exist. You seem a little slow.
 
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