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McDad said:
Apparently DC Senator and Rep have taken up discussing NIL. Convo in the FF.

Betcha it lands in the PF.

Yall ready to talk NIL and DC politics???
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Still think the whole argument for NIL is nuts, but I completely agree with the TN VA lawsuit taking on the NCAA. The NCAA sat on its hands with respect to NIL, and now they want to do ex post facto law. On the other hand not allowing payment for athletes doesn't in any way cause "irreparable harm" - that's BS. We're talking amateur athletics; by definition that's not pay for play. Besides all that goes with an athletic scholarship when you consider the cost of a college education is considerable - including the "cost of attendance" that is certainly more than pocket change.

Also if the Sherman Antitrust nonsense plays out the way collectives and others want, just wait until the argument is used against professional licensing boards and other obstacles (like education or physical qualifications) toward employment.

The whole NIL nonsense got started because EA was profiting from using player's names and likenesses in games, and the argument was that the player should be compensated - no problem whatsoever with that, but that isn't at all what the current NIL BS is all about. The other driver appears to be how much money universities are raking in from football ... mostly an income not profit argument. The thing is that so much of the income is based on TV revenue which is advertising based and generally does not reflect what value can be attached to any university team ... think conference revenue sharing and what Vandy would bring to the table vs any number of other SEC teams.
 
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NIL and the transfer portal will self correct, eventually people will get tired of donating to the collectives just to have players jumping ship every year looking for a better deal. There is absolutely no need for government to get involved.
 
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AM64 said:
Still think the whole argument for NIL is nuts, but I completely agree with the TN VA lawsuit taking on the NCAA. The NCAA sat on its hands with respect to NIL, and now they want to do ex post facto law. On the other hand not allowing payment for athletes doesn't in any way cause "irreparable harm" - that's BS. We're talking amateur athletics; by definition that's not pay for play. Besides all that goes with an athletic scholarship when you consider the cost of a college education is considerable - including the "cost of attendance" that is certainly more than pocket change.

Also if the Sherman Antitrust nonsense plays out the way collectives and others want, just wait until the argument is used against professional licensing boards and other obstacles (like education or physical qualifications) toward employment.

The whole NIL nonsense got started because EA was profiting from using player's names and likenesses in games, and the argument was that the player should be compensated - no problem whatsoever with that, but that isn't at all what the current NIL BS is all about. The other driver appears to be how much money universities are raking in from football ... mostly an income not profit argument. The thing is that so much of the income is based on TV revenue which is advertising based and generally does not reflect what value can be attached to any university team ... think conference revenue sharing and what Vandy would bring to the table vs any number of other SEC teams.
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its not pay for play. these players couldn't profit from their names, their images, or their likeness. no institution limits you like that, not even the NFL's salary cap covers NIL. has nothing to do with the schools paying for them. The current NIL structure isn't the salient point. these players couldn't sign autographs of their own picture, jersey, whatever for money. that's wrong. no amateur organization requires that its participants can't make any money outside of that organization, and they certainly don't try to limit the person from their own name image and likeness. that would all be illegal. the NCAA is no different.

amateurism is an undefined non-starter, regardless of scholarships, colleges, or anything else.
 
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What is it with UT fans at TBA? They look like they're sitting in their seats, quietly watching a church service.
 
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