2024 Presidential Race

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volbound1700 said:
No you said greatest President ever and you also cited debt prior to final year (2020 Stimulus). Both were wrong.
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I said no such damn thing.

volbound1700 said:
Obama saw over $ 10 Trillion Increase
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I never said a damn word about Obama, but he was President for 2 terms, while Trump did his damage in just 1.

volbound1700 said:
Trump only spent $ 2 Trillion in debt (again NOT good) prior to Biden.
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That is not true. Trump added $7.8 trillion to the debt in his 4 years in office. His first two years in office, Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate.

Is there something wrong with you? You seem a bit off?
 
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#10,902
McDad said:
That's why I specified 4 year term.

This and taxes are essentially the only issues I care about. Trump et al set a 4 yr record I hope will never be broken but I know full well it will eventually.
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Where’s Biden number at?
 
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#10,904
hog88 said:
Clinton/Gingrich added debt to.
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Correct. It was more measured under Clinton than most Presidents, however.

Now the size of the increases don't take into account inflation. Back in the other periods, the USD was worth more so you won't see as much of an impact.

2020 Stimulus killed us.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I said no such damn thing.


I never said a damn word about Obama, but he was President for 2 terms, while Trump did his damage in just 1.


That is not true. Trump added $7.8 trillion to the debt in his 4 years in office. His first two years in office, Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate.

Is there something wrong with you? You seem a bit off?
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Go look at the chart. Over 5 Trillion was in his last year (2020 Stimulus). That isn't his first 3 years.
 
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#10,908
hog88 said:
Deficit not debt if I’m not mistaken.
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I'd have to check the tables again, but I'm confident it was both. Clinton benefited from a surplus, too.
Honestly if it wasn't for the economic boom and Gingrich trying to stick with his contract with America, I have little faith we would have seen that temporary reprieve.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Go look at the chart. Over 5 Trillion was in his last year (2020 Stimulus). That isn't his first 3 years.
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I have only said that Trump added $7.8 trillion to the damn debt! AND THAT IS TRUE! I have also said that Republicans had control of both chambers of Congress during his first two years in office ... and that is also true.

Jesus Christ .... I will never complain about that whodey guy again.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have only said that Trump added $7.8 trillion to the damn debt! AND THAT IS TRUE! I have also said that Republicans had control of both chambers of Congress during his first two years in office ... and that is also true.

Jesus Christ .... I will never complain about that whodey guy again.
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Agree that they didn't get much done and frankly won't get much done when they win. We need a REAL leader but we don't have any.
 
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hog88 said:
So he’s got time to take the title.
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To be fair to Biden, inflation impacts his as well. You really need to look at percentage increase based on currency at the time (hard metric to track). For example a USD under Bush Jr or Obama was worth far more than it is under Biden so it looks worse.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Not as long as it is his choice to withdraw. You can always quit.
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He will not just quit..he said he is all in and said he was mentally and physically fine. Anybody that believes he would just quit is just fooling themselves and will have to admit he either lied or is being pushed out.
 
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