Recruiting Football Talk VII

[LA Vol]

He found a way to feign unity with the NCAA while making the argument that the SEC/BIG need to step in and lead, and calling the dogs off of the current NIL allegation saber rattling.

Political animal at his most politic. He is not going to sing UT's praises. His initial silence (non-condemnation) then this self-serving directive to focus on solutions and forget enforcement is Sankey being Sankey. He would have preferred no lawsuits. Tennessee preferred the same. But the organization precipitating lawsuits is the one not focused on solutions. And Sankey is acknowledging that.

 

[vol9799]

Sankey is a self-serving powermonger. The guy who wrote this can't control his LSU bias, isn't interested in providing a balanced perspective and clearly doesn't like Tennessee. But what Sankey is saying, in his self-serving way, is that the NCAA focusing on enforcing past violations diverts focus from moving forward, which is the path everyone should be on. Sankey may not be all that fond of UT, but he is very fond of the value (i.e., $$$$) a strong UT can provide. When our interests align with his, he's an ally. A cheerleader, he is not.

This! Sankey's agenda is remaining in power. He's going to be against anything that jeopardizes his long-term influence. No doubt he'd like the NCAA to back off and bring in his new "committee" to help solve this. That way he gets to keep all sides reasonably happy and keep himself in power. The last thing he wants is the lawsuits to take on a life of their own and bring about a solution he's not spearheading.

 

[jpope9]

So, maybe Sankey isn't in our corner on this pending investigation?

SEC-Big Ten Union More Than Advisory, And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

SEC-Big Ten Leaders Want To Change NCAA, Not Just 'Advise,' And Greg Sankey Criticizes Tennessee Lawsuit

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Written by Glenn Guilbeau
Guilbeau joined OutKick as an SEC columnist in September of 2021 after covering LSU and the Saints for 17 years at USA TODAY Louisiana. He has been a national columnist/feature writer since the summer of 2022, covering college football, basketball and baseball with some NFL, NBA, MLB, TV and Movies and general assignment, including hot dog taste tests. A New Orleans native and Mizzou graduate, he has consistently won Associated Press Sports Editors (APSE) and Football Writers Association of America (FWAA) awards since covering Alabama and Auburn at the Mobile Press-Register (1993-98) and LSU and the Saints at the Baton Rouge Advocate (1998-2004). In 2021, Guilbeau won an FWAA 1st for a game feature, placed in APSE Beat Writing, Breaking News and Explanatory, and won Beat Writer of the Year from the Louisiana Sports Writers Association (LSWA). He won an FWAA columnist 1st in 2017 and was FWAA's top overall winner in 2016 with 1st in game story, 2nd in columns, and features honorable mention. Guilbeau completed a book in 2022 about LSU's five-time national champion coach - "Everything Matters In Baseball: The Skip Bertman Story" - that is available at www.acadianhouse.com, Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble outlets. He lives in Baton Rouge with his wife, the former Michelle Millhollon of Thibodaux who previously covered politics for the Baton Rouge Advocate and is a communications director.



eh, someone is pissed we beat the hell out of the kitties last night.

 

[drvenner]

Lady Vols today at 1 p.m. on ESPN+ .

Then Lady Vols Basketball at 7 p.m. vs Alabama on SEC Network+

Do you know if utsports.com is streaming it?

 

[drvenner]

He could probably still use a good arse whoopin, just for poops and giggles.

I don't know about you, but pooping is a very serious matter in my house.

 

[LA Vol]

He's been non-committal. That's enough for me. He should be out in front defending TN. He's not.

Just Sankey being Sankey. You're right that he should stand up for member institutions-- and UT is a founding member of the conference-- but he is who he is. I don't know anybody who thinks he's a great guy.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Political animal at his most politic. He is not going to sing UT's praises. His initial silence (non-condemnation) then this self-serving directive to focus on solutions and forget enforcement is Sankey being Sankey. He would have preferred no lawsuits. Tennessee preferred the same. But the organization precipitating lawsuits is the one not focused on solutions. And Sankey is acknowledging that.

He did. What I found perhaps most eye opening was his quote that the NCAA needs to "make adjustments around the outcomes of court cases".

This is a white hot branding of the NCAA. They keep losing in court on the same grounds, with the same tired arguments, while being told they'll lose again without new arguments. And then, not only do the NCAA refuse to change, they make their frying pan harder by tripling down on NIL power-move allegations.

I think it's also a hint at what direction the SEC/BIG will want to move toward. Perhaps athlete pay with collective bargaining. Sounds like they know that the amateurism argument is beaten and there has to be a new framework going forward of there is to be anything at all.

 

[jpope9]

Imagine if he was co-head coach with Shiano!

would be the best team since the 1939 vols!

 

[utkevdawg1]

Grant Williams is going to be a Hornet?!?

Hate that for the guy! But now maybe I'll go to a game!

 

[knoxvol52]

Do you know if utsports.com is streaming it?

Told audio only..

 

[knoxvol52]

Lady Vols up 1-0 bottom 1st..

 

[Orange.]

Written by Glenn Guilbeau
Guilbeau joined OutKick as an SEC columnist in September of 2021 after covering LSU and the Saints for 17 years at USA TODAY Louisiana. He has been a national columnist/feature writer since the summer of 2022, covering college football, basketball and baseball with some NFL, NBA, MLB, TV and Movies and general assignment, including hot dog taste tests. A New Orleans native and Mizzou graduate, he has consistently won Associated Press Sports Editors (APSE) and Football Writers Association of America (FWAA) awards since covering Alabama and Auburn at the Mobile Press-Register (1993-98) and LSU and the Saints at the Baton Rouge Advocate (1998-2004). In 2021, Guilbeau won an FWAA 1st for a game feature, placed in APSE Beat Writing, Breaking News and Explanatory, and won Beat Writer of the Year from the Louisiana Sports Writers Association (LSWA). He won an FWAA columnist 1st in 2017 and was FWAA's top overall winner in 2016 with 1st in game story, 2nd in columns, and features honorable mention. Guilbeau completed a book in 2022 about LSU's five-time national champion coach - "Everything Matters In Baseball: The Skip Bertman Story" - that is available at www.acadianhouse.com, Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble outlets. He lives in Baton Rouge with his wife, the former Michelle Millhollon of Thibodaux who previously covered politics for the Baton Rouge Advocate and is a communications director.



eh, someone is pissed we beat the hell out of the kitties last night.

Glenn Guilbeau is an expert in "hot dog taste tests." Take that as you will.

 

[volbeast33]

Grant Williams is going to be a Hornet?!?

Hate that for the guy! But now maybe I'll go to a game!

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i’m pretty close to charlotte…. might have to check out a game again

 

[VolGee4]

I feel you can read into Sankey’s comments both ways, interpreting them, as this author with an obvious agenda did, as him being totally against TN’s lawsuit; or interpreting them as him saying these lawsuits only add to the problems the NCAA has.

I tend to agree. Sankey was walking a middle line, and I didn't take his statements as strongly anti-UT. I think the writer pointed us in that direction, so I think it's his bias.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Just Sankey being Sankey. You're right that he should stand up for member institutions-- and UT is a founding member of the conference-- but he is who he is. I don't know anybody who thinks he's a great guy.

I'm sure he's on Saban's Christmas list.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Did you read it?

He did as much as is appropriate in his position, and more than one may have otherwise expected. His latter quotes were literally a public attack from within. Knowing the SEC/BIC alliance that was recently announced, those quotes border on tectonic.



The NCAA's bureaucracy is untenable.



SEC/BIG think we can do it better.





Is this intended to put the AGs in a poor light, or the NCAA? It's the NCAA's stiff necks that keep inviting these suits. It's the NCAA's refusal to change that make them vulnerable to federal law, and keep giving states reasons to make anti-NCAA laws.



To the NCAA: Your leadership/oversight has been questionable. You'd better pay attention to these lawsuits, as they're likely to succeed. We need to be prepared for that beforehand. Lay off of the investigations and NIL threats. They're hurting us.

I'm not sure we should expect the SEC commissioner to be so boldly critical of the NCAA, its leadership, its processes, and its policies.

I read it. And I stand by what I said. His response should have been, "TN has every right to be upset. They're doing/have done nothing more than any major, P5 program. It's obvious they're picking and choosing which schools that they want to apply the rules to. TN just got through self investigating and turned over all that info. They didn't have to do that. Now the NCAA is rewarding their honesty by coming after them for rules that aren't even rules. They very well could have met with institutions and tried to come up with reasonable guidelines for everyone to adhere to as Chancellor Plowman tried to do, but instead they choose the confrontaional attack. I don't think this ends well for the NCAA, that's why we're meeting to determine where we go from here."

 

[InVOLuntary]

The machine's authority is being challenged - legally - in front of the public who have questioned the intentions of the AA and the respective conference leadership for many years. They are all complicit in the scheme and know it. It is getting a bit uncomfortable for them.

Oh well.

TN tried to do it their way and it didn't work. Now they can face the wrath.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I see the conspiracy has begun its move from Saban and Bama to Kirby to and UGA bc they’re the top program now.

Good stuff.

Keep on believing, brother. They count on your gullibility.

 

[Smokey X]

I read it. And I stand by what I said. His response should have been, "TN has every right to be upset. They're doing/have done nothing more than any major, P5 program. It's obvious they're picking and choosing which schools that they want to apply the rules to. TN just got through self investigating and turned over all that info. They didn't have to do that. Now the NCAA is rewarding their honesty by coming after them for rules that aren't even rules. They very well could have met with institutions and tried to co.e up with reasonable guidelines for everyone to adhere to as Chancellor Plowman tried to do, but instead they choose the confrontaional attack. I don't think this ends well for the NCAA, that's why we're meeting to determine where we go from here."

yep.....the sugarcoating, the popular politically correct way of saying things.....they all need to share a seat with the NCAA and proceed over a cliff

 

[knoxvol52]

Sophia Nugent with a 3 run bomb for Lady Vols.

Lady Vols 6-0 bottom 2nd..

 

[BarrythesnoUT]

Written by Glenn Guilbeau
Guilbeau joined OutKick as an SEC columnist in September of 2021 after covering LSU and the Saints for 17 years at USA TODAY Louisiana. He has been a national columnist/feature writer since the summer of 2022, covering college football, basketball and baseball with some NFL, NBA, MLB, TV and Movies and general assignment, including hot dog taste tests. A New Orleans native and Mizzou graduate, he has consistently won Associated Press Sports Editors (APSE) and Football Writers Association of America (FWAA) awards since covering Alabama and Auburn at the Mobile Press-Register (1993-98) and LSU and the Saints at the Baton Rouge Advocate (1998-2004). In 2021, Guilbeau won an FWAA 1st for a game feature, placed in APSE Beat Writing, Breaking News and Explanatory, and won Beat Writer of the Year from the Louisiana Sports Writers Association (LSWA). He won an FWAA columnist 1st in 2017 and was FWAA's top overall winner in 2016 with 1st in game story, 2nd in columns, and features honorable mention. Guilbeau completed a book in 2022 about LSU's five-time national champion coach - "Everything Matters In Baseball: The Skip Bertman Story" - that is available at www.acadianhouse.com, Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble outlets. He lives in Baton Rouge with his wife, the former Michelle Millhollon of Thibodaux who previously covered politics for the Baton Rouge Advocate and is a communications director.



eh, someone is pissed we beat the hell out of the kitties last night.

He's also a graduate of Missouri, which is double gross.

 

[engineerVOL]

Women’s softball is far more entertaining than women’s basketball. Because it’s catered to women. Smaller field, different gear, just a different game, it’s like arena baseball, which is cool.

Women’s basketball should not be played on a men’s court. It should be smaller, the rim should be lower, and the 3-point line closer. Women are not as physically gifted as males, so the game looks slow and boring on the same court that the men play on… to most everyone. I know, not everyone.

Don’t know why I felt compelled to say that, but there you are. Pat Summit’s spirit will probably haunt me now.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Women’s softball is far more entertaining than women’s basketball. Because it’s catered to women. Smaller field, different gear, just a different game, it’s like arena baseball, which is cool.

Women’s basketball should not be played on a men’s court. It should be smaller, the goal should be shorter, and the 3-point line closer. Women are not as physically gifted as males, so the game looks slow and boring on the same court that the men play on… to most everyone. I know, not everyone.

Don’t know why I felt compelled to say that, but there you are. Pat Summit’s spirit will probably haunt me now.

I didn't read the whole post, but I agree with the first sentence whole heartedly.
WBB is awful, softball is cool tho.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Women’s softball is far more entertaining than women’s basketball. Because it’s catered to women. Smaller field, different gear, just a different game, it’s like arena baseball, which is cool.

Women’s basketball should not be played on a men’s court. It should be smaller, the rim should be lower, and the 3-point line closer. Women are not as physically gifted as males, so the game looks slow and boring on the same court that the men play on… to most everyone. I know, not everyone.

Don’t know why I felt compelled to say that, but there you are. Pat Summit’s spirit will probably haunt me now.

Plus the way they pitch is different and interesting to watch. . . it's not something anyone could just go do.

I agree about wbb. . . they did adjust the balls to be smaller and easier for them to work with. It allowed a lot of women to be extremely good ball handlers, who otherwise would've been intimidated by the big balls. They should've adjusted everything else to go along with it.

 

[knoxvol52]

Lady Vols 9-0 bottom 3rd.

Rylie West with a 2 run Jack..