Recruiting Football Talk VII

[DD4ME]

He doesn’t bat 1.000 but also doesn’t get credit. AP is treated the same sometimes.

He and Jimmy catch more flack than deserved. If you want a cheerleader watch the talkin vawls.

 

[drvenner]

that’s freshman weight doesn’t mean S**t and that’s average for his height.You’ll see..that’s one thing about the big 10 you don’t mess with is their DL and LB’s Iowa and Wisconsin especially they’re bruisers.. big 10 thrives on being run stoppers..that’s why they’re so boring to watch.

Keep dying on that hill. While you're at it, take another lap

 

[drvenner]

If Nico is starting this game....I hope with every fiber of my being that he plays great...or this place will be miserable Idiot Margin hell.

Just playing well ain't gonna cut it...you guys are expecting 350 and 5...or more.

Definitely expecting my tree fiddy.

 

[DD4ME]

Is Iowas defense good or do they just try and play ball control to keep the score low by running clock and also play poor offensive teams? The best Big10 team is 35 offensively and many of them are in the 100s.

Scheme is extremely sound. Liken them to us with offense. They play their brand of ball well. They do not have the athletes we do, but their scheme can cover some of that. The Achilles imo is can they score at all.

 

[Jackcrevol]

It’s unlikely that we would have seen much Nico in the bowl if Joe didn’t opt out. Coaches were just more comfortable keeping the vets on the field.

you dont think Joe didnt consult with this coaching staff prior to making his decision? Clearly a 6th yr senior gives you a better shot at win here and now.

But with a class inked, no championship at stake, his decision is absolutely best for him and his team's future. Nico is still a TF. He didnt get much if any garbage time.

The coaching staff was very loyal to Joe. And Joe to them. Which goes back to my very first point. Do you not think Joe soight counsel from this coaching staff?

If Joe stayed, he'd play. The whole game, period. But he didnt.

 

[DD4ME]

As bad as the FF is...Facebook comment sections take the cake

On a post about Jaylen and Jabari opting out, all you see are people wanting to take their VFL cards

People are so dumb about understanding players choices. These are career decisions not mood rings.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Not to disparage the Iowa defense, as they are a very good defense, but this was their schedule this year. Not a whole lot of offensive juggernauts on that schedule...
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[drvenner]

Everybody just assuming Khalifa Keith won't play? Dude is 6'1" and 230

Great. Another scat back.

 

[knoxvol52]

If Nico is starting this game....I hope with every fiber of my being that he plays great...or this place will be miserable Idiot Margin hell.

Just playing well ain't gonna cut it...you guys are expecting 350 and 5...or more.

My apologies sir , I thought you were just ranting about this situation...

Maybe you're rite...just observing..

 

['Boro-vol]

Kirby Smart, Kalen deBoer, Dan Lanning, Ryan Day, Dabo Swinney, Jim Harbaugh, Lincoln Riley. Those are the "name" coaches out there, right now.

There are a few understated options, too. Matt Rhule may eventually work himself into that conversation if he can produce at Nebraska after what he already did at Temple and Baylor. Lance Leipold at Kansas and Chris Klieman at Kansas State are both lifers who have worked themselves up thru the ranks and been successful everywhere they've been. None of those are "moon" guys, though. Not yet.

I didn't say Lane would be a bad choice. In fact, I think he'd likely be the best mix of both good coach, recognizable name, and realistic choice.

I see nobody on that list, besides Kirby and maybe Ryan Day (neither of which would leave their current situation for Bama IMO) that ticks anymore boxes than Lane does. All very good coaches, but none are in a more elite group than Lane in today’s market.

You could be right…but other than 2 or 3 “big” names on that list I see a Bama fan uprising if they hired some of those guys.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I do hope our fans set realistic expectations for Nico in this game. Feels unlikely though. It’s his first start and it’s against a true Top 5 defense. It’s going to be tough sledding due to opt outs and injuries as well. If he doesn’t throw for 250+ I hope our fans don’t immediately turn on him as a bust.

 

[knoxvol52]

you dont think Joe didnt consult with this coaching staff prior to making his decision? Clearly a 6th yr senior gives you a better shot at win here and now.

But with a class inked, no championship at stake, his decision is absolutely best for him and his team's future. Nico is still a TF. He didnt get much if any garbage time.

The coaching staff was very loyal to Joe. And Joe to them. Which goes back to my very first point. Do you not think Joe soight counsel from this coaching staff?

If Joe stayed, he'd play. The whole game, period. But he didnt.

Mutual agreement between Joe and CJH most definitely...

 

[peaygolf]

I do hope our fans set realistic expectations for Nico in this game. Feels unlikely though. It’s his first start and it’s against a true Top 5 defense. It’s going to be tough sledding due to opt outs and injuries as well. If he doesn’t throw for 250+ I hope our fans don’t immediately turn on him as a bust.

Good luck with that...............

 

[SweetasSoda]

This is an enemy commentator (UGA), but he probably brings some of the best film and player evals of any YouTube person in the space. IMO. At 1:21 he talks about the stakes of the UT QB play in our bowl. It is brief snip, but worth a listen. His stance is this may be a harder freshman start than Bama or UGA due to the expertly disguised zone coverage Iowa runs. He says if Nico plays anything other than trash, he'll be calling him potentially the dude. He's had our number in recent years both positive and our negatives, so this is high praise, but also a warning in case Nico has a rough go.

He also made a wise case on why Milton would want no part in facing a stout NFL style defense prior to likely being the talk of the combine.

Could we make fans watch Peyton’s first few games?

 

[DD4ME]

Mutual agreement between Joe and CJH most definitely...

Mutual agreement between Joe and his agent IMO. He had everything to lose in this game and nothing to gain.

 

[DD4ME]

Careful. We will be missing our star back/s, some key linemen, and starting a true freshman. To say this is some cake walk dismisses more than is warranted.

 

[peaygolf]

Could we make fans watch Peyton’s first few games?

I remember many wanted Stewart..................

 

[gordonr24]

As bad as the FF is...Facebook comment sections take the cake

On a post about Jaylen and Jabari opting out, all you see are people wanting to take their VFL cards

That would be the Vol calls portion of the fanbase.

 

[turdherder11]

Nico throws for 300+ 3 tds. Iowa hasn't seen a fast pace offense like ours all season.

 

[volbeast33]

Apparently our O-Line is still makeshift as well. Both Dayne Davis and Jackson Lampley projected to start.

Not ideal against a top 10 defense.

WGWTFA

 

[SN-A-C Orange]

Mods to the rescue. Can you move the Lane Train discussion out to its own thread or just delete all the entries ... whichever floats your boat????

 

[drvenner]

Hats off to Joe. He stuck it out, was a great teammate, and continues to be to allow Nico to prepare for next year. He’s been an excellent leader and VFL.

Completely agree. He is as dedicated and committed to this program as anyone who has ever been through here.
He also won us some football games while he was at it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Cool, but how did he get music to play out of his tailfeathers?

 

[MemphisVol3]

Iowa has a good defense but if you can score like 14-17 on them that’s prob gonna do it. That’s one dogsh*t offense they have. And of course their defensive numbers were inflated bc they played people like Rutgers, Illinois, Nebraska and Northwestern all yr.

Their defense contained Michigan pretty well considering they have 0 offense.

 

[volbeast33]

The run game and defense won 8 for us.
Joe lost 2

He could be more efficient but we could have had much worse at the position… not getting any credit is ridiculous.