Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

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kamoshika said:
Statistically, Missouri State was mediocre/average defensively in Harper’s last 3 years there:

2016-17
Scoring defense: 163rd nationally
FG% defense: 208th
Turnovers forced: 214th

2017-18
SD: 132nd
FGD: 252nd
TF: 170th

2018-19
SD: 138th
FGD: 148th
TF: 112th

We've had 2 seasons under Harper with very good 3-pt FG% defense:
2019-20: 42nd (28.5%)
2020-21: 167th (31.3%)
2021-22: 47th (27.9%)
2022-23: 167th (31.0%)
2023-24: 334th (37.4%)
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There you go muddying up the discussion with your facts.

Her offense at Missouri State was nothing to write home about either...
 
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kamoshika said:
Statistically, Missouri State was mediocre/average defensively in Harper’s last 3 years there:

2016-17
Scoring defense: 163rd nationally
FG% defense: 208th
Turnovers forced: 214th

2017-18
SD: 132nd
FGD: 252nd
TF: 170th

2018-19
SD: 138th
FGD: 148th
TF: 112th

We've had 2 seasons under Harper with very good 3-pt FG% defense:
2019-20: 42nd (28.5%)
2020-21: 167th (31.3%)
2021-22: 47th (27.9%)
2022-23: 167th (31.0%)
2023-24: 334th (37.4%)
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Thanks for the stats breakdowns.
 
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pasadenavol said:
What I don't understand is how a former point guard who played for Pat Summit and won 3 NCs can't teach her players ball control and the value of each possession. Last night's 11 t.o.s was one of the fewest of the season, yet they still lost by 11. Just dribble down the court make 1-2 passes and jack up a three.

On a brighter note, Striplin was an absolute STUD last night. Without her, this would've been a 25+ point loss Give credit where due...she deserves recognition while everyone is piling on the coaching staff.
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I can remember a couple of years ago
Coach Jumper predicted Strip would turn
Into a fine basketball player.
 
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One thing for sure Danny White is not perfect he let lady soccer coach leave to Florida state and he wins a championship and icing on the cake . Fromer lady Vols Huff and Rain go with said coach. Tayler Huff scores in championship game and gets all American honorees this season.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
One thing for sure Danny White is not perfect he let lady soccer coach leave to Florida state and he wins a championship and icing on the cake . Fromer lady Vols Huff and Rain go with said coach. Tayler Huff scores in championship game and gets all American honorees this season.
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Or it could be FSU is a better soccer program and coach chose to leave. Not sure that has anything to do with Danny White. And we know he’s not perfect, he extended CKH last year.
 
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Majors said:
Or it could be FSU is a better soccer program and coach chose to leave. Not sure that has anything to do with Danny White. And we know he’s not perfect, he extended CKH last year.
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They never offer more money to keep Peniskky . A fromer lady Taylor Huff score the first goal in title game. Peniskky won some coach of the year awards . Peniskky lead Maryland to the # one overall seed NCAA tournament and national coach of the year 2010 and was national coach of the year at Florida state. He lead Tennessee to deepest run in thenNCAA tournament. Not looking for a long debate. Kristian built it , but Florida state soccer is Brain Peniskky's program now Democrat Tallahassee in said paper they only had nine non portal players and Peniskky himself brought in some freshmen talent. Four of the key Florida state keY players he brought in. Champship run they won with more of Peniskky players thanthe onEs that were there. 500,000 is top money in soccer they Danny White Should have offered. May not made a difference but 500,000 would not broke the bank at UT.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
They never offer more money to keep Peniskky . A fromer lady Taylor Huff score the first goal in title game. Peniskky won some coach of the year awards . Peniskky lead Maryland to the # one overall seed NCAA tournament and national coach of the year 2010 and was national coach of the year at Florida state. He lead Tennessee to deepest run in thenNCAA tournament. Not looking for a long debate. Kristian built it , but Florida state soccer is Brain Peniskky's program now Democrat Tallahassee in said paper they only had nine non portal players and Peniskky himself brought in some freshmen talent. Four of the key Florida state keY players he brought in. Champship run they won with more of Peniskky players thanthe onEs that were there. 500,000 is top money in soccer they Danny White Should have offered. May not made a difference but 500,000 would not broke the bank at UT.
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Are you the agent representing coach? If not how do you know they didn’t offer more money?
 
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Majors said:
Are you the agent representing coach? If not how do you know they didn’t offer more money?
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Just not a public offer. Just answered your post about Florida state soccer being a better program which they now won four champship. The newspaper article I refer to gives credit for Peniskky's work. It's clear Peniskky did not used someone else players to win.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
One thing for sure Danny White is not perfect he let lady soccer coach leave to Florida state and he wins a championship and icing on the cake . Fromer lady Vols Huff and Rain go with said coach. Tayler Huff scores in championship game and gets all American honorees this season.
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There was nothing he could’ve done to keep Pensky from leaving. FSU is the best job in the country.
 
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Majors said:
Or it could be FSU is a better soccer program and coach chose to leave. Not sure that has anything to do with Danny White. And we know he’s not perfect, he extended CKH last year.
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Back on subject of lady Vols basketball could see Kellie could see extra year on Kellie contract with a sweet sixteen run this year.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Back on subject of lady Vols basketball could see Kellie could see extra year on Kellie contract with a sweet sixteen run this year.
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This team getting to the second weekend would be a major upset. Right now they’re fighting an uphill battle just to get in the tournament.
 
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So what do you think? Laziness, incompetency, or both?

I believe it is simply "attitude".
In todays world you have to get the players attention. You have to be disciplined and have structure. The patients cant be in charge of the Asylum! CPS trash can drills are needed or at the very least the mindset of doing it!
5 Star Young Ladys are not going to come to UT with the present staff. You have to have a communicator to get ones here that are willing to work and grind, start winning a get the program on track................pretty much the path South Carolina took with Staley.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Back on subject of lady Vols basketball could see Kellie could see extra year on Kellie contract with a sweet sixteen run this year.
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At least see a second round NCAA tournament game in this team future. But time will tell. No reason why they don't win one NCAA tournament game with JACKSON back around SEC season.
 
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LVsinceJV said:
If we go into the tournament with a low seed, the chances of us reaching the sweet sixteen aren't good
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For sure. Our margin for error is tiny, and we've been known to error. No more bad losses, and we probably have to pick up a "good win" along the way to avoid being early round fodder on a high seed's court. Fun times!
 
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LVsinceJV said:
If we go into the tournament with a low seed, the chances of us reaching the sweet sixteen aren't good
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Six seed of lower means Vols face three seed of higher which puts odds 90% or better Tennessee exit round two if they play said game. if Tennessee seed Five seed depending on the match Tennessee has more than 50% chance of losing 4 vs 5 seed game.
 
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glv98 said:
For sure. Our margin for error is tiny, and we've been known to error. No more bad losses, and we probably have to pick up a "good win" along the way to avoid being early round fodder on a high seed's court. Fun times!
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Six seed or lower than likely upset if they do. Tennessee needs a third place finish in SEC season and some good ten plus wins over teams behind them.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
At least see a second round NCAA tournament game in this team future. But time will tell. No reason why they don't win one NCAA tournament game with JACKSON back around SEC season.
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Even if RJ gets back, there’s no guarantee that she will be able to go the distance in any game. Just have to wait and see.
 
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