Recruiting Football Talk VII

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screenthis said:
Let's not talk about relaxing. I've spent the last week cleaning out the mother in law's hoarder house.Roach dust and rat droppings everywhere.
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I watch the show about that hoarding ...craziness on the things people keep...
The show my 600 pound life is interesting also..I watch stuff like this when no sports on...

But my two favorite reality shows of all time...
1. Keeping up with the Kardashians..
2. Honey Boo Boo ...lol
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
If he can't win without having more talent it's a terrible look.
What's he going to do against OH St, UGA, Oregon etc.... teams that are in the top 5 and will only stay there recruiting wise? He needs to prove he can beat teams better than his.
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He proved that last year dude lol clearly handcuffed by qb this year
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Is it, though? Is it a very bad look for Bama or OK St? Georgia?

Last year was great. Anyone who thinks Heupel should consistently produce far and beyond of the talent he has year in and out is delusional.
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Bama only loss is a top 10 team, UGA is undefeated, OK St year since they've lost to a crap school.
You need to be able to win with equal talent. It's a problem that he cant.
 
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@jave36, are you saying that things are so corrupt they will turn out as you are saying? Or that it would be justified?

Do you think Bama is better than GA, for example? Or "Bama officials" will make sure it happens?

Do you really think Texas shouldn't go over Bama with the head to head win at Tuscaloosa?

Why shouldn't Oregon or Washington go ahead of Bama? Or what is Bama's claim over any other one-loss team, when it's pretty clear Bama won two games by official interference and only beat a team coming off a big loss to NMSU yesterday due to coaching malpractice of rushing 3 on the last play. I think Bama is lucky not to have 4 losses right now (counting corruption alongside Auburn incompetence as "luck").

My concern is that something happen at the last minute to reward Birmingham for its manipulations. If Bama were to win, I would be fine with any team presently in the top 8 going over Georgia. Let Kirby taste Birmingham's machinations. And see how he likes it. Maybe that would help. Let four conference champions play. Anything but an unworthy Bama. It reeks of corruption.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
TN out recruits both of them, we had more talent. Heup got out coached in both those games.
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We did not have more talent than Pitt that year. They had a first round quarterback and the best reciever in the country. Ole miss was significantly better that year and had a 10 win season. If you can’t see that then you are truly blind and ignorant.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
If he can't win without having more talent it's a terrible look.
What's he going to do against OH St, UGA, Oregon etc.... teams that are in the top 5 and will only stay there recruiting wise? He needs to prove he can beat teams better than his.
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He proved that last year.
 
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Volfan39 said:
We did not have more talent than Pitt that year. They had a first round quarterback and the best reciever in the country. Ole miss was significantly better that year and had a 10 win season. If you can’t see that then you are truly blind and ignorant.
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Lmaoooooo Pickett isn't good.

OM doesn't recruit close to us. They aren't good.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
If he can't win without having more talent it's a terrible look.
What's he going to do against OH St, UGA, Oregon etc.... teams that are in the top 5 and will only stay there recruiting wise? He needs to prove he can beat teams better than his.
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Recruiting is part of the formula. I’m also guessing he had a positive coach effect in 2022. It actually shows that this year was on par.
 
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Orange. said:
@jave36, are you saying that things are so corrupt they will turn out as you are saying? Or that it would be justified?

Do you think Bama is better than GA, for example? Or "Bama officials" will make sure it happens?

Do you really think Texas shouldn't go over Bama with the head to head win at Tuscaloosa?

Why shouldn't Oregon or Washington go ahead of Bama? Or what is Bama's claim over even a one-loss Ohio St, when it's pretty clear Bama won two games by official interference and only beat a team coming off a big loss to NMSU yesterday due to coaching malpractice of rushing 3.

My concern is that something happen to reward Birmingham for its manipulations. If Bama were to win, I would be fine with any team presently in the top 8 to go over Georgia. Let Kirby taste Birmingham's machinations.
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Bama is playing better than UGA right now. They won't need help from officials (but they might get some anyway).

Washington is in if they win, but I don't think they win.

I personally think Texas should be in over Bama, but it wouldn't be an egregious example of corruption of the committee put in Bama over Texas if Bama beats UGA.

Ohio state beat nobody.

This is a subjective issue, there is no black and white correct answer. There is a case to be made for 1 loss UGA, Oregon, Texas, Bama, Ohio State. Only 3 of those can get in (assuming Michigan wins). Gets even more complicated if fsu finds a way to win the acc title game. This is why there should be a larger playoff. There is no perfect answer with a 4team playoff.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
TN out recruits both of them, we had more talent. Heup got out coached in both those games.
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Are you ignoring the fact Pitt had a Heisman finalist QB and a Biletnikoff winning WR who won 10 games and a NY6 bowl game in game 2 of his tenure? The same Ole Miss team that won 10 games and played in a NY6 bowl game? Both games decided on the final play also. Two bad examples by you my guy.
 
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Blake25p said:
Are you ignoring the fact Pitt had a Heisman finalist QB and a Biletnikoff winning WR who won 10 games and a NY6 bowl game in game 2 of his tenure? The same Ole Miss team that won 10 games and played in a NY6 bowl game? Both games decided on the final play also. Two bad examples by you my guy.
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He's also ignoring the roster CJH had. If he's done any research at all, he looked at previous years' recruiting rankings without taking into account the attrition UT had. So, I'd bet anything he's not taking into account actual rosters.
 
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Blake25p said:
Are you ignoring the fact Pitt had a Heisman finalist QB and a Biletnikoff winning WR who won 10 games and a NY6 bowl game in game 2 of his tenure? The same Ole Miss team that won 10 games and played in a NY6 bowl game? Both games decided on the final play also. Two bad examples by you my guy.
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Pickett isn't good, I've stood on that hill since before that game.

OM stymied this vaunted Heupel offense all night.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Recruiting is part of the formula. I’m also guessing he had a positive coach effect in 2022. It actually shows that this year was on par.
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My point is you're not going to be more talented than the teams you're facing for a title. You have to be able to coach your way to win. It's am extremely poor look on these coaches can't do that.
 
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