Cooper Mays possibly out for Florida

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Vfl2407 said:
That is the best case scenario.
I certainly hope you are correct.
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On the 247 podcast the other day, they mentioned that the initial concern with Mays being out was not blocking ability or even getting the tempo going, but with snapping. That was apparently cleaned up in the 2nd scrimmage. It also sounds like Nichols was the main culprit.

So it sounds to me like, from a blocking/assignment standpoint and in terms of keeping the fast tempo going, Lane is doing well. It may have taken him some time to get used to snapping, but it sounds like he’s settled in there as well. I’m not as worried about this I was was a couple of weeks ago.

I’ve thought for awhile that Lane is solid, but not spectacular. He’s a veteran who knows assignment football. I’ve noticed him being in on some really well blocked plays (Evans’ long run against Missouri in 2021 comes to mind). I think he’s a guy they have trust in. But if he gets hurt before Mays comes back, bad news.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
On the 247 podcast the other day, they mentioned that the initial concern with Mays being out was not blocking ability or even getting the tempo going, but with snapping. That was apparently cleaned up in the 2nd scrimmage. It also sounds like Nichols was the main culprit.

So it sounds to me like, from a blocking/assignment standpoint and in terms of keeping the fast tempo going, Lane is doing well. It may have taken him some time to get used to snapping, but it sounds like he’s settled in there as well. I’m not as worried about this I was was a couple of weeks ago.

I’ve thought for awhile that Lane is solid, but not spectacular. He’s a veteran who knows assignment football. I’ve noticed him being in on some really well blocked plays (Evans’ long run against Missouri in 2021 comes to mind). I think he’s a guy they have trust in. But if he gets hurt before Mays comes back, bad news.
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Another concern I have is how much of the line calls came from Mays? Can Lane/Nichols get the calls right and go quickly enough that our offense keeps the pressure on the defenses with our pace? Things have to slow down with Mays out. Will that negate our effectiveness? If so, how much? I'm always concerned about the UF game even when we're full strength. Without Mays, that game looks ominous.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Another concern I have is how much of the line calls came from Mays? Can Lane/Nichols get the calls right and go quickly enough that our offense keeps the pressure on the defenses with our pace? Things have to slow down with Mays out. Will that negate our effectiveness? If so, how much? I'm always concerned about the UF game even when we're full strength. Without Mays, that game looks ominous.
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That was part of what I meant I referenced tempo. According to the 247 guys, the coaches like where Lane is mentally. None of that stuff should be a concern. Their concern was snapping, which has apparently been cleaned up.

Also, it’s not Lane/Nichols. Nichols has dropped out of the Center competition. He is only practicing at Guard in Tackle now. Apparently, the back up to Lane at center would be Dayne Davis.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
That was part of what I meant I referenced tempo. According to the 247 guys, the coaches like where Lane is mentally. None of that stuff should be a concern. Their concern was snapping, which has apparently been cleaned up.

Also, it’s not Lane/Nichols. Nichols has dropped out of the Center competition. He is only practicing at Guard in Tackle now. Apparently, the back up to Lane at center would be Dayne Davis.
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Davis? He's a tackle. Whew. We must be really thin if we have to go that route. Hope the youngsters develop quickly. Gotta think we hit the portal hard at OL this next time around.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Hernia surgery sucks. After my first one they didn't want me to pick up a gallon of milk which is ridiculous for a man my size. They didn't want me to swim, bike, or anything except walk.

Cooper might be working some but not much because tearing the thing completely ends his year.
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Exactly. And the very reason I said it will take a while; once healed; to get into Football shape. It would be like taking a guy from his desk job and sending him to the sawmill.
 
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Volfansince1980 said:
He’s also tight with the Mays family. So if you want to believe someone with no sources over someone with multiple sources, carry on
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I just listened to this mornings (Sunday) Big Orange Sunday show with Coach Doug Mathews.
about 3 minutes in, after updating his good friend Phil Fulmers health (who he said is doing well), Mathews talked about Cooper. He said that Mays will not play the first three games and will probably miss more than that.
He called it a “leg injury”. No mention of a hernia.
He still feels ok about the oline. Thinks Davis may start over Lane at Center.
Overall, he’s very bullish On this team. Says kicking Game will be a weapon in all phases.
Thinks secondary will be much improved.

Coach Doug Mathews
 
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Vfl2407 said:
I just listened to this mornings (Sunday) Big Orange Sunday show with Coach Doug Mathews.
about 3 minutes in, after updating his good friend Phil Fulmers health (who he said is doing well), Mathews talked about Cooper. He said that Mays will not play the first three games and will probably miss more than that.
He called it a “leg injury”. No mention of a hernia.
He still feels ok about the oline. Thinks Davis may start over Lane at Center.
Overall, he’s very bullish On this team. Says kicking Game will be a weapon in all phases.
Thinks secondary will be much improved.

Coach Doug Mathews
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Exact quote was he won’t play the first two. Maybe not Florida and possibly beyond.

They are purposely veiling that Florida game in concern to this injury.
 
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These aren't the skoal can days where you have 5 people that can actually play football. Next man up !
 
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Volfanstucknga said:
Addison Nichols step right up! I believe he will be a baller. 247 Composite 4* .9422, #6 IOL in the country. Offers from Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, USC, Bama, Clemson, Florida State, LSU, and Michigan. That kid has talent! Knock the rust off the first two games, and let em' eat some Gator!!
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Think Ollie starts but I am a big fan of nichols and hope he ends up eventually being a dependable starter
 
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Interesting that we hear all summer from the “media” that the most “valuable” player outside of Milton was Cooper Mays. Now he’s out all camp, etc.

Did these people know something from the start? I’m beginning to think so. Very ironic
 
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CAVPUT said:
Another concern I have is how much of the line calls came from Mays? Can Lane/Nichols get the calls right and go quickly enough that our offense keeps the pressure on the defenses with our pace? Things have to slow down with Mays out. Will that negate our effectiveness? If so, how much? I'm always concerned about the UF game even when we're full strength. Without Mays, that game looks ominous.
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Not my favorite source, but Dave Hooker had an article with the following quotes.........
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According to Tennessee offensive coordinator Joey Halzle, Mays missing some preseason practices hasn’t slowed the Vols down at all.

“No issues with that,” Halzle said flatly during Tennessee’s most recent press conference on Thursday. “That’s how we play, and everybody knows how we play. We play one type of way when we take the field. We are ready to roll.”

Senior Ollie Lane, who was playing left guard before Mays went down, has been the player that has primarily filled in for Mays at center. Head coach Josh Heupel said the new unit has played well earlier this week as the Vols were winding down preseason camp. Halzle echoed that sentiment.

“Feel really good about how the offensive line is looking,” he said. “There are guys that can rotate in and play a bunch of spots, and that’s what’s good about the guys we have is that guys can go in and out. We have guys that can play all three positions. It’s really helpful having that kind of utilization with the guys up front. I feel really good about the five guys we are going to roll out there with in a couple of weeks. I feel like we can put a good product on the field with them.
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OL is my primary concern for this year...if that is shored up and improved, then will feel even better.
 
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Volfan39 said:
Basillo literally said on the radio yesterday that Cooper would be back for Florida. Come on man your better than to trust a dude named orange throat over all of the other insiders in the program
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i believe orange throat has a pretty good idea of what's going on in the program. he's definitely part of the program and he's pretty consistent/.
 
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joevols89 said:
And you think the Mays family is going to want AP putting out private health information?
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I doubt they want anyone putting out too much information including Doug Matthews or the guy with a weird handle quoted on the Basillo show. How in the world would they know Mays medical situation if the family wanted to keep it close to the vest? Price wouldn't have even made the comment that he could play in the AP game and that they are saving him from Florida if the parents didn't want him to do. But he did, which tells me a lot of you would rather freak out over unsubstantiated rumors from people outside of the families and universities circle instead of taking people in the know at face value.
 
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